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Conflict in the Middle East

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture

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Desertrose2023 · 15/11/2023 04:25

this thread is to document the racist, criminal and dehumanizing behaviour by the most “moral army in the world” both during its most recent bombardment of Gaza and across decades of military occupation in the West Bank.

to start, here is a video of Israeli soldiers chanting they will turn Gazans into Kebabs.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czjm8bYu-_X/?igshid=MXB0Yzl2NDFpcWx5aQ==

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EasterIssland · 27/11/2023 09:05

feralunderclass · 27/11/2023 09:02

It's quite likely a lot of the released prisoners will be rearrested fairly shortly, this has happened after previous exchanges. It's intimidation and population control.

If that happens … I suspect a new 7-10 might happen

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 09:27

feralunderclass · 27/11/2023 09:02

It's quite likely a lot of the released prisoners will be rearrested fairly shortly, this has happened after previous exchanges. It's intimidation and population control.

I really wouldn't be surprised if they did, they've gone back on their words several times. Equally I would not be surprised if their actions saw another attack on them.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 09:36

This is disturbing if it's true

www.instagram.com/reel/C0DWw1joduK/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 09:50

@treeees I was just reading about this. Disgusting

feralunderclass · 27/11/2023 09:59

treeees · 27/11/2023 09:38

@whatswrongwiththeworldddd really awful. As per one of the comments it reminds me of the organ harvesting Israel admitted to carrying out on Palestinians:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/21/israeli-pathologists-harvested-organs

Edited

Israel called the article antisemitic blood libel.

Just putting this here that the AS accusation has been a purposeful tactic by Israel in order to silence, censor and chill evidence presented.

Back to the topic, this is why I wouldn't trust any medical evidence that comes out of Israel. Many young Palestinian prisoners die of "natural causes" 🤔

treeees · 27/11/2023 10:02

@feralunderclass Thank you. I'm confused about calling it blood libel and anti semitic when in the article they themselves admit it?

The Israeli military confirmed to the programme that the practice took place, but added: "This activity ended a decade ago and does not happen any longer."

Hiss said: "We started to harvest corneas ... whatever was done was highly informal. No permission was asked from the family."

Maybe they decided to admit it later or something.

feralunderclass · 27/11/2023 10:07

treeees · 27/11/2023 10:02

@feralunderclass Thank you. I'm confused about calling it blood libel and anti semitic when in the article they themselves admit it?

The Israeli military confirmed to the programme that the practice took place, but added: "This activity ended a decade ago and does not happen any longer."

Hiss said: "We started to harvest corneas ... whatever was done was highly informal. No permission was asked from the family."

Maybe they decided to admit it later or something.

Because even though it's true, it must be AS because it is revealing wrong doings and it's because the Christians are trying to get back at Jews. They are throwing it out as a warning to others, speak badly about us and we will attempt to make you the perpetrator.

treeees · 27/11/2023 10:11

@feralunderclass ah thank you, that's insane they do that, basically you can't criticise them even on the terrible things they admit to, like a spoilt child, and they will even attack you for "daring" to call them out.

Israeli govt are experts at DARVO.

(Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender for anyone who doesn't know the term)

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 10:16

He's telling them there's no Palestine

www.instagram.com/reel/C0JQu0YIvn2/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

treeees · 27/11/2023 10:33

@whatswrongwiththeworldddd awful gaslighting 😥

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 27/11/2023 10:47

A few hours after Palestinians where released the IDF arrested more children on the west bank. It wpnt end. And those who spoke out will probably be re arrested once the 'cease fire' is over

treeees · 27/11/2023 10:50

@Fairtobefairohhhhhc FGS. How awful.

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 27/11/2023 10:51

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0Gp0h2Mz3S/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

The idf told this Israeli father his daughter was dead a d her body found. He was just reunited with her. She was with hamas. And looks to have been treated well considering it was a hostage situation. Ofcpurse hamas shouldn't of taken her. But why did the idf lie and say they found her body... maybe they weren't planning on getting their hostages back and it was better for their narrative to say she was dead. The poor father must have gone through hell and back.

I'm glad he is reunited with his daughter. The IDF are shameful for living to suit their narrative.

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Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 27/11/2023 10:51

I would post on some of the ither threads. But I would be called an antisemite. I'm not posting much these days as its really effecting myself personally. So sorry I keep randomly dropping in and out

treeees · 27/11/2023 10:55

@Fairtobefairohhhhhc thank you for sharing and I get why you're not posting so much. The vitriol against people who show up the IDF cruelty is awful. I've taken a few breaks for my own MH too. I think I have found a way to get less mentally involved with the vitriolic posters. Either ignore, post something different, or try to detach from their vitriol mentally / take a break / post on another less unfriendly thread. Thank you for sharing.

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 10:55

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 27/11/2023 10:51

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0Gp0h2Mz3S/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

The idf told this Israeli father his daughter was dead a d her body found. He was just reunited with her. She was with hamas. And looks to have been treated well considering it was a hostage situation. Ofcpurse hamas shouldn't of taken her. But why did the idf lie and say they found her body... maybe they weren't planning on getting their hostages back and it was better for their narrative to say she was dead. The poor father must have gone through hell and back.

I'm glad he is reunited with his daughter. The IDF are shameful for living to suit their narrative.

That's awful. It does beg the question though of how many other hostages taken by Hamas the IDF have lied about. I doubt this would be an isolated incident.

EasterIssland · 27/11/2023 10:57

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 27/11/2023 10:51

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0Gp0h2Mz3S/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

The idf told this Israeli father his daughter was dead a d her body found. He was just reunited with her. She was with hamas. And looks to have been treated well considering it was a hostage situation. Ofcpurse hamas shouldn't of taken her. But why did the idf lie and say they found her body... maybe they weren't planning on getting their hostages back and it was better for their narrative to say she was dead. The poor father must have gone through hell and back.

I'm glad he is reunited with his daughter. The IDF are shameful for living to suit their narrative.

Think there is a thread about her

sorry all those affected. Unfortunately, it’s not an easy topic and people should respect other people’s opinions… however , not everyone does. Some will use hate speech to attack you and your opinions, just ignore or report to mn and move on

BelleHathor · 27/11/2023 10:57

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 27/11/2023 10:51

I would post on some of the ither threads. But I would be called an antisemite. I'm not posting much these days as its really effecting myself personally. So sorry I keep randomly dropping in and out

Please take care of yourself and don't apologise, it can be really mentally draining with the constant having to defend yourself from spurious claims and gaslighting behaviour. Your humanity and love is seen and appreciated xxx 💐

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 11:04

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 27/11/2023 10:51

I would post on some of the ither threads. But I would be called an antisemite. I'm not posting much these days as its really effecting myself personally. So sorry I keep randomly dropping in and out

Thats understandable - we feel the same way - but the few hateful posts on here don't matter as much as your mental health. We appreciate you sharing with us. X

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 27/11/2023 11:09

Thank you everyone. And the same for everyone on both sides .

Dh has stopped me talking about it at home. Not that I thought it was other than commenting on the news. I think he can see I'm getting quite upset over it. And it's kot great for home. So I'm still here. I'm still thinking about everyone constantly. But my voice will be smaller for a while. X

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 13:42

Treatment of Israeli hostages

www.instagram.com/reel/C0I3cRSuzrM/?igshid=N2ViNmM2MDRjNw==

Itsaharddlife · 27/11/2023 13:57

whatswrongwiththeworldddd · 27/11/2023 13:42

Stark difference between how they treated the hostages and how Israel/IDF treats the children in their custody.

It's no wonder so many people are questioning the portrayal of hamas (rightly or wrongly) when first and accounts are likely this one. Yet when an actual victim of the IDFs brutality speaks up, they are told they are terrorists or liars a d their word can't be trusted.

Thereissomelight · 27/11/2023 14:01

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 27/11/2023 11:09

Thank you everyone. And the same for everyone on both sides .

Dh has stopped me talking about it at home. Not that I thought it was other than commenting on the news. I think he can see I'm getting quite upset over it. And it's kot great for home. So I'm still here. I'm still thinking about everyone constantly. But my voice will be smaller for a while. X

I found it very upsetting too. Step away if you need to but putting your voice out steadily from time to time makes a difference…to them and to you. There are moderate voices on both sides.