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randomimposter · 22/06/2010 19:55

Just to start us off.

May this be a happy and lucky thread for all of us.

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SassySusan · 22/08/2010 20:54

Hippy No, yanbu I once fell out spectuacularly with a bf for texting at the table. When I have spent 2 hours cooking dinner, I exepct people to sit down and pay it/me attention!

OMG lunatic I read your post:
"So shock and ow here"
I have been off sick for a while, cruising the relationship boards, so interpreted this as:
SHOCK an Other Woman Here...

And I thought B'STARD - she's pg, they have a 4 year old - HOW COULD HE? Then when you proceeeded to describe your knee pain, it began to sink in that maybe DH hadn't been unfaithful...

Anyway on the up side... We are going to Bali... woooo hooooooo

galwaygal · 22/08/2010 21:57

Sassy - sorry I just pmsl, with reading about lunatics other woman issue!!! Grin Sorry lunatic, it just was a little funny. I really was sorry to hear about your OW gout!

Anyway BALI - yippy - love it, always wanted to go, been to oz twice and always regretted not going to Bali on route. I know we will being all our bundles of joy, but can we leave the unco=operative dh's at home ??????

Hippy - sorry to hear your dh was being so mean. I think you are being a little mean to waft pudding under your dh's nose, but then I am dieting so would run for the hills too. but he is being very unreasonable for not staying and putting in family time after all your effort. Hope is cools down and apologieses soon.

It looks like we are all a load of lushes here with our wonderful need for the brain-numbing drinks. I wish I could join in but I am determined to keep on the straight and narrow for my diet at the moment.

Anyway, think I might go and seduce my hubby now before I go away for the week again..... Will try to log on while at work if I can.

Diege · 22/08/2010 22:21

Good luck with the seduction Galwaygirl Grin
Hippy I have been hyperventilating reading your post (and not in a good way) I can't believe your dh can't see how unreasonable he's being Angry. What is it with men and toilets??? What reason did he give for not coming back to the table??? Good job SWI is out of the way,eh - def no shagging for him!!!!
LOL Sassy at the other woman- now you've said it I can't read Lunatic's post any other way Grin
Oh and Hippy thanks for ov advice.Have done the deed,so will await the temp rise in a few days...first month I've temped,so will be interesting to see if it does what it should.
Night all!

SassySusan · 22/08/2010 22:32

Diege wrote:
"remember that the chances of you conceiving(and having a successful pregnancy) are far greater than not (esp with your rampant shagging )"

oohhh... I do like this phrase... does it apply to me too.. (hopeless reassurance fishing here...)

gumblossom · 23/08/2010 01:17

It is true, Sassy, you have a great chance of conceiving. IT WILL HAPPEN!

Well, no double lines for me today. Bah...humbug. Still, it isn't over yet. At least the early testing is helping my letdown.It won't be such a blow when/if AF turns up. I'm aware that my LP may even lengthen because I've been taking B6, so I won't even get excited if AF doesn't turn up as expected.

It remains to be seen...

Hippy, I too would be pee-ed off about your DH leaving the table when you'd gone to that effort. I too think that all the family at the table is really important.

We had the party yesterday.I took some paracetemol and it really helped.I also had an afternoon nap and woke feeling so much better.

I'll put in a link, so you can see my lovely boy and his funny cake (my attempt at pingu):
angieathome.blogspot.com/2010/08/charlie-is-two.html

Italiangreyhound · 23/08/2010 02:55

Hi all

SasySusan so sorry you were having a bad day on Saturday, I hope by now you are feeling a little better. It is weird that someone came up and spoke to you at the graveside. I am guessing that he too was there visiting a grave (unless he was lost!) and so maybe he just wanted to speak to someone. Maybe he was helping himself by immersing himself in your situation. Grief hits people differently, maybe some want to be alone and others want to talk. I think it was kind of you to give him the time of day and talk to him, I am sure you helped him. I think people just say things that can be insensitive, when faced with very sad situations, because they just don?t know what to say. Some people actually avoid others when they don?t know what to say. I?m not sure what is worse; to be avoided or have the risk that someone will come out with something silly! I hope you won?t feel weighed down with other people?s expectations about what you should do. Lots of people seem to want me to move on from fertility treatment and I was trying to be ready to but I felt so much better once I made the decision that I was not ready yet to move on. At first I though I needed to tell everyone but hubby (like people I have been talking about adoption with) but hubby, who can be wise, said I did not need to tell everyone everything. Sometimes it is good to keep a bit back just for over selves and not feel we need to share all of it with others. I agree Mumsnet is a good place to share and get positive feedback! Long rambling post, hope you know what I mean Sassy.

Hippy that does sound very weird, ricocheting off sofa etc; you must be very nibble to be able to do it. Also, that does sound very rude (DH missing from table!). I think once the dust settles it is time for a nice chat about how it makes you feel to be stuck at the table with kids while he is off,. We can?t help our bowel movements (I am one of the brigade that gets very little warning, sorry TMI) but that is no excuse to be missing in action. I wonder if he just does not realise how much it upsets you. I do sympathise as I left the table twice tonight! Once to chat to a friend on the doorstep for 10 mins and once to be on the phone to my sis. My hubby was probably not amused with me! Hope the dust can all settle before next time you need to swi!!

I write sperm with an because where I work there is a very high level spam catcher that catches everything and I just get used to writing Sx and Sp*rm etc!! ? Not that I am writing about it all day!

Jollster you do make me laugh, I too have always thought of gout affecting fat old port swilling (rich) men! Thinking of you, hon.

Gum all the best in your hot sunny clime.

Alba Nice to hear from you.

Diege I am losing the plot, where abouts are you and did that book do any good, did you read it?

Frost are you still lurking?

I am sorry that there are so many comments and postings and I must get to bed so no time to name check you all but you know who you are!

It has been a weird week. I had the most agonising pain in my tooth and jaw, which also resounded into my ear. I had medication from dentist and pain killers but the only thing that worked was putting my hubby's gel filled cool bandage onto the jaw. It is not really like anything I have ever experienced. It was coming and going like contractions but about an hour apart! I ended up having root canal work last week!

Yesterday we went to church and I got some prayer for my ear, which was affected by the bad tooth, I also mentioned my fertility issues. The lady who prayed for me was a dear older lady and she held my hand. I said should I give up hope or carry on having hope, and the lady praying for me just held my hands and said we are always encouraged to have hope, faith and hope.

I am feeling so much better about the whole fertility thing. Kind of allow whatever happens to happen but keep taking the Agnus Castus and moving up the line, we are just a bit shy of a nine month wait now!

Love to all

Italiangreyhound · 23/08/2010 03:05

Sorry, Jolly I did not mean that fat rich men make me think of you!

Sassy sorry for such a long post, I just remember a lady getting talking to me when we were at the crematorium after my dad died, she was arranging flowers and told us how often she came there. It makes me think that those type of places encourage people to talk maybe in a way they would not in normal life - that they feel a connection to other people at the crematorium or graveyard, that was all I meant!

Hippy I am wondering if you could make your desserts less tempting! Like beetroot gateaux or something! (Yes there really is a recipe for beetroot cake!!)

Galwaygirl where exactly are you now?

Diege · 23/08/2010 09:53

Morning! Yes, Sassy the more chances than not statement is good for us all!!!(I think it diminishes a little when you hit 47 yrs plus, but even then there's still a chance). Does anyone read The Guardian on a Saturday? I love the 48 and pregnant with no.5 column in the family section (baby now born). I think Italian's comments are useful too Sassy re: the graveside comments,however upsetting they were received. I am fortunate enough not to have really experienced grief,other than for mmc, and am someone of an avoider when others are bereaved which I know is awful, but due to fear of saying the wrong thing.Hope you're feeling ok - I don't know your background, but have picked up bits from here to get a sense of what happened Sad.
Italian you sound very positive and back to your old self, though I do sympathise on the tooth ache front,how awful. Are you feeling relief now that you've had the root canal done?
Re: where I'm up to, well who knows! Maybe you or others can advise...On cd 13, had EWM days 9-11,12 at a push. pos opks cd 11 and 12. SWI cd 8,10, 12. Temp rise this morning from 36.44 to 36.58, but not sure if that is remotely significant on my chart as first one I've done. I do feel that I have ovulated, based on EWM/cramps etc. Have stopped taking agnus castus this morning anyway.
Hippy Do you think I've jumped the gun then with the temp rise? Does that constitute a rise oh wise one?Grin
Gum your little boy is gorgeous! What beautiful brown eyes,and great cake too. He looks very pleased with it in the photo Smile. Don't give up hope yet on testing front,though as you say, if not to be then gradual let-down may help.Fingers crossed anyway x

SassySusan · 23/08/2010 16:01

I love the cake... Very Cute Charlie. I love everyone telling me that I have a great chance of conceiving.. I really do like this place...

Thank you Diege Yes, my DD died in April from a sudden, overwhelming infection. We weren't ttc prior to her death. As soon as you tell people your only child has died, an alarming number of people will suggest you have another Confused It's not just people in graveyards - it's strangers, friends, people at bus stops... I would say it happens at least once a day. It's hard to avoid, because nice old ladys at bus stops ask if you have any DCs - and I tend to say... yes, I had a DD. On the other hand, it is a big ego boost, and I clearly look young enough to have a baby Grin I asked the standard little old lady today how old she thought I was - and she said 28! Now, that makes me feel goood..

Italian I'm with your DH on the not telling. I'm generally a pretty loud open person - but I think dealing with everyone else's views and expectations gets a bit much sometimes.

Diege I have no idea about your charting question. But if you believed that sperm was importan to implantation -wouldn't it suggest SWI tomorrow and again on Thursday.

hippychick66 · 23/08/2010 16:26

gum you're little Charlie is so cute. Good job on the cake. Glad to hear your felt well enough to do the party. Pee'd on any good sticks lately????

GG Can i just say for the record - the dessert was fresh fuit salad and low fat ice cream - so hardly the most tempting thing. Not like I was chucking jam tarts at him or the like Grin

italian shame on you for leaving the table twice - lucky you're not my hubbie!!! Wink

Sassy I didn't realise how recent your loss was. I can understand why you tell strangers about Catherine cos you don't want to say that you have no kids because that would be untrue and would not be acknowledging her at all. It is odd that strangers keep telling you to have another. Remember - your chances of having another baby are good (given how quickly you got preg before and the fact that you're a sprightly 40 Envy).

diege maybe you should keep going - that's not a huge temp increase. I hate telling peole to go SWI - it seems so bossy!!!

Unfortunately, SWI is not over here. I'm only on day 10 and haven't had a pos OPK yet. Today should be a SWI day for us but we weren't the best of mates last night. I might have to SWAGOFBSWI (shag with a grimmace on face but still with intent!) Grin

I don't want a silly row to stop us trying this month.

This thread is due some BFP's!!!

Diege · 23/08/2010 16:43

Okaaay, will carry on SWI Tues and Thurs,then it's def slanket time for me. Looking at some of the threads I think, re: my temps, that they may be slowly rising (which is apparently poss) as opposed to a sudden leap. According to CM and opks,ov could possibly have happened by now, but as I'm every other day-ing anyway,not crucial as such that I pinpoint the day. Troops are in place as Hippy would say! I am trying very hard not to get obsessed this month!
Good luck Hippy for your grimacing shag!
Where is everyone else up to days-wise? Should be resurrect The List?

SassySusan · 23/08/2010 17:09

LMFAO @ SWAGOFBSWI

That's a bit of a mouthful!

(Hugs hippy with gay abandon and dances round the room..) so pleased to be called sprightly!

I'm confused about my days Diege What does CD stand for? I assume you're counting days from the date of your last period?? In which case it is day 17 for me, I think. I'm not charting, so I'm guessing ov pain from the day I ovulated - but I suspect that a OPK would go positive before I got the pain - is that right?

Diege · 23/08/2010 17:28

Sassy yes, theoretically it should go(thinking back to what Hippy said yesterday) EWM (egg white mucous), pos opk,ov pain, temp surge if charting.Oh and yes cd = cycle day!

Diege · 23/08/2010 17:30

Hippy,will this - Biscuit be your face tonight??? Wink

SassySusan · 23/08/2010 17:57

Thank you Diege

Does anyone else think there is something vaguely unglamorous about having to pee on a stick?

(wanders away muttering....)

Diege · 23/08/2010 18:41

Ooh no Sassy I really enjoy the whole process,opks especially. I sadly imagine they are pregnancy ones,esp when I know I'm close to ovulation and will get a line of some sort Blush

hippychick66 · 23/08/2010 20:28

Bah humbug - positive on an OPK tonight so will have to bloody shag the git Wink

We did sort of make up, although we are still at the stage where we think we are both right - you've all been there.

I am always amazed at the pos on an OPK. yesterday there was just one line and today = 2 - it's amazing. I'm with diege on this one (and of course our resident pee on a stick girl gum) - i love poas and I also imagine they are preggo ones instead Blush.

Took the boys and a friend to see The Karate Kid today. Call of the dogs - No need to TTC. I have found my next child. I am so gonna adopt Jaden Smith - he is a fab actor and just so cute. The only problem is that in a few years time he will turn into Will Smith and i will just have all kind of naughty thoughts about him. Hmm

sassy they do say that the day you get the pain is not necessarily the day that you actually ovulate. But you are right you would get a pos on an opk about 36 hours before you actually released the egg. I usually find that I do get the pains at that time and then the temp rise the next day. I got a temp dip today which can sometimes mean that you are about to get the LH surge. It's nice to know it's all happening in the right order.

I sat in M&S cafe recently looking at all the ladies and marvelling that we were all at different stages in our cycles (apart from the old dears of course). Someone may have had a teeny tiny embryo inside them and others just had a tampax - very odd thoughts to be having!

hippychick66 · 23/08/2010 20:57

Arrgghh woman in coronation street had an abortion last week and now wants to be pregnant again (don't ask!)

So she's trying to get pregnant asap so boyfriend doesn't know she aborted it. So here she is a week after what was effectively an EPRC telling him she wants to have sex (don't they do their research - who bloody ovuates a week after an abortion???)

Actually, they may have researched but maybe the character is meant to be a bit thick on this subject.

Shut up Hippy. Stop worrying about her and go and shag that bloke you are still mad at Grin

AlbaDeTamble · 23/08/2010 21:30

Hippy, get to it... Best way to get him to apologise for Sunday evening too, unless your DH the type to fall asleep instantly...?

Jolls, thinking of you, and hoping that you're quiet this evening because it's all happening naturally and you won't need tomorrow's ERPC. Can't believe I'm wishing for pain and cramps for you but I hope you know what I mean. If op does go ahead, wishing you a speedy recovery and return to the pg thread, where we miss you

SassySusan · 24/08/2010 08:00

Hippy Well, I'm confused about my surges... so if when I get the pain, we SWI that day and the day after - should that basically do it? (I could get my copy of Taking Charge of my Fertility Out - but this is so much more fun... Confused

Jolly thinking of you today my love - I hope you don't need your appointment. xx

Diege · 24/08/2010 10:51

Morning Smile. Hope you're ok Jollster,thinking of you today x
Sassy, I'd say SWI every other day from a few days before you get ov pains, to be sure you get the troops in place (and then a few days after,groan). So basically every other day from end of af until about 4 days post ovConfused
Hippy, I am invoicing you for a new keyboard after spluttering coffee over this one when reading about your musings in M&S (think it was the tampax ref that did it...)Grin. Oh and in Natasha's defence, she did see her dr. who told her it would be at least a month before she would ov, but she has mental health issues shall we say which result in what happens in a few weeks/months...don't want to say in case you don't want to know GrinBut would love to spill if you don't know!
Well had same temp rise today as yesterday (just under 0.2 c)so am assuming that ov has occured, though will wait for temp tomorrow to confirm. I am now obsessing about low progesterone as the rise is so little, though the ff site does say it can be as small as 0.1 or less,overall pattern is what counts Confused. Have ordered the Taking Charge of your fertility book anyway!

hippychick66 · 24/08/2010 12:16

The book is brillient (especially if you have some flowers that need pressing - it's bloody heavy).

sassy i would recomend it but if you prefer you can just grill us Grin. Sorry if my urges - i mean surges confused you.

  1. EWCM, 2) positive on OPK(caused by LH surge), 3)ov pain, 4) temp rise.

Basically you wanna be SWI every other day as soon as you hit stage 1 and continue until after stage 4 - OK - now get to it Mrs.

diege I'm happy for you to spill the beans about natasha. I did see that the doc told her it could take a month to ovulate - so why is she donning a negligee (sp?) a week after the abortion. And how come she's not still bleeding???

Yes, yes - i know she's not real.Grin

jolly thinking of you today as well. I hope everything is as easy as it can be. Hopefully you are just missing due to lack of internet access. I do agree that there may be similarities between you and GG - eg that you both get preg very easily - what can be done about it though??? It makes me confused cos I want to be preg again asap but then would worry that it was too fast Confused.

As for me. troops are in place for now but will continue tomorrow if no temp rise.

hippychick66 · 24/08/2010 12:27

I got a message from the doctors yesterday saying that she wants me to book ana ppointment so she can talk to me about my blood test results. Now i know that she is probably just gonna say that I'm anneamic or something but of course I imagined that I was actually dying and she needed to break the news in person Blush.

DH said she would probably say come in immediately if she discovered cancer and he also pointed out that he didn't think she was testing for that.

But, you know me. I always imagine the worst. Anyway, i am booked to see my lovely GP on Thursday and find out what the bloody tests showed - wish me luck - gulp!!!

Diege · 24/08/2010 13:18

Ok Hippy you asked...SPOILER AHEAD!!!! Natasha fails to get pregnant again. Nick finds out she been lying about the whole thing, cue mega bow-up which leads Natasha to commit suidiceShock All very sad (I was hoping for some sort of baby-snatch re: Fizz). Bet you wish you hadn't asked now Grin
Good to hear the book I've bought will be useful -got it for £11 new off Amazon,so was thinking it would be quite short. I have to say that e-book I purchased hasn't even been flicked through (other than to establish it was Too Much Effort)
Will have to SW/OI again tonight I think,to cover all bases.Have had a poke at the old cervix (not really my thing ,, but thought I'd try). Tis high and soft so game may still be on,though EWM disappeared on Sun Hmm. Will you be Gof-ing Hippy tonight so that I can get the schedule sorted?Wink

Diege · 24/08/2010 13:21

Sorry Hippy, had old window open so didn't see your last post. Your dh is right - you would be in there this afternoon if it was anything sinister.Anaemia sounds very likely - could you give the gp a ring today to put your mind at rest?

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