Genuine question - why does the USA support Israel so strongly?

[Bathsheba1789]

Genuine question. I just don’t understand it. I do know some of the history, and the feelings about the need to create a Jewish homeland post WW2. However currently - Netanyahu and Biden don’t get on, Obama had a very frosty relationship with Netanyahu. The current Israeli coalition government contains some openly extremist politicians who have used racist rhetoric against the Palestinians in the past.
The IDF are clearly committing war crimes and the international pressure for a ceasefire is mounting.
So why is the US so pro Israel? The current debate about the UN resolution - why is the US demanding the language be watered down to keep Netanyahu happy - for goodness sake the USA is the most powerful country in the world.
genuinely don’t get it. This isn’t a goading question I just scratch my head at the whole thing (when not feeling utter despair at the terrible suffering in the world).

A safe haven from what and for whom?

A sea of nothingness? Does the ‘nothingness’ include Jordan, Egypt? What do you mean by ‘nothingness’ exactly?

Yes, the US is more religious and actively Christian than Europe. But that is a long way from believing the “rapture” will soon be upon us.

Why do I need to do that? I made no claims about equality in other countries in the region.

I pointed out that the claim that everyone in Israel has equal rights is false.

You could even make the argument that secular/agnostic/atheist citizens are discriminated against because only religious wedding ceremonies are recognised. There is no such thing as a civil ceremony which provides a legally recognised marriage.

Don’t understand how anyone could support Israel

I’m criticising a comment from another poster saying Israel provides equal rights to women and lgbt. No they don’t provide equal rights. The poster was talking about Israel and that’s who I’m talking about.

@FOJN right ok. Point made.

@Parker231
What photojournalist? Why not name them?
And it's a picture of a tank turfing up ground?
Not very verifiable?

Can we just say what we like now with no facts? No evidence?

Massive double standard.

The screen shot was from a Twitter post but it’s also on Sky News and other agencies
https://news.sky.com/story/israel-hamas-war-video-appears-to-show-idf-soldiers-rounding-up-half-naked-men-in-gaza-stadium-13037787

https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-calls-for-probe-of-video-showing-hundreds-of-stripped-palestinians-humiliated-in-captured-gaza-stadium/

@Parker231 the IDF did say they had detained hundreds of Hamas fighters though. www.timesofisrael.com/troops-kill-dozens-of-hamas-gunmen-in-north-gaza-idf-says-200-arrested-in-past-week/

Can we just say what we like now with no facts? No evidence?

Massive double standard.

Israel controls all access to Gaza as yu know.

They will not allow any witnesses in.

With that in mind people try to collate as best they can.

Any evidence on that besides what the IDF said?

We need more than that.

EasterIssland
It's one thing to disagree with a country's policy on various topics and quite another to write off an entire nation like that, especially one that's one of the few successful countries in the region.

https://youtube.com/shorts/cqrdQ3z5hY?si=JHJsrJaDwU4L7An1

How many times in the past year has the UN condemned Israel .. 15 times in 2022. Hundreds of times in the past few years.

How many times has the UN condemned hamas, the Palestineauthority... 0 times

PROBLEMS IN Syria 1 , other various shit holes of human atrocity. Condemned once each .. various countries with 1 condemnation

The UN .... wouldn't trust them to call out other atrocities in Syria, Dafur, Yemen, Iran etc.... only Israel is a problem to them

Any reason why you’ve directed your comment only at me and not at another poster as well that has written a similar comment about other countries few comments before mine ?

That's really racist @Xenia

This is racist too, Have you been to Syria? Do you know any Syrians?

Oh the irony.

Lot of it going about.

EasterIssland
Honestly I skim read the thread and missed it.
It's not acceptable to write off entire countries with different people, different traditions, different political positions, different ethnicities and religions and decide the whole country is awful.

Here's what you missed when you skim read.

PROBLEMS IN Syria 1 , other various shit holes of human atrocity.

This is overt racism and it's thriving on mumsnet at the moment.

Some nasty racists about. Entirely missing the point that so many of these countries are poor and unstable because of having been colonised and invaded and the subject of many wars. They’ll be saying in five years that Gaza is a shithole because the Gazans are too lazy and disorganised to build proper homes and universities and airports.

If you’re unlucky enough to have been born in a country which is used to fight wealthier countries’ proxy wars then yes, you’ll live in a poor, unstable country with uneducated, traumatised, radicalised people. The sort of places that some in those same wealthier countries write off as a shithole.