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Conflict in the Middle East

Israelis held hostage (part 2)

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 25/11/2023 18:50

Continuing

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Zoflorabore · 29/11/2023 11:16

@Parkingt111 thank you very much for that I will have a look.

EllaDisenchanted · 29/11/2023 11:17

This is current updates I am hearing: (Again, unverified)

Hamas agreed to extend ceasefire for up to 4 days, @ 1 hostage: 3prisoners

2 russians also to be released today in gratitude to putin (!)

Israel has today's list of 10, not seen any names yet though

once civilian female and children are out, the rest of the hostages will be divided into 5 groups for negotiation purposes.

elderly men who have completed reserve duty
men in reserve units
male soldiers in active duty
female soldiers in active duty
bodies

negotiation will be a lot higher

ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 29/11/2023 11:47

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12804109/Hamas-say-willing-extend-truce-four-days-allow-locate-free-hostages-held-groups-12-captives-freed-overnight.html#comments

It would appear that Hamas would like to release Israeli prisoners rather than the 7/10 hostages whom they apparently need to "find". I think this is an attempt to extend the pause to be able to regroup.
"If Israel agrees to this, Hamas 'would be able to release Israeli prisoners that it, other resistance movements and other parties hold during this period, according to the terms of the truce,' the source added. "

Hamas say they are willing to extend truce for four more days

Hamas today said they are willing to extend a truce for four more days which would give them time to locate and free more Israeli hostages held by other terror groups.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12804109/Hamas-say-willing-extend-truce-four-days-allow-locate-free-hostages-held-groups-12-captives-freed-overnight.html#comments

Efacsen · 29/11/2023 12:15

Hope I'm not repeating something already known/posted

Benjamin Netanyahu’s office has told CNN that it believes there are 161 people seized in Israel on 7 October who are still being held captive in Gaza.

The prime minister’s office told the US news network that four of them are children under the age of 18, with four at the ages of 18 and 19

There are believed to be ten people being held who are aged 75 or older.

It said of the 161 that 15 are foreigners, and 146 are Israelis, some of whom are dual nationals.

Israel | World news | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/world/israel

ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 29/11/2023 12:32

This sounds as if Hamas wants to keep the hostages for a later date for more leverage.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 29/11/2023 13:05

I am praying that Gali and Aisha will be out today, they're the only under 18 girls left. I dread to think how the crowd would behave if Aisha is still wearing her hijab.

Kfir is the most valuable hostage in the world right now they'll keep him as long as they can, whoever has him

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StarbucksSmarterSister · 29/11/2023 13:20

Zoflorabore · 29/11/2023 10:45

This situation is getting so desperate now and I wonder how many people will never be returned at all?

I have been thinking about a family I watched in the very early days where the mum was interviewed in a terrible state and told of her just turned 18 year old daughter Mayaan was murdered by Hamas in their home in front of them all. 2 younger dc I think 9 and 11 and they have a 15yr old daughter too who was away in another part of Israel. Hamas took the dad away who was covered in his daughter’s blood and I couldn’t remember his name so searched for it again and eventually found it. His name is Tsachi Idan (49) and I really hope his family get him home.

Does anyone know if Mia Schen has been released yet? She was on video with injuries and was clearly being told what to say. I think she’s 21.

This whole situation has affected me more than I ever thought possible and I’m going through lots in my life right now but it makes me stop and think no matter what problems I’ve got I am safe and that’s something I’ve always taken for granted.

Tsachi's cousin Adam Maanit and his wife live in Brighton. I've been following them on Twitter since I first saw that terrible video.

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Parkingt111 · 29/11/2023 13:23

Some good news for those of you who have been following the campaign of the family members of the hostages

The Times of Israel reports that Ayelet Katzir, one of the leading figures in a campaign group of families who lost loved ones on 7 October, has been released from Israeli police custody after being arrested while demonstrating outside the Knesset in Jerusalem.

EllaDisenchanted · 29/11/2023 13:27

I've just seen that Kfir's family is not on today's list

ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 29/11/2023 14:08

Parkingt111 · 29/11/2023 13:23

Some good news for those of you who have been following the campaign of the family members of the hostages

The Times of Israel reports that Ayelet Katzir, one of the leading figures in a campaign group of families who lost loved ones on 7 October, has been released from Israeli police custody after being arrested while demonstrating outside the Knesset in Jerusalem.

Sounds like a veiled criticism of Israeli police.

She was right to have been arrested as she would be in every country for doing the following:
"The police said one woman was arrested for blocking the access road to the Knesset and ramming her sign into an MK’s car, Ynet reported."

This is dangerous. Protests should be peaceful. It was a deterrent style arrest.

Parkingt111 · 29/11/2023 14:22

@ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow I actually didn't know she had done that
the news site that reported her release didn't mention this.

Apart from that I have been following general
updates on how they have campaigned non stop for their loved ones and i have alot of respect for their perseverance in doing so (obviously not breaking the law though)

ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 29/11/2023 14:25

Parkingt111 · 29/11/2023 14:22

@ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow I actually didn't know she had done that
the news site that reported her release didn't mention this.

Apart from that I have been following general
updates on how they have campaigned non stop for their loved ones and i have alot of respect for their perseverance in doing so (obviously not breaking the law though)

Her offence was clearly written about in the same Times of Israel article you referenced.

Parkingt111 · 29/11/2023 14:29

ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 29/11/2023 14:25

Her offence was clearly written about in the same Times of Israel article you referenced.

I didn't read it there
I read it in the guardian which didn't post all of the article

Parkingt111 · 29/11/2023 14:31

@ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow this was all that was posted
Which ofcourse paints a very different picture to what you are saying

Israelis held hostage (part 2)
ohforheavenssakedearcomeonnow · 29/11/2023 14:36

Fair enough. It was misleading.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 29/11/2023 14:55

Hamas have said baby Kfir is dead.

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SomeCatFromJapan · 29/11/2023 14:57

I've unfortunately read the same from various sources. I hope it isn't true.

Efacsen · 29/11/2023 14:59

DM have an article posted on another thread

EllaDisenchanted · 29/11/2023 15:01

IDF looking into it. Until Israel confirms, I’m holding hope. They reported chana katzir as dead and she was released. There is a chance this is further psychological warfare.

Parkingt111 · 29/11/2023 15:03

Praying its not true aswell

StarbucksSmarterSister · 29/11/2023 15:04

They said he, Ariel and their mother. They could prove it by releasing his father and the bodies.

I don't trust them at all.

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EllaDisenchanted · 29/11/2023 15:18

Release of two Russian hostages has begun

CatLoaf · 29/11/2023 15:20

Oh no, no.

Kaffeebitte · 29/11/2023 15:34

could have been in an Israeli strike presumably ? We may never know, but if a strike presumably they will release the father to confirm.