Boycotting Israeli products/services

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I’m trying my best to support the boycott. For those doing the same - what products/services are you using instead?

The hardest one for me has been giving up on going to Disney Paris next year. I had planned it as a joint birthday present, kids will be the perfect age. But I can’t stand in Disney with my kids knowing they support a regime killing kids.

Any good alternatives to Disney, or any other brand on the list?

The kibbutz residents (some of them left-wing 'peaceniks' who tried to forge links with Gazans by working as volunteers to drive them to Israeli hospitals, etc.) and music festival youngsters raped, murdered or abducted in October weren’t holding weapons either.

War is a terrible thing. People should think carefully, before starting one, what the effect will be on their civilian population, especially those who happen to be near the places where terrorists shelter and abducted civilians are being held (in civilian Palestinian homes).

But that's where you are wrong. They don't occur 'sometimes' the occurrence of such events is more often than not, as is the inaction of the IDF to stop them from happening. This has been ongoing for decades. You think the Palestinians should just lie back and watch their villages burn? As the settlers so often like to chant 'may your village burn' it's not just a chant though, it's a reality for them.
I believe the best chance for peace is for the Palestinians to have their own state.

Yes. Try telling Hamas that. They aren’t interested in a two-state solution - they want the whole area, "from the river to the sea".

Fine. As long as they are willing to let the Israelis live in peace in their own state too. But they aren’t.

And if and when the Palestinians have their own state, I do see many of the surrounding countries forging better ties, both in terms of security and economical ties with Israel.
Look at how the other Arab countries helped to defend Israel when Iran attacked? You think they don't want an end to all this too? But it won't happen, not until the Palestinians have their own fair state, dignity and the right of self-determination on their own rightful land.

Hamas have demonstrated that they cannot be left in power. They carried out a major terrorist attack and have contributed significantly to the lack of progress towards a peaceful solution. The only things people should be telling their leadership are "welcome to The Hague" and "here is your legal representative".

That doesn't mean occupation, horrendous civilian casualties, potential war crimes and genocidal rhetoric are acceptable. It's possible to condemn both Hamas and the Israeli government. Both have engaged in horrendous practices, while the innocent people in Palestine and Israel suffer.

Most reasonable people believe in a 2 state solution with a state for Palestinians. That would not make the slightest difference to the fundamental problem in the Middle East which is the desire of many, individuals and states, who do not recognise the legitimacy of Israel, to destroy Israel. That is what Netanyahu is saying in the statement quoted above, which remains fundamentally true despite various rounds of the conflict in recent yeas (or the record I think the settlers should withdraw from the WB). Obviously certain posters are ignoring this and pretending they don't understand. You think setting up a Palestinian state would stop Hamas the Houthis and Iran wanting to destroy Israel?

Many Palestinians would be happy with that. There would be a long healing process on both sides, as there's a lot of trauma, but having borders that respected and being freed from occupation and blockade would go a long way towards that.

And who decides what is "rightful"?

The world is full of countries where land has changed ownership. How far back in time do we go?

@SharonEllis Netanyahu isn't just referring to the houthis (which BTW are not the actual government of Yemen) and Iran, he is talking about all Arab countries which is not true. Amongst the Arab countries the big player is Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia has shown a willingness to forge ties with Israel on the condition of a path taken to form a Palestinian state. Many other Arab countries will most likely follow on the same condition. Netanyahu has done everything in his power to prevent this from happening, some would say even through secretly allowing suitcases of cash over the border to Hamas with the knowledge that having Hamas in power will decrease the chances of there being a Palestinian state.

@Buntycat And who decides what is "rightful"?

The 1967 borders would likely be a good starting point. There would obviously have to be compromises made on both sides for it to work.

@Scirocco how do you know most Palestinians have never picked up a weapon? Please provide evidence of this - rather than anecdotal.

@Dulra right back you. Your comment is juvenile and petty .

The difference is that I don't personally attack posters when I disagree with them.

@SharonEllis despite their harsh criticism for the way Israel has conducted the war and oppression of the Palestinians, Jordan, the UAE and Saudi Arabia helped in repelling Iran's attack against Israel. I mean if they really wanted to see Israel's destruction as posters on here seem to suggest, then it would have been the perfect time to sit back and do nothing.

Read up about how any peace activists in Gaza get treated by Israel.

Hamas doesn’t treat peace activists well either. I know that there are brave and commendable peace activists in both Israel and Gaza, indeed one of the most heartbreaking things about Oct 7 was that so many of the victims worked for peace and good relationships with their neighbours.

Here is a short article about Saudi Arabia continuing normalisation talks with the US and Israel which is quite optimistic despite the effects of Oct 7 on the process https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/saudi-israeli-normalization-persists-amid-gaza-war/

Edit. This is not the comment I wanted to respond to

Do you have proof that demonstrates the opposite?

Funny. You just attack me for asking you a question.

Yes if you can't beat them...

https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/ethicalcampaigns/boycotts

For people who are interested in finding ethical alternatives to products they're wanting to boycott, or who are considering whether or not they want to boycott something, this website can be a useful resource. It provides information about a range of boycott targets, including the reasons given for boycotts, so people can use it as a starting point for making decisions about whether they want to boycott something. It also provides lists of alternative products and services, so people can factor that into decision-making.

The website is more of a database rather than a boycott leader, so inclusion on the site just means there is a boycott, rather than indicating any endorsement by the site.

I don't think there are any Hamas supporters on this thread.

@Scirocco got any evidence for that?

Quote your sources.