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Anti-Muslim hate has increased since 7-10

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EasterIssland · 22/02/2024 19:24

Out of the 901 off-line cases of anti-Muslim hate, there were 535 reports of abusive behaviour, 77 threats, 83 assaults, 79 acts of vandalism, 69 cases of discrimination, 39 acts of hate speech and 19 examples of anti-Muslim literature.

https://news.sky.com/story/335-rise-in-anti-muslim-hate-cases-in-uk-since-hamass-attack-on-7-october-13078030?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

Greatest rise in anti-Muslim hate in UK since Hamas's attack on 7 October

Incidents included verbal threats, online abuse and in one instance, a Muslim family had the word "Hamas" written on their front door, a UK-based organisation has said.

https://news.sky.com/story/335-rise-in-anti-muslim-hate-cases-in-uk-since-hamass-attack-on-7-october-13078030?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

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MooseBreath · 25/02/2024 18:04

I figure that since many people who know I am Jewish have distanced themselves from me in the past few months, the same is happening to those who are Muslim. It's horrible. Hate crimes are definitely on the rise.

At an Under-5s group I attend, I have noticed that the only Muslim mum who attends has been sat on her own a lot more since October 7th. I have joined her on occasion, but generally have to follow around my rowdy toddler. It's not unnoticed though, and she and I have discussed the loneliness of it all.

Dulra · 25/02/2024 18:52

kirinm · 25/02/2024 11:18

And two MPs (Tory) have refused to acknowledge it was racist. Tories seem intent on Islamophobia being their election strategy.

They've obviously seen the success of Trump 😓

Dulra · 25/02/2024 18:58

MooseBreath · 25/02/2024 18:04

I figure that since many people who know I am Jewish have distanced themselves from me in the past few months, the same is happening to those who are Muslim. It's horrible. Hate crimes are definitely on the rise.

At an Under-5s group I attend, I have noticed that the only Muslim mum who attends has been sat on her own a lot more since October 7th. I have joined her on occasion, but generally have to follow around my rowdy toddler. It's not unnoticed though, and she and I have discussed the loneliness of it all.

That is awful I cannot understand people's mentality to exclude someone in this way. So blinkered

PeasfullPerson · 25/02/2024 19:32

MooseBreath · 25/02/2024 18:04

I figure that since many people who know I am Jewish have distanced themselves from me in the past few months, the same is happening to those who are Muslim. It's horrible. Hate crimes are definitely on the rise.

At an Under-5s group I attend, I have noticed that the only Muslim mum who attends has been sat on her own a lot more since October 7th. I have joined her on occasion, but generally have to follow around my rowdy toddler. It's not unnoticed though, and she and I have discussed the loneliness of it all.

I’m really sorry to hear that is happening, what a horrible experience. I’m pleased you have found each other.

PaintInColour · 26/02/2024 07:01

OppsUpsSide · 23/02/2024 00:01

Muslim hatred is a chronic and accepted state.

with a Muslim head of state in Scotland and a Muslim mayor of London. You do the whole community a disservice by dismissing them as unrepresented and having no agency.

What also annoyed me about your comment is that you dismissed my opinion on Islamophobia by mentioning two Muslim people who are in positions of power. When anyone mentions Jewish prominent figures, we are told it’s an antisemitic trope to talk about Jewish people running the world. There is such incredible hypocrisy around. From day one it’s been obvious to those who choose to see.

OppsUpsSide · 26/02/2024 07:05

What also annoyed me about your comment is that you dismissed my opinion on Islamophobia

I’m not dismissing it, you are entitled to your opinion, however I don’t think Muslims are underrepresented in positions of power which would seem to be a positive, especially for people who are very concerned that the Muslim population is a vulnerable minority.

PaintInColour · 26/02/2024 07:30

OppsUpsSide · 26/02/2024 07:05

What also annoyed me about your comment is that you dismissed my opinion on Islamophobia

I’m not dismissing it, you are entitled to your opinion, however I don’t think Muslims are underrepresented in positions of power which would seem to be a positive, especially for people who are very concerned that the Muslim population is a vulnerable minority.

Two people in power does not take away from individual experiences of Islamophobia, which is what I was talking about. If someone said that Jewish people are abused for wearing their orthodox clothes, would it be ok for me to say in response that there are Jewish people in positions of power? How is that an appropriate response? I don’t think it is. At all.

Dulra · 26/02/2024 07:47

@PaintInColour I completely agree with you. I have seen so much double standards on these boards. People calling people out for antisemitism in every form and rightly so while at the same time using derogatory language when talking about Palestinians and Muslims and even dismissing others who point out anti Muslim language and hate. I find that so unpalatable and I have said it on here a few times you either see all people as equal or you don't, you can't pick and choose who you feel is fair game for discrimination and who isn't.

Parkingt111 · 26/02/2024 08:39

@MooseBreath I'm sorry for your experience, and also just wanted to say that I think it's very kind of you to make an effort with the other mother who you can see is being left out

headstone · 26/02/2024 19:01

This isn’t even the first time Khan has to put up with Tory Islamophobia, I remember when Zak aGoldsmith also tried to paint him as a Muslim extremist in order to win the vote, thankfully the people of London saw through it when they realised Khan new his way around London being he was a real Londoner. Sadly the genocide in Gaza has reignited the far right and anti Muslim hatred again.

Humdingerydoo · 26/02/2024 19:23

I'd be interested in knowing who it is who is responsible for the increase in anti-Muslim comments / threats / actions. Is anyone aware if there is any data on that? I mean, is it the same people who also target Jews? Is it Tommy Robinson and his despicable friends?

Humdingerydoo · 26/02/2024 20:56

Scirocco · 26/02/2024 20:45

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/26/tory-supporters-lash-out-at-snake-sunak-over-lee-anderson-suspension

Grassroots Conservatives in this case, wanting to "remove the threat of Islam from [their] country".

I worry that it suits the Tories quite well to be able to blame an election loss later this year on stuff like this. They'll basically blame it on Muslims being "oversensitive" or something equally inane. They'll 100% find someone to blame as it will never be their own fault for being offensive pricks in the first place.

usernamealreadytaken · 26/02/2024 22:32

Scirocco · 23/02/2024 07:56

Humza Yousaf and Sadiq Khan both receive a lot of Islamophobic abuse and Islamophobia colouring people's views of their work.

I am so proud of both of them, and Anas Sarwar, even when I may disagree with policies, for the strength and dignity they show in the face of that.

Muslims and in particular Muslim women, remain under-represented at senior levels in most fields, as do many ethnic, faith and cultural minorities.

I have a good friend who is an older Muslim woman, and she and I have serious and frank discussions about many things. She expresses her frustration at the abuse she receives, both from Muslim men and from non-Muslims - different kinds of abuse, but abuse nonetheless.

How much representation do women, Muslim or otherwise, have in majority Muslim countries, and how much respect and dignity are women and non-Muslims afforded in those countries? Why is the UK expected to value Muslims, when Muslims make it clear that non-Muslims are not welcome or valued as equals in Muslim countries? Do areas with high Muslim populations in the UK value and welcome white people and culture?

In the same way as the majority of white people are peaceful and tolerant but the few taint us all with the “racist” brush, the same can be said for Muslims. We’re all human beings, and can be quite vile, really.

Scirocco · 26/02/2024 22:46

@usernamealreadytaken "why is the UK expected to value Muslims...?", well at the bare minimum because when someone is a resident or citizen of this country then they should be afforded equal respect and rights as other residents and citizens.

headstone · 26/02/2024 23:08

Usernamealreadytaken it doesn’t matter what other country do, in this country we should be treating people equally regardless of their religion. How can it be right that a Tory MPs can attack the London Mayor simply because he is Muslim, or other Tory MPs making up lies that Muslims are creating no go areas and that cities are controlled by Muslim gangs. Why should Muslims have to put up with this hate speech from elected officials?

OppsUpsSide · 26/02/2024 23:13

Tory MPs making up lies that Muslims are creating no go areas and that cities are controlled by Muslim gangs

It’s a valid question but I think you will struggle to have any effective discussion around these without some concession that the following actually is true…

Islamist terrorism is currently the largest terrorist threat faced by the UK in volume making up around three quarters of MI5’s caseload. Extreme right-wing terrorism almost exclusively represents the remaining threat.

headstone · 26/02/2024 23:29

Islamist terrorism has arisen due to destabilisation of the Middle East in part by our own politicians. Now we have the same politicians trying to encourage the likes of the far right by spreading lies and conspiracy theories about the general Muslim population which is obviously completely different to those involved with terrorism.

SaffronSpice · 26/02/2024 23:39

Islamophobia is fear of Islam. Why should we not fear Islam? Just look at Islamic states; eg Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, UAE, Syria. How are women treated in these countries? Or other faith communities? Where is freedom of speech? This was Iran in the 1970s:

Anti-Muslim hate has increased since 7-10
OppsUpsSide · 26/02/2024 23:40

Islamist terrorism has arisen due to destabilisation of the Middle East in part by our own politicians.

’in part’?
Islamist terrorism is a real threat within many communities and this includes Muslim communities. Suggesting ‘well this is irrelevant because the British are partly to blame’ achieves not a lot.

OppsUpsSide · 26/02/2024 23:46

Islamophobia is fear of Islam. Why should we not fear Islam?

Western ideals are suspicious of all religions, it’s not even specific to Islam, Islam is just heavily over represented in terms of ideologies that take radical action.

SaffronSpice · 26/02/2024 23:54

OppsUpsSide · 26/02/2024 23:46

Islamophobia is fear of Islam. Why should we not fear Islam?

Western ideals are suspicious of all religions, it’s not even specific to Islam, Islam is just heavily over represented in terms of ideologies that take radical action.

It is not just the radical action though is it? It is also its beliefs around eg the rights of women.

dimllaishebiaith · 26/02/2024 23:56

SaffronSpice · 26/02/2024 23:39

Islamophobia is fear of Islam. Why should we not fear Islam? Just look at Islamic states; eg Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, UAE, Syria. How are women treated in these countries? Or other faith communities? Where is freedom of speech? This was Iran in the 1970s:

Islam has been the state religion of Iran since the 13th century and was widespread in Iran since before that

There is a difference between Islam as a religion and the political and terrorist entities using Islam as an excuse to seize power and control people

Islam doesnt need to be feared any more than Christianity, Buddhism, Sikhism, or a whole host of other religons. The thing to fear is when they are tools used on the hands of power hungry people who often twist them for their own ends. The same can be seen on a lesser scale in the US for example with funamental Christians using Christianity as a tool to try to influence politics which often go far beyond what the Bible is actually teaching.

OppsUpsSide · 27/02/2024 00:11

There is a difference between Islam as a religion and the political and terrorist entities using Islam as an excuse to seize power and control people

Absolutely agree.

Islam doesnt need to be feared any more than Christianity, Buddhism, Sikhism, or a whole host of other religons.

unfortunately I can’t, currently, agree with this. As per the previous government quote I posted, those other religions simply don’t pose the same threat.

dimllaishebiaith · 27/02/2024 00:27

OppsUpsSide · 27/02/2024 00:11

There is a difference between Islam as a religion and the political and terrorist entities using Islam as an excuse to seize power and control people

Absolutely agree.

Islam doesnt need to be feared any more than Christianity, Buddhism, Sikhism, or a whole host of other religons.

unfortunately I can’t, currently, agree with this. As per the previous government quote I posted, those other religions simply don’t pose the same threat.

You might feel differently if you were a Hindu in Sri Lanka being killed by Buddhists in a genocide

Or Buddhists killing Muslims in Myanmar also classed as a genocide

Or perhaps going back a few years the genocide by the Serbs of the Bosnian Muslims

Islam as a religon is no more to be feared than any other religion. Islam being used by terrorists and other extremists perhaps, but I was referring to the religion itself replying to someone discussing fear of the religion itself. Seperate from how some people are using the religion and other religions