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Conflict in the Middle East

The Gaza you don’t see

64 replies

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 08:39

A thread to see how Gazans are coping in a war situation. Most of the links have been posted on TikTok within the last two weeks.

Price of a packet of macaroni in Rafah, south Gaza Strip - 13 shekels ($3.60).
Posted by Gaza journalist Ahmed Hisham on his Instagram account, 12 hours ago.
https://twitter.com/imshin/status/1764919176806711409

https://twitter.com/imshin/status/1764919176806711409

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Scirocco · 05/03/2024 10:02

I'm really disappointed that a thread sharing disinformation like this is allowed to remain. And I'm really disappointed that the OP is just continuing to post links despite people pointing out that this is a questionable source at best.

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 10:02

@IClaudine because it is a source of the original Gazan accounts on instagram and TikTok. Please just hide the thread if you don’t want to see it. It seems like you just want a fight.

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ColleenDonaghy · 05/03/2024 10:04

I'm not going to click on dodgy TikToks, but I think it's well known that in aid situations some resources will end in the hands of those who will use them for profit. Based on the posts on this thread, I'm not hearing anything unexpected.

Scirocco · 05/03/2024 10:06

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 10:02

@IClaudine because it is a source of the original Gazan accounts on instagram and TikTok. Please just hide the thread if you don’t want to see it. It seems like you just want a fight.

It's not just about not wanting to see it. Just hiding things and not challenging them is how disinformation spreads. And with disinformation comes manipulation of people's views of important things like giving food to starving people and seeking an end to the dehumanisation, oppression and killing of innocent people.

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 10:07

@Scirocco This is not disinformation, not when you can click onto all the original instagram and TikTok accounts posted by Gazans living in Gaza at this present time. If you do not want to see it please feel free to hide the thread.

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misssunshine4040 · 05/03/2024 10:11

What's the point in the thread? What are you trying to accomplish ?

I think most people are well aware that selling aid supplies will happen in conflict zones where people are on survival mode and thinking only of themselves.

People are not saints no matter their background

IClaudine · 05/03/2024 10:12

Scirocco · 05/03/2024 10:02

I'm really disappointed that a thread sharing disinformation like this is allowed to remain. And I'm really disappointed that the OP is just continuing to post links despite people pointing out that this is a questionable source at best.

Agreed.

IClaudine · 05/03/2024 10:13

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 10:02

@IClaudine because it is a source of the original Gazan accounts on instagram and TikTok. Please just hide the thread if you don’t want to see it. It seems like you just want a fight.

If you want to be able to post and not be challenged you are on the wrong site!

Scirocco · 05/03/2024 10:17

Short clips of people buying and selling food (which is kind of necessary for people to eat) with no wider context, being presented as 'The Gaza You Don't See' and with accusations of 'Gaza is conning us' is disinformation. It is attempting to manipulate people's perceptions of what is happening by taking some snippets of less-than-horrific but still not good moments in people's lives, other footage that doesn't have evidence of having actually been contemporaneous but is presented as contemporaneous, and using it to discourage compassion and support for innocent people struggling to survive, suggesting a 'con', and as an added bonus, social media algorithms mean people clicking on the links and viewing the content then get exposed to increasingly biased content.

ssd · 05/03/2024 10:17

@Homeeducation1 , your motive in posting these links is plain to see. Life in Gaza looks expensive but not all that bad. Why are they complaining, eh?
And telling people who point out how your links are lacking any credibility, just to leave the thread, won't work no matter how many times you tell them.

MissyB1 · 05/03/2024 10:19

This is a bloody weird thread. Poor attempt at gaslighting OP.

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 10:19

@@misssunshine4040 The point of the thread is, I had no idea aid was being sold to the extent it is. I thought others might find that interesting and to see there is a primary source of information coming from the Gazan people themselves.
Obviously everyone (by the comments on this thread) already knew this information.

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Scirocco · 05/03/2024 10:20

You know, I was considering home education for DC but this thread has put me off a bit.

Efacsen · 05/03/2024 10:21

Not sure why this is newsworthy/threadworthy

The sale of stolen humanitarian aid on the black market always occurs in these situations - it's a sign that insufficient food is being made available to the population

Also before Israel drastically reduced the amount of humanitarian aid about a month ago NGOs were facilitating the delivery of 10 trucks/day of food for commercial purposes - for 2 reasons - to keep the markets 'alive' and secondly to provide food for a few people with money so that they didn't become aid-dependent

The OPs attitude is peculiar

ColleenDonaghy · 05/03/2024 10:23

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 10:19

@@misssunshine4040 The point of the thread is, I had no idea aid was being sold to the extent it is. I thought others might find that interesting and to see there is a primary source of information coming from the Gazan people themselves.
Obviously everyone (by the comments on this thread) already knew this information.

It happens in every country where aid is provided. There is nothing new or unexpected in that.

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 10:26

@Efacsen that is really interesting information. I had no idea that food aid was being put aside to be sold.

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Efacsen · 05/03/2024 10:32

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 10:26

@Efacsen that is really interesting information. I had no idea that food aid was being put aside to be sold.

Sorry perhaps I didn't explain that very clearly - it wasn't 'food aid' that was going to the markets - it was food from regular commercial companies

The NGOs were only helping the commercial companies make the deliveries

It's also not unusual or special to Gaza

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 10:36

@Efacsen I see. Have these commercial companies now stopped delivering?

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RoastSquash · 05/03/2024 10:37

I don’t see how it’s disinformation if this is information provided by Gazans themselves? It doesn’t change the fact that aid is woefully insufficient, everything is clearly not fine and dandy in Gaza and they should never have been put in this position in the first place, but it’s a bit hypocritical to get upset and offended by a pro-Israel account sharing posts from Gazans themselves if you’re happy to spread often unverified, biased SM posts from anti-Israel accounts all over the same platform. Is it more or less threadworthy than IDF soldiers and women’s underwear?

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 05/03/2024 10:38

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 08:59

Whole frozen chicken for 60 shekels ($17) in south Gaza Strip, 1 day ago.
Posted on March 2nd.

https://twitter.com/imshin/status/1764365745717141949

Frozen chicken???

Quite impressive for a place that the electricity has been turned off for 5 months.

Efacsen · 05/03/2024 10:41

@Homeeducation1
IDK for certain but my guess would be that trucks carrying humanitarian aid will currently be being prioritised over trucks carrying commercial produce

It's one small way that NGOs try to keep the economy afloat and stop everyone becoming aid dependent

Scirocco · 05/03/2024 10:45

NerdWhoEatsMedlar · 05/03/2024 10:38

Frozen chicken???

Quite impressive for a place that the electricity has been turned off for 5 months.

It's a magic, time-travelling frozen chicken. That's why it's so expensive.

Homeeducation1 · 05/03/2024 10:50

@Efacsen Yes, trucks with aid should take priority. I had no idea in war situations they would have commercial trucks going in. You obviously have worked in this field. Thanks for the information.

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MrsSkylerWhite · 05/03/2024 10:54

So you take your news from TikTok?

Jesus wept.

Efacsen · 05/03/2024 10:55

The point of the thread is, I had no idea aid was being sold to the extent it is.

There are only 2 or 3 markets functioning in Gaza ATM due to lack of goods to sell and widespread fighting - the photos of them online I've seen look like pitiful affairs

SM posts give no real indication of how much food/food aid is being sold

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