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Conflict in the Middle East

Documenting Israeli army racism and torture

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Desertrose2023 · 15/11/2023 04:25

this thread is to document the racist, criminal and dehumanizing behaviour by the most “moral army in the world” both during its most recent bombardment of Gaza and across decades of military occupation in the West Bank.

to start, here is a video of Israeli soldiers chanting they will turn Gazans into Kebabs.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czjm8bYu-_X/?igshid=MXB0Yzl2NDFpcWx5aQ==

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czjm8bYu-_X/?igshid=MXB0Yzl2NDFpcWx5aQ==

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PurpleCrocs3 · 17/11/2023 07:17

noblegiraffe · 17/11/2023 07:11

I see, so now will you stop going around casting doubt on the fact that there is lots of video evidence of the terrorist attacks of 7th October?

I am not casting doubt. I literally said I believe all the video evidence.

Anything not in the video evidence is what I'm sceptical about. Because the Israeli government has lied so much, it's difficult to figure out when they are telling the truth.

noblegiraffe · 17/11/2023 07:28

So when you said "Yes, they're really clutching at straws now with their faux outrage and their piles of evidence they insist they have that they can't share with us because it's just too distressing.

Meanwhile you can't scroll on twitter for more than 2 seconds without seeing a video of a dead Palestinian child."

You didn't mean to suggest that there isn't actually piles of evidence of terrorist atrocities by Hamas simply because you haven't personally seen it on twitter and that you do accept there is piles of evidence?

Desertrose2023 · 17/11/2023 07:42

this is a video of a celebratory performance for Israeli soldiers including racist chants by Israeli soldiers calling Gaza a “whore” and “black woman”

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzrY-80JoRv/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzrY-80JoRv/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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PurpleCrocs3 · 17/11/2023 07:45

I accept that there is video evidence of Hamas committing atrocities.

I also think there are a lot of claims being made that aren't in the videos ie. 40 beheaded babies, a pregnant woman having her baby cut out of her stomach etc.

I'm not saying that these things didn't happen but what I am saying is that I am hesitant to believe anything the Israeli government says without independent verification from a credible source. I don't think that's an unreasonable position to take.

OuiOuiKitty · 17/11/2023 07:45

Desertrose2023 · 17/11/2023 07:42

this is a video of a celebratory performance for Israeli soldiers including racist chants by Israeli soldiers calling Gaza a “whore” and “black woman”

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzrY-80JoRv/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

I saw this yesterday. It's so childish and gross, they've the combined IQs of a field of potatoes. So embarrassing Israelis that this is what represents them.

Desertrose2023 · 17/11/2023 08:50

OuiOuiKitty · 17/11/2023 07:45

I saw this yesterday. It's so childish and gross, they've the combined IQs of a field of potatoes. So embarrassing Israelis that this is what represents them.

thank you, yes you’re right it is embarrassing and shameful. These are representatives of a State as members of its official army. Can you imagine if these were British soldiers celebrating this disgusting racist language and rhetoric ? There would be an international outcry and severe reputational damage for Britain. People would have been disciplined and there would be accountability demanded. Unfortunately, this type of behavior is just business as usual for the Israeli army.

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Parkingt111 · 17/11/2023 09:00

@Desertrose2023 that video of the elderly grandmother was extremely sad. I hope she is ok now

Desertrose2023 · 17/11/2023 09:12

Parkingt111 · 17/11/2023 09:00

@Desertrose2023 that video of the elderly grandmother was extremely sad. I hope she is ok now

Me too, the poor woman can barely walk I just pray she is safe.

it’s been quite a common tactic of the Israeli army to arrest family members who have done nothing wrong either to put pressure on those they are looking for or sometimes merely as collective punishment. Here’s a report by an Israeli human rights organization which highlights this practice:

https://www.btselem.org/routine_founded_on_violence/20181111_palestinians_arrested_to_pressure_relatives

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Desertrose2023 · 17/11/2023 09:15

Punitive house demolitions by Israel - to punish those for the acts of their family members- is also a well known tactic by the Israeli military.

these atrocities have been ongoing for decades - long before 0ct 7.

https://www.btselem.org/publications/summaries/200411_punitive_house_demolitions

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Parkingt111 · 17/11/2023 09:23

@Desertrose2023 that's terrible. So holding other family members at ransom even the vulnerable to pressure the ones they want to turn themselves in??
Isn't that illegal? I knew things were pretty bad in the occupied West bank but since the war started it has really highlighted how it is actually alot worse than most people knew of.

Parkingt111 · 17/11/2023 09:35

Desertrose2023 · 17/11/2023 05:24

Here’s another charming video of the Israeli army in a primary school in Gaza, expressing more of their genocidal intent to reclaim the ‘promised land’ and Gush Katif. Lovely !

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czun4ayoZQ_/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

In this video you see him throwing the child's certificate and hanging an orange ribbon whilst spouting his vile words
The orange ribbon was the symbol of protestors who had to leave occupied Gaza. Its obvious that the hope of these soldiers is to re-occupy once again. Its extremely distasteful and to add insult to injury it is in a child's classroom.

Desertrose2023 · 17/11/2023 09:42

The orange ribbon was the symbol of protestors who had to leave occupied Gaza.

I didn’t know that, thanks for providing that further context @Parkingt111

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Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 17/11/2023 11:24

Not the IDF but a TV presenter warning anyone who defends palestine that we and the Arab world are next!

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czsg4NyI8Gi/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czsg4NyI8Gi?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D

Desertrose2023 · 17/11/2023 11:53

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 17/11/2023 11:24

Not the IDF but a TV presenter warning anyone who defends palestine that we and the Arab world are next!

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czsg4NyI8Gi/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

That is chilling.

can you imagine if a mainstream news broadcaster on an Arab network said that ? It’s really unbelievable how these types of statements are not more widely reported on and challenged by Western media.

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ScrollingLeaves · 17/11/2023 12:17

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · Today 11:24

Not the IDF but a TV presenter warning anyone who defends palestine that we and the Arab world are next!

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czsg4NyI8Gi/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

That man is so awful, and so much the equivalent of that Hamas monster who said they’d do Oct 7 again and again, that it does the Israeli image huge harm. So much so you’d think he’d have been sacked.

Do you think this is real?

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czsg4NyI8Gi?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · 17/11/2023 12:23

@ScrollingLeaves I do think it's real.

And regardless. If it isn't on their tv, he is still a known person and saying it.

Do you mean, do I think it's Ai?

No, I think it's real

ScrollingLeaves · 17/11/2023 12:36

Fairtobefairohhhhhc · Today 12:23

ScrollingLeaves I do think it's real.

And regardless. If it isn't on their tv, he is still a known person and saying it.

*Do you mean, do I think it's Ai+?

No, I think it's real

Thanks, I am sure you must be right. But I simply cannot understand why he’s been allowed to put this out by the Western-support seeking State of Israel.

I have definitely seen (2022 when following closely) individual similarly rabid Russian TV hosts on Russian chat shows shouting death to Ukraine.

As we see this man on his own, I did wonder about AI, yes.

By the way, do people remember a few faked videos does with discoveries of Ukrainian Nazi dens complete with weapons and insignia the Russians put out?

petuniasandpetals · 17/11/2023 12:52

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Desertrose2023 · 17/11/2023 12:59

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your banal comment could apply to the hundreds of threads on here. I personally think it’s important to draw attention to the actions of the Israeli army which many posters may not be familiar with. This is especially important in light of the excuses and language Israel is using to justify its current genocide.

you clearly don’t think that so may I suggest you kindly exit the thread if you consider it such a waste of time ?

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Alltheprettyseahorses · 17/11/2023 13:04

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This sums it up perfectly.

Desertrose2023 · 17/11/2023 13:05

Alltheprettyseahorses · 17/11/2023 13:04

This sums it up perfectly.

Ok bye 👋

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feralunderclass · 17/11/2023 13:11

Parkingt111 · 17/11/2023 09:23

@Desertrose2023 that's terrible. So holding other family members at ransom even the vulnerable to pressure the ones they want to turn themselves in??
Isn't that illegal? I knew things were pretty bad in the occupied West bank but since the war started it has really highlighted how it is actually alot worse than most people knew of.

It's a form of 'human shields'. The evidence is there that Israel have used this tactic for decades, much more than Hamas (Amnesty International).

Brumbies · 17/11/2023 13:13

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I agree. And those spouting 'knowledge' really have no idea.

feralunderclass · 17/11/2023 13:15

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This is most disrespectful to the dead and injured, on either side, but it would appear you are triggered by posts highlighting the plight of Palestinians. Anybody can find anything on the atrocities online. Yes they can, does that mean we are not allowed to talk about it? Why are you even on here then?

PurpleCrocs3 · 17/11/2023 13:24

They're just spiralling because people are finally learning the truth about how evil the Israeli government is.

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