Rafah bombings (Edited by Mumsnet)

[TwilightSkies]

Where the hell are all the Palestinians meant to go now?
They were TOLD to go to Rafah, that Rafah was a safe place.
It’s just open extermination at this point.

Thousands of refugees from Rafah have been pouring into Deir-al-Balah north of Khan Younis severely stretching the water supply there

To be honest … they seem to be spreading with or without ceasefires anyway! If Israel’s aim is to get rid of Hamas … they’re not doing a good job at it

NI, Middle East (Iraq?) and Afghanistan were all botch jobs by the U.K., or US and coalition by military standards anyway. Odd the author doesn’t realise this, but if he was a “senior member” in NI some 30-50yrs ago he likely retired in the early 2000s before military experts pointed out the futility and counter-productivity of our military actions in those conflict zones.

He’s probably in his 90s and written from whispering pines care home…unaware his last century heroism had to be cleaned up with diplomatic and political solutions as military force didn’t help and in many cases only delayed the inevitable.

What you mean all the wars, terrorist attacks, hijacking of passenger planes, electing a terrorist government, constant rocket bombardments, building tunnels to harbour munitions under schools, hospitals and residential areas, children trained as would be martyrs in terrorist summer camps, a fundamentalist ideology where killing Jews is something to be celebrated etc etc.

Remember the recording of the phone call where the guy was excitedly telling his mother how many Jews he’d killed which she congratulated him on and the civilians spitting on the broken, naked dead body of Shani Louk being paraded on the back of a truck?

Not to mention causing civil wars and unrest in neighbouring countries that took them in.

Yeah, they really tried that.

Perhaps they need to try actual peace.

You are right. Just kill everyone in Gaza and let settlers take over. You never know, that unborn child might have grown up to be Hamas. We can't take the risk, now can we?

You’re cherry picking when they weren’t being peaceful.
Have you heard of the March of Great Return? The peaceful protests against the Gaza blockade in 2008/9 where IDF snipers deliberately targeted and shot around 600 Palestinian CHILDREN? The UN wrote a report on it condemning the shootings as war crimes.

That is one example, I think you need to read the full version of the history of the area. You have obviously been fed a heavily edited version.

Not to mention causing civil wars and unrest in neighbouring countries that took them in.

Huh, they didn’t cause the civil war in Lebanon, but Ariel Sharon saw an opportunity to go into Lebanon and massacre refugee camps of Palestinians in Lebanon. But, yeah they caused “unrest” by trying to defend themselves.

https://thejerusalemfund.org/2023/09/sabra-and-shatila-massacre-four-decades-of-unforgotten-tragedy/

Agreed. The Israeli Govt have no choice if they want to save their state from another Holocaust. Sad but true.

The writer (singular) served in NI,

I wouldn't listen to the opinion of any British army personnel that served in NI.

If Israel keep going the way they are going they will never achieve peace with their neighbours. Oppression is not a way to achieve peace

Egypt= Peace
Lebanon=Iran proxy
Gaza= Iran proxy
Saudi Arabia =Peace
Yemen=Destroyed drones attacking Israel
Syria=Destroyed drones attacking Israel

Gaza = occupied territory (oppressed)
West Bank = occupied territory (oppressed)

No idea what game your playing but that's my contribution

No game - Israel has peace with the neighbours that are not controlled by Iran so will never be resolved.

West Bank needs better handling by Israel and Gaza is a state controlled by a terrorist organisation who voted for them and even now are not demanding Hamas go.

Sad and worrying development

Main maternity hospital in Rafah stops admitting patients

The main maternity hospital in Rafah has stopped admitting patients, the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) has told Reuters.

The UNFPA said Al-Helal Al-Emairati Maternity Hospital had been handling some 85 births each day out of a total of 180 births in Gaza prior to an escalation of fighting between Hamas and Israeli troops on Rafah’s outskirts.

You could at least get the dates right for a start. Are you referring to 2018/19?

They weren’t exactly peaceful protests were they with Hamas encouraging civilians to break down the border fences and infiltrate Israel, throwing Molotov cocktails and burning tyres and kites over the fence. A large proportion of those killed were Hamas operatives.

You are being deliberately misleading with your comment that IDF deliberately targeted and shot 600 children and you well know it.

Apparently 49 were killed over the course of a year sadly but what kind of parent would take children (were these toddlers and young children?) to protests where Molotov cocktails and burning tyres were being thrown and border fences were trying to be breached in deliberately planned clashes with armed soldiers putting their very safety at great risk?

Save your propaganda for someone else hun.

You are the one feeding the heavily edited version.

There is fault on both sides but I’m sorry, the Palestinians are not helping themselves, and more importantly, their poor children!

Oppression is not a way to achieve peace
I was quite clear what neighbours I was talking about with them statement

West Bank needs better handling by Israel
What does this mean?

Gaza is a state controlled by a terrorist organisation who voted for them and even now are not demanding Hamas go.
Gaza is an occupied territory. Hamas were elected there nearly 20 years ago and there hasn't been an election since. Gaza has been occupied and oppressed by Israel long before Hamas and there will never be peace if this continues.

About 200 Palestinians leaving Rafah each hour, UNRWA

“The displacement is ongoing and people are leaving towards Khan Younis and the Middle Areas,” said UNRWA communications director Juliette Touma.

“It’s not possible to give a total number of people displaced at the moment given how fluid the situation is,” she added.

A senior UNRWA official told US broadcaster CNN that approximately 50,000 people had left Rafah since Monday.

Had a really good look at the pics online of the 'evacuating' people

Lots and lots of young children and women but also some older boys/men of 'fighting age' particularly in photos of Deir-al-Balah for some reason. Plus interviews with 'fathers' online

So seems like boys and men look to be able to leave Rafah - hopefully

I don't know if anyone has seen on the other thread but the US have halted some of their weapons transfer to Israel because of concerns of how they will be used in Rafah.
So clearly they have serious concerns as it is the first time they have done so.
But not concerned enough to do more to stop it.

Yep @Scirocco posted about it here first thing this morning but it all got a bit lost in the epic derailment

Shame really

@Parkingt111

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@Efacsen Main maternity hospital in Rafah stops admitting patients

this Is really worrying! Where will they give birth? I can't imagine the worry of these families right now, especially at what should be a joyful occasion

This despicable Israeli official has a message for the US

Israeli MK and Likud Official Tali Gottlieb have a message to the US:

“The US is threatening not to give us precise missiles . Oh yeah? Well, I got news for the US. We have imprecise missiles. I’ll use it. I’ll just collapse ten [in Gaza]. Ten buildings. That’s what I’ll do”

I should add a warning her words are vile

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6t1TgMtmEf/?igsh=MTloaHI1Y3N2bW00Zw==

Agree. It doesn't really bear thinking about giving birth without any medical attention - or even in a clean place - in the chaos and panic of Rafah

These poor poor women and their babies

The bombing is continuing in Rafah with children sustaining severe injuries.

Trigger Warning
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6t4rcas6ya/?igsh=MWd0ajljamQ5NjE5cA==