Ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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Just to start us off.

May this be a happy and lucky thread for all of us.

Hi all,
Hippy I had the weird bellybutton pain yesterday, but I'm feeling absolutely cr*p today and have absolutely no symptoms, all stopped. I have a horrible feeling this could have been a cp. Can't test until tomorrow evening at the earliest because I am at work early tomorrow, but may as well leave it to Tuesday for best results.
Not feeling very hopeful at all.
Sorry very 'me' post.
And it's bucketing down with rain.
Hippy I think the loss has really hit you very hard, perhaps harder than you like to think. Losing a job isn't exactly a cheering event either. If you keep feeling very down about the miscarriage you could always speak to your GP, they can might be able to organise some counselling.
I think I am going to need some soon!

Rowing everything is crossed for you. I so hope this works.

Hairy what is louise hay? Hope all is well with you.

BeattieBow, please email me and tell me who you are! I am at my name here italiangreyhound plus my pretend age 39 and then at and yahoo and dot and co and uk

Hippy I am sorry this is so hard . I second Rowings suggestion for counselling, I have had some counsellig in the past and it was most helpful, (for anxiety 'attacks' and for fertility issues). It was free from the GP surgery (they referred me) but there can be a wait so I would suggest if you go for it you get your name down if you wish and if you decide later you don't need it then great. Can I also suggest that maybe, just maybe, planting a tree in memory of your little one(s) may help. There is a site at 05FA241 and this site seems to be cheap for planting a tree and has locations all over the country. My DH and I have two trees planted just for fun and we visit our trees, it is just rather nice but can be more meaningful.

Gum all the best to you and to all the others too.

Sorry that site is www.eforests.co.uk/

Morning ladies.
Rowing, I'm sorry to hear you are feeling cr*p. But no sign of AF,right? That's a good sign. I've got everything crossed for you.

Nothing new to report here. I seem to have a bowlful of supplements to take everyday, plus the tea(I bought a blend which has lady's mantle,nettle,red raspberry leaf,red clover etc in it)plus the green boost drink and maca and l-arginine that I have everyday.

There's no room for food or drink!I had got to that point when I got pregnant with last DS. So maybe I do need the help of the sups, or maybe it was just time.

I'm hoping I don't delay O because DH is planning a small trip away with our 17 year old son - to see a football game in the city.A lovely thing to do, but it's around CD 19. I should O by then, but the month before last it was day22.

Not that I'm obsessing or anything!

I hope everyone is feeling okay.

I can't wait for you to test Rowing.

Hello all.

Rowing sorry the signs aren't looking good, but fingers crossed for you all the same.

hippy yes, I'm not too happy it is August now. Am trying not to think about it too much, but I really didn't think I would be un-pg at this stage. I get quite upset when I realise that I should be giving birth, and seeing what a lovely age gap it would have been between ds2 and the baby. and like you, 2 colleagues have just left to go on maternity leave. and someone else I know is unsuccessfully managing to hide her pregnancy at the moment. So it is tough. rant rant!

Italian we didn't talk too much - no need to be paranoid! I was P0lyana (hopefully that will stop me being googled..). my mum decided to stalk me on here which was too much for me so had to name change).

gum I am due to be driving to italy on a mammoth 900 mile trip around ov time! there'll be no swi at that time, so really hoping ov is delayed until I am in relaxing holiday mode (not much chance of even seeing dh before we go on holiday).

Oh and I am confused about my temperatures now. my period (can't bring myself to write af sorry) was only heavy on cd1 this time and finished by cd3. Temp went below coverline (last months) only on cd2 and cd 3 (but v close on cd3). yesterday cd4 it was higher and above the coverline and today (cd5) it is higher still - now above every coverline I've had. Unsurprisingly fertility friend is a bit confused, and so am I. so what is happening? Have I ov'd already? I bloody hope not as no swi has occurred. grr. Any ideas anyone?

beattie is it worth doing another HPT??? Just a thought - don't want to get your hopes up. Lets have a code. If yu get found again by your nosey relatives just come back on with your new name and say Hi everyone, it's cheeky me. And we'll know it's you - ok???

rowing I have no fingernails left. Good luck for tomorrow.

I went to the docs today and she thinks it is a urinary tract infection. Had to give a wee sample and the results will be back on Thursday. The pain is getting worse. i hope it is something simple like that.

I am also having to wee quite a lot so have not been able to do a decent sample for the OPK today. Still I did SWI yesterday so that will do for now.

I am trying not to thnk about the whole due date thing. Thanks for the advise rowing and italian. I think I will be better once the due date has passed (and once I've been to see the two babies that my work colleagues are expecting).

I just need to work through this my own way and will hopefully move on soon.

jolly - where the 'eck are you???

OMG

Just had a text from one of the preggo women who i used to work with. She has had 3 MC's before this pregnancy.

She asked me how I was and I texted back that I was ok, a bit crap cos due date coming up etc and pain from urine infection etc. Her reply was that she is fine and her baby's head is 1/5th engaged so she is definitely getting ready to arrive. Is that a bit of a thoughless reply????? Or is it just me!

Hi all,
guess what, the stoopid hpts haven't turned-up. What a hoot! I still don't have many symptoms, but feel OK at the moment and still have plan C. To be honest I didn't expect this FET to work, and wanted to go straight to the embryo adoption thing, but something did seem to happen, and then nothing.
[shrugs] I hope the tests arrive tomorrow, but it will be too late for FMU and I can't bear the thought of keeping some. [green face - not envious]

Italian sorry I didn't email you yesterday, was feeling extremely sorry for myself and very uncommunicative. If I can help in any way with advice about treatment, I will.

Hippy I'm glad you are working through it. It doesn't help with there are 'significant' dates. I find little things remind me of my nan, who died in March and it brings back the sadness.
Don't know about you, but the prospect of seeing somebody's baby is always worse than actually seeing the baby.
Ooo and cranberry that's supposed to be good for UTI's and drinking gallons of course. Hope you feel better soon, it's not one of the more comfortable ailments is it!

Beattie P0lie, it's you! I did wonder where you were. Oh that's nice you are back, heavily disguised (like the parrot on your shoulder and the hook, can't tell it's you at all )

Gum I so relate to the not having room for food thing. It's a shocker isn't it, swalling all that lot. At least some of it is tea, slightly easier. I forgot red raspberry, that's the tea I was drinking this time: lady's mantle, red raspberry, nettle and a bit of chamomile. Tasted quite nice actually.
I did buy maca, but it was a bit expensive so I gave up on it after one pack.
I realised I had bggred up my LH surge when it was late, so I hit the agnus castus and stopped everything else and it arrived.
You could always stop a day or so before you think your LH surge (I know, tricky question) is due and hit the ag. cast.

Sorry rowing crossed posts.

FMU Wednesday is the plan then I guess.

Oh, I will test when I get the tests, there are five! But will do one on Wednesday as well, just to be on the safe side.

Hi all, just checking in. I am doing ok, but very glad to be busy working for the next few weeks. I will not be able to come onto mn much, so forgive my lack of communication. I am waiting for the blood test results to come back and having good and bad days in terms of the latest m/c. But overall I have had a fantastic time with my family recently and that has helped.

Rowing - I will try to check in in the next couple of days to see your news.

Hippy - sorry to hear you are suffering a UTI, hope it passes soon for you. (and yes the ex-collegue of yours was a bit insensitive!)

Italian - happy for you that you are feeling happier to try again.

Lia - hope you get a scan soon, to give you answers. As you know, symptoms and speculation mean nothing. It is so hard being convinced all is wrong, but not knowing what is the reality. When I had my first pregnancy following a m/c, I was convinced it was all wrong, even at the 14 week scan I was convinced it was all over and that it would be bad news. But it was not. I really hope that you have it wrong at the moment too, and that the scan brings only good news to you. It is so hard being in limbo with early pregnancy.

I am in the interesting time of not monitoring my cycle this time. Post m/c I normally pop back into normal straight away, if that is the case I am back in the 2ww, but I have absolutely no idea this time, it feels great to be in ignorance!

Hello to all I have not mentioned, hope you are doing ok too!

Rowing no worries about not emailing me. I have so many things in my in box, just email when/if you feel like it.

Hippy I hope your infection clears up. I have heard about cranberry juice too, but I believe in good hard drugs from the docs! Yes, your work colleague sounds a bit insensitive but my experience is that pregnant women get a bit cotton wool headed, I've had no end of chats about what they can't eat/drink etc and I know they all know but I just try and ignore it. Hope once their babies are born it will take some of the pressure off. I have never felt as upset seeing other peoples (sometimes ugly!) babies - who often look like friends other halves!

Beattie can't believe your ma knew your name! Anyway, no worries, yes, I remember you.

Gum, Rainbow everyone, all the best.

Thanks so much to all saying nice things about the right decision. I do feel I am making the right decision but it does mean a lot to know others agree.

If you hear of any ladies wishing to donate eggs in the Northampton area, please send them in my direction (they need to be under 36, I think).

God Bless. back to lurking, will check back in in a while.

Rowing still thinking of you.

Hi all
Hippy - so sorry about your insensitive friend. Think it's true it's a cotton-wool bubble reaction from her. As me old mum used to say "we should say a prayer for her"...

Lovely to see you back Italian - really pleased the path ahead looks clearer; that's the first step to continuing the journey after all.

BBow have done that trip to Italy a few times (pre small people though...!) Quite an adventure!

rainbow you sound balanced and brave. Glad you have had a lovely family time - all our blessings eh?

rowing a quiet but enthusiastic squeeze for you.

Has been mad hectic finding a rented house, but have done so at last, moving in day before completing on selling this one. So busy next few weeks, packing up and downsizing (rented house quite tiny), planning what I will chuck, sell, store at PILs. Scan at 12w on 16 August, move is the week after... oh blimey. Waver wildly between thinking all ok (still tired, nauseous, getting fat(ter), a touch of heartburn (never had that one before), and then thinking it'll be a repeat of the last 2 times... had some brown discharge on Sunday, but not much, and nothing since. Could be nothing, could be an early sign. Who knows!

Right DS at nursery so must maximise the day... love to all.

Rowing, any news?

Jollster, not long til your 12 week scan.

Nothing to report here.

I've decided to stop taking the red clover as I read that it can stop ovulation.I'm also still BF DS,and it is suggested that you shouldn't take red clover while BF.

I still have plenty of other supplements to fill me up though!

Hippy,sorry about your insensitive friend.

Rainbow, it is good to hear from you.

I'll check in later to see what's going on.

Sorru, also meant to say "Ciao" to Italian and Beatie and anyone else reading the thread.

Hello everyone, I hope you don't mind me crashing your thread. I'm 42 & TTC with a new partner after a disastrous few years personally (miscarriage, moving, divorce, single parenthood, new job, you name it!). I don't know if I'm mad or not. DP is 45 & would love a bub of his own (I have 2 - DS 6 & DD 4). We're supposed to just 'see what happens' & not get stressed but I have snuck out & bought OPK's (& can't help but get stressed!) Have just had a LH surge which is encouraging I guess so we'll see what happens. I currently live in a small town in Australia & am much older than the other Mums (have been asked if I'm my children's grandmother!) so guess I'm just looking for reassurance that I'm not too old for all this! Best wishes to you all x

Hi sydneyhousewife welcome! Of course you're not too old. We're also meant to be "seeing what happens" (according to my dh), but that isn't possible really is it? I know too much about my cycle and can't take things slow at my age (well I never could really!).

btw Gumblossom is also in Australia!

Gum i've stopped taking all supplements! In my quest to relax and not think about it this month. I might still take folic acid, but not even sure about vitb6. My LP was just too long last cycle and it scared me, so maybe I'll see what happens. But still worried about my womb lining - period was just soo light.

Also, anyone who knows about charting, my temp is going from one extreme to another each day - one day say 35.7 and the next 36.4 - what is happening? it is like a fcking yoyo!

rowing am thinking of you today.

Jolls, Lia, Doubleshot hope it is all going wok with you. Jolls where (general vicinity) have you moved to?

hippy hope the vest combo is working

diege even though you are on holiday hope you are ok.

italian and rainbow hello too! and anyone I have missed.

Ran 5k this morning, so am very pleased with myself - one upside of not being pg is I am fitter and thinner than I have been for a long time (not that that's saying much!)

Welcome Sydney...

Hey BBow - am well impressed with 5k - wow. Will be moving to Hanover for about a year, then plan is Steyning or Hurst or somewhere similar...

Hi to all.0

Woke up this morning and my very first thought was that I didn't feel pregnant. Not based on anything, just a strange feeling. Just wanted to tell someone...

oh Jolls can you get a scan at the epu this week? it may be nothing of course, just your/our paranoia.

I would quite like to move out and live in lewes I think. We really need to be thinking of secondary schools soon and don't really know what to do. But dh isn't at all sure - he says he isn't dead yet! I think it is quite a quirky place etc, Dh just thinks it is full of tweedy types. Oh well. It's interesting you are going though - is that to get more space or because you are a country person?

jolly I think you are probably just panicking (based on your history). But the brown spotting surely would entitle you to a scan now.

The good news is it's brown which is old blood and could just be a clear out.

I'm thinking of you lovie .

rowing Tested yet??

italian - yes other people's babies are often ugly and look just like their DH's - that is very funny.

I'm ok now. I don't have to see that colleague again unless I actually arrange to.

We all went to a pub garden to celebrate the official last day at work yesterday. We were all allowed to bring our kids as well. I sat next to the colleague I've mentioned (why did you do that Hippy ) and the other preggo came out of the pub. The first thing the stupid woman said as she saw the other preggo approaching was, "She's carrying a lot higher than me isn't she - what do you think?" This is less than 24 hours after I told her i was struggling with the date approaching!!! I just said, "Yep she is." Got up and walked away. I'm buggered if I'm having that conversation again .

Feeling ok today. Not so hung up on the date. Talked a lot to my sister about it recently and I know it's pointless to keep thinking about what would have been. Maybe I'm just feeling better cos I'm approaching Ov day (yep it's shorts and vests time again).

The UTI seems a bit better thanks to tons of cranberry juice. It's quite hard to drink lots of water for the UTI and to make lots of egg whites but then to not pee for a few hours to get a good sample for the OPK .

Love to all. Welcome to the newbie. I am about to be 44 (would love to be 42 - lucky you.)

Hi HIppy, know how you feel about the date etc - I feel alright too strangely, (although am also nearing vest top time of month) and am feeling happier than I have for months. What a tactless woman! I didn't tell anybody at work, so haven't had to face uto these comments thankfully - the pregnant colleagues are enough quite frankly.

Am trying very hard not to try this month - I am not taking many supplements (no EPO/Agnus etc which I think made me weird last month). I can't quite let go of the vit b or the temping, but I'm doing that in secret so dh doesn't know!

Have also made an appointment at drs - have been trying for 6 months now, so maybe they will now be able to help me or something. (not quite sure what I'm expecting though!).

hope everyone is ok - I am at work and am very unmotivated.

beattie we are two hot sexy chicks in our vest tops arn't we!!!

jolls I hope evrything is ok for you, I have to say, I felt exactly the same way last pg when sadly I was right. Can you try and get an immediate scan even to put your mind at rest, brown blood is usually less threatening than red but not always as sadly lots of ladies will testify. Do try not to worry and go all out for a scan, at this stage they'll be able to easily see a little baby. Hugs to you.

hippy where are you in cycle now? Catching up yet?

God I feel yeuch, don't wanna eat anything but constantly starving, feel completely sea sick the whole time, this has to be a boy, so far, (ooh, all 7 wks of it, ) is exactly the same as my last son. Girls, I was actually throwing up the whole time, not sure which is worse really.

On the other hand, I am not moaning this is my last time, and I know this bit will only last a few weeks and then I can enjoy it,

beattie I have my fingers firmly crossed for you, the month I fell, was the month we'd had the least sex in ages and I was in a really bad, it's never gonna happen mood. Hope it's your lucky month too.

hippy do you think a slap in the chops would have offended her? I'm also thinking of the 19th, Bitter sweet not that i'm pregnant again.

I have a twins lady due any day, she's got to 39 wks and is now 2cms at exam today so guess it's gonna be any day, tis my first twin birth so very excited.

good vibes to all. x

thinking of Hippy and BBow in vest tops is cheering me right up.... BBow - love Lewes, but DP paranoid about anywhere that's a (even slight) flood risk ... cuts out lots of lovely locations...!

Lia great news on strong symptoms, and how exciting on the twins. One of the lovelies on the MC thread is pg with twins, think she's still in shock!

I did phone the EPU - funnily enough, I think it's a case of who you speak to... as last time I hadn't had bleeding but they still agreed to scan me. This time, no go. She was very sympathetic, but still no. DP has suggested we go private if I want. I feel different tonight to this morning... going to see how I feel tomorrow. Will keep you posted.

Wave to all x