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Conflict in the Middle East

Illegal settlements

345 replies

immigrant002 · 04/11/2023 17:32

I just watched a piece on itv and sky news how Palestinians are abandoning their houses in the west bank as they face severe intimidation by settlers and army forces

The reporter says the settlements are illegal they are universally accepted as illegal so my question is why is nobody doing anything ??
What is the purpose of international law and the UN ? Is it just Israel that gets away with is ?

I just don't see what the point of saying something is illegal but continuing to build more and more settlements for people from
US kicking Palestinians out of their homes ? Why are they getting away with this ?

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Parkingt111 · 13/04/2024 16:20

From the article

Some were in IDF uniforms and holding guns. There were 20 or 30 of them who beat me as I shouted for help, hoping that soldiers would hear me. But they were the soldiers… I laid on the floor, as every one of them kicked me in the head and stomach,” Golan says.
“They left me stripped and threw my motorcycle keys into the fire, so I’d have no way to get home. They had hate in their eyes,” he says

Finallyloggedin · 13/04/2024 19:37

https://x.com/sahouraxo/status/1779199252553490659?s=61&t=nilGqPeurpC5xVqZAZdZog

Video of the West Bank under attack. Armed Israeli settler groups apparently burning entire Palestinian villages to the ground.

Scirocco · 13/04/2024 19:59

I hope the world finally watches and sees what this is.

HeidiInTheBigCity · 13/04/2024 20:18

Utterly vile - and still ongoing! There seems to be a new village every hour or so [or that's what it feels like, I don't mean this literally!] In the Ramallah, Nablus and Hebron regions.

The village next to where my ex-PIL live is now coming under attack. We are, obviously, beyond worried about XH's family, especially his elderly parents but also his brothers and their kids!

Scirocco · 13/04/2024 20:19

Oh, no, @HeidiInTheBigCity , I hope they manage to stay safe.

EasterIssland · 13/04/2024 20:30

Sorry to hear that. Hope they are safe @HeidiInTheBigCity

HeidiInTheBigCity · 13/04/2024 20:30

I'm not religious but ...

إن شاء الله

HeidiInTheBigCity · 13/04/2024 20:32

(I probably spelled this wrong - my spoken dialect is a lot better than my written fusha, a and I also swear a lot better than I do pious!)

Scirocco · 13/04/2024 20:37

You spelled it just fine, and intention matters most. I'll make dua for them.

HeidiInTheBigCity · 13/04/2024 20:38

Scirocco · 13/04/2024 20:37

You spelled it just fine, and intention matters most. I'll make dua for them.

That's kind of you!

EasterIssland · 13/04/2024 22:49

Herds of settlers are now attacking the village of Beit Sakarya, south of Bethlehem. The village is surrounded by the Gush Etzion settlements

https://twitter.com/galebsami/status/1779243256695398686

https://twitter.com/galebsami/status/1779243256695398686

HeidiInTheBigCity · 13/04/2024 22:58

Ex-PIL have evacuated to [nearest larger city] upon urging from XH and, literally, myself, too, calling them and pleading. They are staying at a cushy hotel paid by yours truly for a while.

BILs and families are still around - they dont want to leave, and neither do XH or I want them to. We're both "pro people we love" not "pro ethnic cleansing". Situation still sketchy. But none of them are as immobile as elderly ex-PIL, so they'll be in a much better position.

Scirocco · 14/04/2024 01:09

HeidiInTheBigCity · 13/04/2024 22:58

Ex-PIL have evacuated to [nearest larger city] upon urging from XH and, literally, myself, too, calling them and pleading. They are staying at a cushy hotel paid by yours truly for a while.

BILs and families are still around - they dont want to leave, and neither do XH or I want them to. We're both "pro people we love" not "pro ethnic cleansing". Situation still sketchy. But none of them are as immobile as elderly ex-PIL, so they'll be in a much better position.

I'm hoping and praying for them all. Thank goodness your ex-PIL have got to safety.

Finallyloggedin · 14/04/2024 16:22

I hope your family are ok @HeidiInTheBigCity

EasterIssland · 15/04/2024 18:01

This elderly Palestinian old man is in tears after Israeli settlers cut down his 300 olive trees and ordered him to vacate from his own farm.

https://twitter.com/Kahlissee/status/1778898508377915508

https://twitter.com/Kahlissee/status/1778898508377915508

HeidiInTheBigCity · 15/04/2024 21:40

EasterIssland · 15/04/2024 18:01

This elderly Palestinian old man is in tears after Israeli settlers cut down his 300 olive trees and ordered him to vacate from his own farm.

https://twitter.com/Kahlissee/status/1778898508377915508

I find this hard to watch!

It reminds me of how much my ex-FIL cried over his orange orchard when settlers took it over and prevented him from entering it. Being the presumably unassailable white blonde European that I am: I tried ... and I have been sporting a dashing scar from "where I was hit in the face by a stone thrown at me" ever since.

That was years ago now!

May my ex-FIL's lovely, juicy, sweet Oranges grow small and green and sour! The people who stole that orchard: they didn't plant that orchard, they didn't foster and prune and graft those trees from saplings to fruit bearing. That lovely man did, and it broke his heart to lose them!

May the thieves find their ill-gained fruit small, green, and bitter! And may their produce find a BDS sticker slapped on it wherever they try to sell it abroad!

Dulra · 17/04/2024 09:48

HeidiInTheBigCity · 15/04/2024 21:40

I find this hard to watch!

It reminds me of how much my ex-FIL cried over his orange orchard when settlers took it over and prevented him from entering it. Being the presumably unassailable white blonde European that I am: I tried ... and I have been sporting a dashing scar from "where I was hit in the face by a stone thrown at me" ever since.

That was years ago now!

May my ex-FIL's lovely, juicy, sweet Oranges grow small and green and sour! The people who stole that orchard: they didn't plant that orchard, they didn't foster and prune and graft those trees from saplings to fruit bearing. That lovely man did, and it broke his heart to lose them!

May the thieves find their ill-gained fruit small, green, and bitter! And may their produce find a BDS sticker slapped on it wherever they try to sell it abroad!

I have been away so just catching up with things. I hope your xpil are doing ok so good of you to help them with their evacuation but horrendous they were forced to.

That video of the elderly man is heartbreaking, at his stage of life he should be able to relax and enjoy what time he has left not face this kind of harassment and terror. These people are nothing more than state sponsored yobs running rampant through an area like animals. Any other democratic state they would be rounded up and dealt with, not supported. Very reminiscent of the blind eye (and state support) for the actions of the KKK in the deep south back in the 20s

MushMonster · 19/04/2024 07:15

Have you ever seeing this debate?
It was 11 years ago.
There is a poll on the opinion of attendees at the beginning and end of the presentations.
It was 11 years ago. I think what we are seeing today with public opinion follows the trend in this video indeed, 11 years later!

Israel is destroying itself with its settlement policy

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https://youtu.be/6Rk60vNUJ9Y?feature=shared

EasterIssland · 19/04/2024 13:37

is this true ? Has he announced settlement in Gaza ? Is he announcing colonising a land that doesn’t belong to him? Was this the reason for the war ?
https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1780838019421077725

https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1780838019421077725

Toothyfruity · 19/04/2024 13:46

EasterIssland · 19/04/2024 13:37

is this true ? Has he announced settlement in Gaza ? Is he announcing colonising a land that doesn’t belong to him? Was this the reason for the war ?
https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1780838019421077725

I see on social media that people are saying the translation is incorrect and he is announcing funding for Israeli areas near Gaza.

I don't speak the language so I don't have a clue either way but I suspect it's a mistranslation.

EasterIssland · 19/04/2024 13:54

Toothyfruity · 19/04/2024 13:46

I see on social media that people are saying the translation is incorrect and he is announcing funding for Israeli areas near Gaza.

I don't speak the language so I don't have a clue either way but I suspect it's a mistranslation.

thanks I wasn’t sure and can’t find much hence why i wanted to check

Decemberdaily · 19/04/2024 15:08

sounded like he said otef aza which is the gaza envelope, to rebuild the area damaged on oct 7 and damaged by military vehicles (not in gaza)
https://www.timesofisrael.com/government-approves-framework-for-nis-19-billion-plan-to-rehabilitate-area-near-gaza/