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Hear Hamas Official in his own words and understand why Israel is doing what it has to:
We will Repeat The October 7 Attack, Time And Again, Until Israel Is Annihilated.
https://www.memri.org/reports/hamas-official-ghazi-hamad-we-will-repeat-october-7-attack-time-and-again-until-israel

You do know Hamas are also bad people don’t you?

@amylou8 and @Redlarge

Look at @Torwenn posts before they get deleted where they say they support Hamas and the destruction of Israel

Can you not discuss without being rude? I asked whether you supported the murders on 7/10. You responded with referrences to atrocities committed by the IDF. That's doesn't answer the question.

I'm asking whether you support Hamas' slaughter, don't believe it happened or mean something else by 'supporting Hamas' (mainly because I'm agog that anyone could think what they did was justifiable)?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzKQ87DLDEP/?igshid=Y2NkYjk0MDhjYg==
this is what the IDF do

@backtowinter so much for there aren't any. I bet they aren't normal Mumsnet clientele either....

No, it's a brand new poster who has presumably joined/NC just to espouse how great Hamas are.

Righto. Not sure why you were so agressive when I'd correctly guessed your position.

There are lots of videos of the murders available online (mostly posted by Hamas). Have you looked at those? Do you think they are all fake?

According to the United Nations and Save the Children, actually.

There are countless videos, photos and live footage online. Israel is slaughtering innocent people and children by the thousands. When you can shrug at that, cry whataboutery or claim complete ignorance because you haven’t bothered to search online for footage (Instagram, it’s not difficult) then you have lost all humanity.

@Torwenn neither you or your bullshit conspiracy theories are welcome here.

Sorry, am I supposed to only have an opinion after being here an arbitrary time? Didn’t see that in the registration rules.

Not at all.

The thread is about whether people in general are making excuses for/supporting Hamas. We often get new posters joining to post extreme views. I'd be more accepting of the idea that a significant part of the UK population support Hamas if you were a long term poster. I'm currently still inclined to think it's a very unusual position.

Jolly glad you find the murder of innocent people by terrorists “comical”

Misquoting by those who want to ignore the indiscriminate genocide and ruin of a nation... yet again.

Ask yourself this. You’ve got two and a hapf million people, mostly young men and children who have known nothing but Gaza’s poverty. Then on the 7th, the Hamas armed brigades perform a mission that breaks down completely that walled prison perimeter while they go about getting leverage for what was to come. Are you at all surprised that, maybe, some of those angry youths went and committed those acts?

No. I'm not. You won't find a single post from me defending Israel's behaviour. It's like the Israeli (former) peace activist I referenced upthread- people who've suffered react in anger. Gaza is a gigantic Ghetto.

But I think there is overwhelming evidence that the slaughter on 7/10 was real and it can't possibly be justified.

All we are seeing is the embodiment of 'an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind'. Wanting Israel destroyed isn't just wrong, it's a laughably unachieveable goal. All that happens from all this hate is that more innocents suffer.

Proportionality? War crimes? Genocide, mass murder are not self defence.

This person freely admits that they support Hamas so don’t give me that shit I haven’t misquoted them at all.

People are supporting Palestinians and feel shocked and helpless at the war crimes, collective punishment and mass murder.