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Conflict in the Middle East

Alternative perspectives

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notsoready4school · 15/11/2023 20:35

this film shows some of the changes in the narrative coming through in America from younger Jewish generation re Israel. Just sharing in case it’s of interest, online viewing tomorrow at 7pm (free). You can watch a trailer on the link

https://kinema.com/events/israelism-co-host-by-na-amod-lobazv

Israelism (co-host by Na'amod)

Get tickets for the virtual screening of Israelism

https://kinema.com/events/israelism-co-host-by-na-amod-lobazv

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Ohlalalalala · 15/11/2023 21:11

notsoready4school · 15/11/2023 20:35

this film shows some of the changes in the narrative coming through in America from younger Jewish generation re Israel. Just sharing in case it’s of interest, online viewing tomorrow at 7pm (free). You can watch a trailer on the link

https://kinema.com/events/israelism-co-host-by-na-amod-lobazv

Thanks! Looks interesting. There are indeed more and more Jewish people speaking out against Israel’s inhuman treatment of Palestinians.

ssd · 15/11/2023 21:19

Thanks, that looks very interesting.

notsoready4school · 15/11/2023 22:11

I know there is a lot in the media about Jewish voice for peace and a few other Jewish groups but most try to discredit them, some say they aren’t even jewish so would be interesting to hear what’s really driving this and where could it go.

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Chaitales · 15/11/2023 22:47

Thanks! Interesting

whalestoeinstitute · 16/11/2023 12:19

Your last thread on Jewish people being indoctrinated was deleted so you decided to try again I see.

Toothyfruity · 16/11/2023 12:27

whalestoeinstitute · 16/11/2023 12:19

Your last thread on Jewish people being indoctrinated was deleted so you decided to try again I see.

Why don't you give it a watch? You might learn something.

whalestoeinstitute · 16/11/2023 12:36

Toothyfruity · 16/11/2023 12:27

Why don't you give it a watch? You might learn something.

About how Jewish people are all in a trance thye need to be broked out of? No thanks.

BenZona · 16/11/2023 12:59

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Xenia · 16/11/2023 13:00

Luckily in the West we can say what we choose. I support Israel and we are standing up against ISIS type terrorists who slit the throats of babies in their homes. That isd the reality. Hamas was concerned yet another arab state was about to accept the state of Israel so decided to ensure its own people were put into a state of war. Hamas has bought all this on its own head.

notsoready4school · 16/11/2023 13:07

whalestoeinstitute · 16/11/2023 12:19

Your last thread on Jewish people being indoctrinated was deleted so you decided to try again I see.

Yes I actually requested it to be deleted before it was. I had not appreciated how goady it might have appeared but this isn’t a movie I made. It is genuinely another perspective and I think we should all try to see other perspectives even if we then decide they aren’t what we agree without being dogmatic that there is only one right answer.

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whalestoeinstitute · 16/11/2023 13:09

notsoready4school · 16/11/2023 13:07

Yes I actually requested it to be deleted before it was. I had not appreciated how goady it might have appeared but this isn’t a movie I made. It is genuinely another perspective and I think we should all try to see other perspectives even if we then decide they aren’t what we agree without being dogmatic that there is only one right answer.

Saying that Jewish people who don't criticise Israel are brainwashed and in a trance is quite dogmatic.

notsoready4school · 16/11/2023 13:13

whalestoeinstitute · 16/11/2023 13:09

Saying that Jewish people who don't criticise Israel are brainwashed and in a trance is quite dogmatic.

Well there is a lot of criticism of western democracies by their constituents. Do you not think Israel is odd in that it can seemingly do no wrong?

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bness · 16/11/2023 13:28

Xenia · 16/11/2023 13:00

Luckily in the West we can say what we choose. I support Israel and we are standing up against ISIS type terrorists who slit the throats of babies in their homes. That isd the reality. Hamas was concerned yet another arab state was about to accept the state of Israel so decided to ensure its own people were put into a state of war. Hamas has bought all this on its own head.

I would have envied the state of la la land you seem to be happy to stay in, floating around not being perturbed by genocide because it's justified in your books

Except that I feel sorry for you. You may be happy and satisfied in your life right now while many of us are living in a state of devastation, but being a cheerleader for murder and on the wrong side eid history - sorry, not for me.

whalestoeinstitute · 16/11/2023 13:31

notsoready4school · 16/11/2023 13:13

Well there is a lot of criticism of western democracies by their constituents. Do you not think Israel is odd in that it can seemingly do no wrong?

What constituents?

Toothyfruity · 16/11/2023 14:45

whalestoeinstitute · 16/11/2023 12:36

About how Jewish people are all in a trance thye need to be broked out of? No thanks.

That's not what I took from the link but sounds like you have your mind made.

I think it's worth examining perspectives on an ideology that is seemingly OK with their state forces killing 11k people in 5 weeks, including neonates who are dying from lack of oxygen as we speak, and who have deprived people of food, water and aid for 5 weeks.

I'd like to know how we got here and how we stop this from happening again.

notsoready4school · 16/11/2023 15:48

whalestoeinstitute · 16/11/2023 13:31

What constituents?

constituents of each of the western countries criticise the actions of their governments and call out what they see wrong and call for change.

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Rammer · 16/11/2023 15:52

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notsoready4school · 16/11/2023 16:10

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I don’t hate Israel, I hate what Israel is doing to innocent civilians and I think more people should disapprove of that.

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notsoready4school · 16/11/2023 16:11

notsoready4school · 16/11/2023 16:10

I don’t hate Israel, I hate what Israel is doing to innocent civilians and I think more people should disapprove of that.

It is strange you don’t know how to spell Israel despite such strong feelings about this.

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HouseonAshTreeLane · 16/11/2023 16:15

notsoready4school · 16/11/2023 13:13

Well there is a lot of criticism of western democracies by their constituents. Do you not think Israel is odd in that it can seemingly do no wrong?

No one says Israel can do no wrong.

treeees · 16/11/2023 16:25

looks really interesting thanks OP.

Rammer · 16/11/2023 16:43

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treeees · 16/11/2023 20:16

Just watching it, well worth seeing. Eye opening about Israeli govt oppression of the Palestinians.

notsoready4school · 16/11/2023 20:49

Seriously I had no idea how isolating it must feel for these Jewish people. It must be so hard to speak up. They are so brave and generous hearted

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notsoready4school · 16/11/2023 20:51

HouseonAshTreeLane · 16/11/2023 16:15

No one says Israel can do no wrong.

We all know that, but it seems you can’t say Israel is doing wrong even when it clearly is.

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