Killing of 5 Foreign Aid Workers from the World Central Kitchen

[cherryjamontoast]

I've just seen on social media graphic videos of 5 dead aid workers from Australia, Austrian and British. The WCK are the people responsible for the ships coming into Gaza at the Jetty to distribute food. This was the second ship that departed from Cyprus a few days ago. Once arriving at the jetty they had to distribute the food. They were targeted in an armoured vehicle in Deir el Balah by the IDF. Its now being pick up by the press.Very sad.

Pages ago on this thread it was noted that another WFC worker had previously been injured in an earlier IDF attack

Didn't realise that it was only 15 minutes earlier

https://twitter.com/WCKitchen/status/1778185679903859007?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778185679903859007%7Ctwgr%5E60329058edb110d5f1a498ecb11bad1b85669bd8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aljazeera.com%2Fnews%2Fliveblog%2F2024%2F4%2F11%2Fisraels-war-on-gaza-live-hamas-says-netanyahu-hindering-ceasefire-chances

I read about it but I thought it had been in the weekend before the attack.

i believe motaz knew him and reported about him on the day ,

He’s Palestinian so I guess we won’t hear as much from international governments how angry they’re about this attack. In fact , has any government done anything about citizens from their countries being killed ?

Also thought it had been days earlier - not much of a 'de-conflicted zone' tho' maybe it was only the road south that was being described in this way

Top IDF commander in aid strike wanted to block humanitarian supplies into GazaInvestigation shows officer signed a letter to Israel’s War Cabinet demanding a ‘siege’ of Gaza City

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/terror-and-security/israel-hamas-war-gaza-idf-aid-strike-world-central-kitchen/

@EasterIssland I don't know, but I'm fairly disgusted the UK just accepts the killing of our own citizens, especially as they served the country - ex forces I think? But then again, I've often heard it said the UK does very little to support veterans.

@Scirocco
@EasterIssland

So firstly you have deliberately misinterpreted this post. If you read the actual note and look past the picture of a box of chocolates It is not a congratulatory message but a sympathy message acknowledging that in war mistakes are made. Portraying it as a congratulations is a weak attempt at misinformation.

Secondly posting twitter links with strong anti semetic replies in them is completely unacceptable, do you share such views - if so please say so, if not then don't post links to them.

Thirdly you cannot base your argument on deliberate misinformation links from Twitter. Regular news feeds yes, nut job conspiracy theorists on twitter no.

@1dayatatime I didn't post the link. I commented in relation to the information that one of the people allegedly responsible for the deaths of innocent aid workers came home to a present. His alleged victims are coming home in boxes.

In war, mistakes are made. This looks to fall far beyond the scope of a mistake and into negligence at best. He shouldn't be getting boxes of chocolates. He should be getting investigated and potentially charged in relation to the deaths of those innocent people for whose deaths he is allegedly responsible.

@Scirocco

Your exact comment was "They even gave him a prize. "

A"prize" would mean that reason he was given them was a reward for his actions. The reality was that the chocolates were given in sympathy by someone for being criticised and losing his job for making a "mistake in the fog of war" (of course many others would not feel any sympathy and say that he deserved to be fired.

Now I would fully agree with you that his actions do go beyond a "mistake" and looks like he did not follow any of the procedures or checks required before the attack- so yes definitely negligence and yes definitely investigated and yes potentially charged.

However the fact remains that your post was intentionally misleading by stating that he was given a "prize" for his actions when this was definitely not the case.

To me, it really looks like a prize/reward/consolation gift. I don't think people suspected to have made decisions that killed innocent aid workers should get chocolates, whatever label gets put on them.

What are they going to give the families of the dead?

@Scirocco

So a prize would be for being the best at something. A reward would be a thank you or incentive for doing something well. A consolation gift would be an attempt to make someone feel better when they are down about something. This is not labels its definitions.

The chocolates were not given out in any official military capacity, they were given to him by a local politician in sympathy because he that felt in his opinion the officer had bee unfairly treated.

Now to portray this as some form of official prize is intentionally misleading.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree, I'm afraid. I think it really does look like he's been rewarded by someone for actions that allegedly led to the deaths of multiple people. At best, that's the equivalent of gross negligence manslaughter. I think most people would be disgusted if someone suspected of that level of crime was receiving gifts when the people they allegedly killed might not even have been buried yet.

@Scirocco

If you read the note it clearly states that the donor of the chocolates felt (in his opinion) that the officer had been unfairly treated for a mistake made in the fog of war. This was from a local politician that had nothing to do with the military. In no way was this a prize or a reward for the actions the officer took.

Now I agree with you that in my opinion the officer's actions were negligent, he didn't follow procedures and protocols and should be investigated and potentially prosecuted.

t would the same if for example a manager on a building site failed to follow procedures that then led to the deaths of six workers. Should he be fired, investigated and potentially prosecuted for manslaugher then yes. If someone then sends the manager a note stating that he felt that the manager had been unfairly treated and gave him a box of chocolates in sympathy does this mean that the manager has been given a "prize" for the deaths of six workers- no it doesn't.

To portray it as such is intentionally misleading.

I would consider it grossly inappropriate for a person (especially a person in public office)to do such a thing in that scenario, @1dayatatime . People in public office tend to be aware that their actions reflect on that office.

If someone sent a note saying they felt someone was unfairly treated for the relatively minor consequence of being relieved of their employment in the context of an investigation into their actions having allegedly killed multiple people, I'd consider that to be minimising their culpability and expressing support for that person's actions.

If that person sending a note were an official in public office, then, yes, I would consider that to reflect badly on the office held.

I agree with you Scirocco in that a box of chocolates does suggest the politician does not think the soldier was negligent but moreover suggests the politician condoned the actions of the soldier. As a politician- your actions are important.

It is inconsistent to equate the act of killing the aid workers to a being a “mistake” made in the fog of war with also being “negligent.” The two are different. Negligence is knowing you need to take care and you don’t take care. A mistake occurs despite attempting to take appropriate care.

There is of course a third option which should be considered given that the soldier wanted a siege and aid not to reach Palestinians.

Chocolates are associated with celebration, not reprimand. I have never heard of “sympathy chocolates” to a soldier spending 15 minutes deliberately chasing down and killing three vehicles full of innocents.

“mistake made in the fog of war.”

Tbh, there wasn’t really any fog of war in this incident. WCK had told them their movements, their vehicles. The IDF said the soldier knew they were WCK vehicles with aid workers in them when they destroyed them. The only alleged error was the mysterious bag mistaken for a gun in footage not shared….and the decision to kill aid workers to get at one potential gunman they thought might be in one of the vechicles. This isn’t the chaos that is usually called the “fog of war”.

Some of you might have read my comments regarding Jose Andres, wkcs ceo and how he’s not much loved in Spain (where he’s from) as we find him quite fake.

just saw this blog

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/04/i-resigned-from-the-world-central-kitchen-because-it-refused-to-tell-the-truth-about-the-israeli-genocide-in-gaza/

I’m reading this from a spanish journalist.

Israeli TV Channel 12, citing the army, has reported that the Shayetet 13 unit is training to board the ships of the Freedom Flotilla. Shayetet 13 is the unit that entered Al-Shifa hospital and murdered 400 people recently.

i can’t see anything on Twitter from today in English. However I can see comments warning the flotilla

@EasterIssland I am worried about them. I hope they survive and can get aid in.

I hope they stay safe, I also imagine that most of them realise they might not make it back. They really are testing the waters here.

Unit 932

www.instagram.com/reel/C6B8bd2owy-/?igsh=MTVyZXRybWQzMjdqNQ==

These people are murderers. They need to face justice for their crimes and be prevented from continuing to kill.

So blatant.......

Update from @GazaFFlotilla: powerful Western states have sent official delegations to Turkey in order to prevent us from launching our mission to challenge Israel's genocidal blockade. We still intend to sail on April 24 and deliver 5500 tons of aid cargo to Gaza

https://twitter.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1781920910636732476