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Conflict in the Middle East

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture

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Desertrose2023 · 15/11/2023 04:25

this thread is to document the racist, criminal and dehumanizing behaviour by the most “moral army in the world” both during its most recent bombardment of Gaza and across decades of military occupation in the West Bank.

to start, here is a video of Israeli soldiers chanting they will turn Gazans into Kebabs.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czjm8bYu-_X/?igshid=MXB0Yzl2NDFpcWx5aQ==

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treeees · 20/11/2023 20:55

OMG that is just too horrific. Human rights for Palestine now!

Brumbies · 21/11/2023 07:06

Moment Hamas killer chases down fleeing Nova festival Israelis
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Brumbies · 21/11/2023 07:12

I could show you more reasons Israel is defending itself. Let's get some perspective here.

EasterIssland · 21/11/2023 07:33

@Brumbies why would you come to this thread to post something that Hamas has done ?

are you trying to minimise what Palestinians are going through? Specially when many of the things we are posting here are pre 7-10?

Brumbies · 21/11/2023 07:48

Hamas uses hospitals and other protected places like schools and mosques for terrorist purposes. Since 2006, when the terror group took over the Gaza Strip, we have seen report after report showing just that.
Back then, an American Public Broadcasting Service documentary showed Hamas gunmen prowling the corridors of Al-shifa Hospital, intimidating staff and denying access to protected areas. In 2014, a Washington Post journalist reported that the hospital “has become a de facto headquarters for Hamas leaders”. In 2015, Amnesty International said that Hamas interrogated and tortured prisoners in Al-shifa.
Yet since Israel launched its ground invasion of Gaza, this has suddenly come into question. IDF explanations for raids into civilian buildings, especially hospitals, have been treated with disbelief and even hostility. This is despite CCTV images of hostages being rushed around the Al-shifa hospital, and evidence of a tunnel leading underground from within the complex. Captured Hamas terrorists have confirmed the use of hospitals for their terrorist cause and even Yahya Sinwar, the leader of Hamas in Gaza, admitted in a speech in 2021 that the group used civilian infrastructure for military purposes.
Chief among those questioning what ought to be clear facts, inevitably, has been the BBC and its international editor, Jeremy Bowen. After the IDF displayed weapons seized at Al-shifa, he gave an on-air diatribe implying that this was not convincing evidence that Hamas had a base in the hospital. He even suggested the pile of weapons could belong to the “security department”. Perhaps it is a coincidence that Bowen’s claim directly echoed the words of a senior Hamas terrorist on Al Jazeera two days earlier.
US intelligence confirms Al-shifa has been used as a military headquarters. But terminology used by the White House national security spokesman, John Kirby, that it housed a command “node” rather than a command centre as the Israelis described it, suggests a desire to underplay its significance. It’s hard to understand such pedantry when any military use of a hospital is illegal under the laws of war and renders an otherwise protected site a legitimate target for combat operations.
This has much broader implications for this war. Many people don’t want to believe the Israelis; it seems they would rather believe Hamas. Media outlets often caveat announcements by the IDF, pointedly saying that what they claim cannot be independently verified. Rarely, however, are reports from Gaza questioned in such a way, when every word coming from any part of the Strip that is still dominated by Hamas should be seen as being spoken under duress, whether by journalists, doctors or UN officials. Very often casualty figures from the Gaza Health Ministry are treated as if they come from the NHS, even though it is well understood that the ministry is ruthlessly controlled by Hamas.
Those who are pressing for a ceasefire weaponise Hamas’s casualty statistics. They ignore the reality that Hamas habitually has not only inflated these figures but also made no distinction between deaths of uninvolved civilians and terrorist fighters. Nor, of course, do they separate out casualties caused by their own rockets, of which a significant proportion have fallen short into Gaza since the war began. The IDF has been exclusively targeting terrorists, and although civilian casualties are tragically inevitable given Hamas’s use of human shields, there is no doubt that a high proportion of the reported deaths have been fighters.
The cynical agenda that lies behind blind acceptance of Hamas’s casualty figures accounts for the growing narrative that, despite years of evidence, Hamas miraculously no longer uses hospitals as military facilities and Israel is attacking such places without justification. Quite why the IDF would risk its own soldiers’ lives for no military purpose, as well as suffering the inevitable international opprobrium associated with operations in and around hospitals, is never explained.
Many who distort these realities to call for a ceasefire may be well meaning, but in practice they are saying Israel should stop defending its population and Hamas should live to fight another day. That is extremely dangerous.
Both the British and American governments have given the strongest support to Israel since the atrocities of October 7, and have rejected these demands for a ceasefire. But they ought to be going further, helping to educate the public and counteract Hamas’s disinformation.
There are lessons here from our approach to the war in Ukraine, for example with the Mod’s daily briefings, which both puts the war into its real context and dispels Russian propaganda. Instead, when threatened with terrorists, our political leaders seem happier to take the terrorists’ side in the media war, playing into Hamas’s hands by virtue-signalling implications that Israel is not adhering to the laws of war and is inflicting unnecessary civilian casualties when they know that this is not true.

EasterIssland · 21/11/2023 07:50

Right. So you’re here just to derail. Understood

Brumbies · 21/11/2023 08:05

I'm here to show some perspective to the situation.

Brumbies · 21/11/2023 08:06

Don't like it? Don't read it! Bury your head in the sand.

Pizdietz · 21/11/2023 08:16

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EasterIssland · 21/11/2023 08:16

Brumbies · 21/11/2023 08:05

I'm here to show some perspective to the situation.

Sure you’re. You are right. I’ll ignore you

EasterIssland · 21/11/2023 08:17

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Sure because talking about tortures is a party. Don’t think it’s a happy party for those involve

treeees · 21/11/2023 09:12

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/

In Gaza, the illegal Israeli blockade entered its 16th year. According to Gaza-based human rights organization Al-Mezan, nine patients, including three children, died while waiting for Israeli permits to receive life-saving treatment outside of the Gaza Strip, amid a complex bureaucratic entanglement between Israel, the Palestinian Authority and the Hamas administration.

Human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories

Stay up to date on the state of human rights in Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories with the latest research, campaigns and education material from Amnesty International.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories

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treeees · 21/11/2023 09:16

https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/18078al/snippets_of_israelis_including_idf_calling/

Video snippets of Israelis including IDF calling Palestinians the n word and talking of destruction, occupation and settlement inside Gaza.

treeees · 21/11/2023 09:19

Israeli Finance Minister says he agrees with every word in a column which states that women are part of "Hamas infrastructure" by having babies with Gazan men and therefore must be destroyed by epidemics.

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture
treeees · 21/11/2023 09:20

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/solitary-confinement-turns-palestinian-inmate-into-mental-wreck/2217873

Life had come to a standstill for Yousef Shahateet, 73, and his wife in 2004, when their 17-year old son Mansour was arrested by the Israeli security agencies.

But, more shock was in store for the elderly couple when their son, released on April 11 after spending 17 years in Israeli prisons, could not recognize them.
The years of solitary confinement had turned Mansour into a psychological wreck.

After two years of trial, the Israeli court had sentenced him to 17 years of imprisonment on charges of stabbing an Israeli settler.

His mother said he had stopped recognizing faces some years ago, as he was put in solitary confinement.

She recalled that when once a jailer allowed her to meet him face-to-face instead of behind glass walls, he looked at her with blank eyes, even when she hugged him.

The shocked mother had been running from pillar to post over the past years, pleading international organizations to intervene and help end the solitary confinement of her son.

"When we met him, he wasn't able to stand on his feet, he was leaning over his brothers. All of us cried when he said on his first freedom hour that all his pains were for freedom and homeland," said Yousef.

Solitary confinement turns Palestinian inmate into mental wreck

Released recently after spending 17 years in Israeli prisons, Mansour fails to recognize family members - Anadolu Ajansı

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/solitary-confinement-turns-palestinian-inmate-into-mental-wreck/2217873

treeees · 21/11/2023 09:22

'We Are Too Humane. Burn Gaza Now,' Says Senior Israeli Lawmaker

Deputy Knesset Speaker Nissim Vaturi is one of many Israeli leaders who have made genocidal statements against Palestinians.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/gaza-genocide

'We Are Too Humane. Burn Gaza Now,' Says Senior Israeli Lawmaker

Deputy Knesset Speaker Nissim Vaturi is one of many Israeli leaders who have made genocidal statements against Palestinians.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/gaza-genocide

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 21/11/2023 09:25

@treeees you know what is comical. Israel have no culture and have to steal and change middle Eastern cultures. Their music, their dancing recently has all been copied. Yet they don't like those from the middle East. 'Israeli' dishes are actually middle Eastern dishes etc. Sad really.

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 21/11/2023 09:28

@treeees hate Arabs but also want to be Arab. The ultimate jealousy

etmoiandme · 21/11/2023 09:29

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 21/11/2023 09:25

@treeees you know what is comical. Israel have no culture and have to steal and change middle Eastern cultures. Their music, their dancing recently has all been copied. Yet they don't like those from the middle East. 'Israeli' dishes are actually middle Eastern dishes etc. Sad really.

You're really showing your ignorance here. At best.

treeees · 21/11/2023 09:31

@Fairtobefairohhhhhc I mean absolutely it's ok share, create and enjoy the same food and art, but to deprive Palestinians of their cultural heritage is really sad.

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 21/11/2023 09:33

@etmoiandme OK, please educate me so I can no longer be ignorant