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Conflict in the Middle East

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture

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Desertrose2023 · 15/11/2023 04:25

this thread is to document the racist, criminal and dehumanizing behaviour by the most “moral army in the world” both during its most recent bombardment of Gaza and across decades of military occupation in the West Bank.

to start, here is a video of Israeli soldiers chanting they will turn Gazans into Kebabs.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czjm8bYu-_X/?igshid=MXB0Yzl2NDFpcWx5aQ==

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EasterIssland · 27/11/2023 23:42

She’s been mentioned on this thread about a lawyer telling her mum she’s being tortured

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture
Brumbies · 28/11/2023 07:56

Horror as Hamas prevents release of 10-month-old baby hostage
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Brumbies · 28/11/2023 08:03

The Hamas terrorist are coward hiding behind a baby

Brumbies · 28/11/2023 08:04

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Brumbies · 28/11/2023 08:05

Meanwhile, Avichay Adraee, an Arabic media spokesman for the IDF, said: “Children and babies under the age of one who have not seen the light of day for more than 50 days are being held captive by Hamas, [which] treats some of them like loot and in some places has transferred them to other terrorist organisations in the Gaza Strip.”

Efacsen · 28/11/2023 08:09

EasterIssland · 27/11/2023 23:42

She’s been mentioned on this thread about a lawyer telling her mum she’s being tortured

Prominent Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi on list of Palestinians who could be released

Think this is the same person? Headline is from about an hour ago

EasterIssland · 28/11/2023 09:09

Efacsen · 28/11/2023 08:09

Prominent Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi on list of Palestinians who could be released

Think this is the same person? Headline is from about an hour ago

Yes. Just saw it that she might be released

treeees · 28/11/2023 09:12

Amazing if true!

treeees · 28/11/2023 09:14

Israel’s Insidious Narrative About Palestinian Prisoners

More than two-thirds of the Palestinians proposed for release by Israel under the truce have not been convicted of any crimes. Most were arrested as children.

https://theintercept.com/2023/11/26/palestine-israel-prisoners/

treeees · 28/11/2023 09:17

The Netanyahu government and its supporters have promoted a narrative that these prisoners are all hardened terrorists who committed violent crimes. This assertion relies on a farcical “Alice in Wonderland”-inspired logic of convicting them by fiat in public before any trial, even the sham trials to which Palestinians are routinely subjected. Israel released a list of the names with alleged crimes they committed. And who is making these allegations? A military that acts as a brutal occupation force against Palestinians in the West Bank.

The vast majority of the 300 Palestinian prisoners proposed for release by Israel are teenage boys. According to the list, 124 of the prisoners are under the age of 18, including a 15-year-old girl, and many of the 146 who are 18 years old turned so in Israeli prisons. According to the definitions laid out in the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child, these Palestinians were children when they were arrested by Israel.

Of the 300 names Israel proposed for potential release, 233 of them have not been convicted of any crimes; they are categorized simply as “under arrest.” Police and prosecutors all over the world make allegations later proven false during a fair trial. The Israeli narrative promotes the fiction that these Palestinians are in the middle of some sort of fair judicial proceeding in which they will eventually be tried in a fair and impartial process. This is a complete, verifiable farce. Palestinians are not prosecuted in civil courts; they are tried in military courts. They often are denied access to lawyers and to purported evidence against them, and are regularly held in isolation for extreme periods and subjected to other forms of abuse. Israel is the only “developed” country in the world that routinely tries children in military courts, and its system has been repeatedly criticized and denounced by major international human rights organizations and institutions.

treeees · 28/11/2023 09:50

https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/185m4z3/a_video_showing_israeli_bulldozer_destroying/

A video showing Israeli bulldozer destroying Yasser Arafat memorial in Tulkarem, West Bank.

Arafat is the Palestinian leader who initiated the peace process with Israel and for the first time acknowledged its right to exist.

Brumbies · 28/11/2023 10:34

Brumbies · 28/11/2023 08:05

Meanwhile, Avichay Adraee, an Arabic media spokesman for the IDF, said: “Children and babies under the age of one who have not seen the light of day for more than 50 days are being held captive by Hamas, [which] treats some of them like loot and in some places has transferred them to other terrorist organisations in the Gaza Strip.”

No answers? Your beliefs are so misguided.

EasterIssland · 28/11/2023 10:39

Brumbies · 28/11/2023 10:34

No answers? Your beliefs are so misguided.

Taking into account the thread is called
“Documenting Israeli army racism and torture” maybe we’re fed up of your attempts to derail the thread and we’d rather focus on what this thread is about and talk about what you’re pointing at in the right thread ? Or maybe we are fed up of your attacks putting words in our mouths that we’ve never said and we just ignore you

Brumbies · 28/11/2023 10:41

As I thought. No real response. One sided view.

treeees · 28/11/2023 10:55

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whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 28/11/2023 11:02

@Brumbies I also agree with @treeees & @EasterIssland.

But also just to point out the obvious, I have, like I'm sure many other posters have done, considered the view points of both sides and one side is clearly more in need of support than the other.

treeees · 28/11/2023 11:04

@whatswrongwiththeworldddd very good point, thank you :)

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 28/11/2023 11:40

@treeees welcome x

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 28/11/2023 11:40

@Brumbies yes he should be released. But he's not alone. He has been kept with his family as fellow hostages. I'm not saying its right. But you have worded it as he alone in there.

I can't talk for hamas, I dont know why they have passed them over. I don't agree with it. But I am assuming that they will want israel to agree to a proper ceasefire. The fact they have kept the baby with its family suggests that they want the baby to be looked after by his mother. Which for a hostage situation, I think is fair.

As I said, I'm not hamas, I have no idea what or why they did it. But going by the fact other hostages have been treated well, j would have a good guess that this family will be too.

Now you can come back at me and say I'm this and that blah blah whatever. You wanted a response. So here's mine.

I hope they will be home soon.

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 28/11/2023 12:00

Palestinian families where shot at waiting outside the ofer prison, whilst waiting for their children's release. One was killed others injured. This is in the west bank. So as the ceasefire is in gaza. They see the west bank as fair game. Shameful.

treeees · 28/11/2023 12:02

@Fairtobefairohhhhhc what? how cruel and awful. So these poor children coming out of prison now have dead and injured family members for no reason at all other than sheer cruelty.

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 28/11/2023 12:02

@treeees correct

EasterIssland · 28/11/2023 12:13

117 people have been released and 116 new people have been arrested in the last few days in West Bank as well