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Nicolaplus1 · 16/06/2010 19:19

I am ( i hope ) anyone on my other thread will know am not sure if i missed ovulation this month, picked up a positive on OPK sat and sun but 1st chance i had to BD was mon morning!!

So am classing myself as on 2ww and hoping that eier thursdays swimmers survived or that i actually ovulated maybe sun/mon.

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Energumene · 10/07/2010 02:33

Storm, sorry you didn't catch this month. Fingers crossed for the next.

Cora, the problem with what they teach in school is that it doesn't take into account the variations between people. In school, I learnt that a luteal phase was 14 days. In fact, that's just an average, and luteal phases can easily be anything from 12-16 days long, depending on the person. I've had luteal phases as short as 10 or 11 days, but unless you know that's a possibility it's easy to get your ov dates wrong.

I was under the care of a recurrent miscarriage clinic when I conceived H, and the only reason they would help me, given my bloods came back negative, was because I showed the consultant my temp chart, which gave her evidence of a luteal phase defect - and at least that was something they could look into. They monitored my cycle, the sonographer spotted a ripe egg and prescribed a trigger shot, and H was born at 41+4.

If you've not tried temping, I'd definitely give it a go. So long as you're pretty regular, it should give you an estimate of your luteal phase length and you can sort things out from there. These days, I'm a regular 26 day cycle with a 12 day luteal phase. And all it costs is a digital thermometer, whereas OPKs can be horribly expensive if you get into them.

JKS - glad they were so nice to you. Hope they help. It reminds me that something called the Oxford Conception Study may still be going. If it is, it's worth joining, as they send you a fertility monitor and a pile of OPKs to use with it. 6 months' supply as I recall. Did it years back when ttc H and it saved me a fortune.

Sorry for rambling post. It's late, it's hot and I can't sleep no matter how knackered I am. Aaaaarrrgggghhhhh!

CoraBear · 10/07/2010 13:10

Energumene that might be my problem, my cycle swings between 28-31 days, if I'm stressed out it tends to be shorter. I never took into account that my ovulation would change depending on the length of my cycle. You are the font of all knowledge on that.
Having said that, I hopped my DP every single night of the week I was due to ovulate so fingers crossed!!!

I really don't want to buy OPK's, times are tight in the CoraBear household so I can't justify spending a fortune on tests. I have settled in for my 2ww with a family bag of minstrels and cheesy poofs (such a tasty combo). I really don't want to get really caught up by all of this conception stuff but it's hard not to, I don't want to make the purpose of having sex to get pregnant. It kind of takes any romance out of it really doesn't it.

Energumene · 10/07/2010 21:04

Cora, I'm completely with you. In our case it was really daft because getting pg was never the problem: staying pg was where we had difficulty. But at the same time, unless you're carrying on getting pg, there's nothing for them to investigate, and no chance of a baby making it past whatever is causing the problem. The worst for dh was beginning to associate sex with the inevitable pain of a miscarriage. He hated to see me suffering like that.

I will never buy another OPK in my life. For one thing, when I was last using them they were a bit of a pain to use in terms of timings etc, so I'd be getting false negatives all over the shop. For another, these days I tend to get ov pains and fairly obvious EWCM, so it's not too hard to work out when ovulation is happening.

Sounds like you put in plenty of effort at the right time this month, so here's hoping it catches and OPKs are henceforth totally unnecessary. When we first started ttc, I never imagined the journey it would be, and the potential it had to cause our marriage grief. I'm sooooo grateful for the little boy I have. If this one sticks, it won't have been planned, but it will be a very welcome addition. In fact, that does seem to be our strategy for ttc #2: don't ttc, just don't bother with contraceptives.

Fingers crossed for us both

ps. dead jealous about minstrels and cheese puffs, since I can't do gluten or lactose. You have permission to eat twice as many on my behalf, so any calories consumed won't actually count ;)

CoraBear · 10/07/2010 22:54

Energumene,can't eat lactose either I just took a sachet of lactase. It's such a bad thing to do but I was in the mood for chocolate, I haven't had any in years. I bought a thermometer so I'm going to try the tempreture thing next month.

My poor/grateful DP was in shocked due to my rampantness during what I thought was my ovulation week. I don't want to share too much with him, as far as he's concerned it'll just happen. He had a previous accidental pregnancy the first night he spent with his ex. She mc'd but he knows that he can get a girl pregnant. I on the other hand have PCOS.

I have fingers crossed for both of us too (it makes typing difficult). It'll be nice to have some good news.

StormTTCbabyNo1 · 11/07/2010 08:21

Thanks to Energu posts I'm off to buy a BBT thermometer and start charting...

Page62 · 11/07/2010 10:26

I'm TTC #3 after a MC in Dec...
I'm 7-8 DPO and when i wiped this morning, there was a bit of blood with the mucus (sorry TMI). I am not due my period until this Friday/Sat/or Sunday
I am googling implantation bleeding - and this could be it -- but i don't know if clutching at straw as i didn't have it before.
Just freaked as it reminds me of when i MC'ed in Dec....

sillybillymummy · 11/07/2010 11:11

not sure... just stay positive x
I think i'm due tuesday ish (only had a couple of cycles since mirena so not sure) but did a test today and negative. I hate not knowing!

Energumene · 11/07/2010 21:04

Cora, if you like dark chocolate, check out Montezumas.co.uk

They have a whole vegan choc range and it is absolutely amazing. 73% cacao with no nasties, not even soy lecithin as an emulsifier.

Not cheap, but good to get friends and family to treat you at birthdays and Christmas.

Page62, could well be implantation spotting if you're sure of your ov date, so will be hoping this one sticks. It's impossible not to second guess things after a mc ((((hugs))))

God this waiting game sucks. Wishing you all patience, baby dust, sticky stuff, luck and chocolate xxx

Page62 · 11/07/2010 21:31

thanks energumene, i have been in tenterhooks all day. the thing is, the blood is bright red - still not as much as my normal period, but certainly not just a wipe or two....i was so sure we had it this month
i'll definitely know by tomorrow -- because my periods are so strong and day 2 is when it really comes. there is a part of me still holding out hope though....
baby dust to you all.....just so wanting this to happen!!!!

rosieroseanna · 11/07/2010 21:33

I'm on cd 22 as got my period on the 20th of June and tested today as would be 6 days before my period, used a first response but got a negative although apparantely I could still be preggers? Can anyone shed any light? This is my first time and I'm getting really confused as I thought you could use first response at 6 days before?

sillybillymummy · 11/07/2010 22:07

i think to get an accurate result, it has to be the day your period is due..
I've tested early and negative

Energumene · 12/07/2010 00:48

Rosie, you can certainly try using FR 6 days before your period is due, but they don't guarantee you'll get a result at that stage, even if you are pregnant. There are too many variables - everything from knowing when you ovulated to knowing when/if implantation took place, how much fluid you had drunk before peeing on your stick, all that kind of thing, because we're really talking very small amounts of hormones at this stage.

Your best chance of getting a positive is on the day your period is due. You might also get one 2 or 3 days before your period is due. The earliest I've ever had one is 10dpo.

If you want to increase your chances of seeing an early result, try not to drink too much after about 8pm, make sure you have a good wee before bedtime, and then use your first morning urine to test - wee into a jar or cup or something if your early morning coordination is dodgy, and you can always test later. But the best thing you can do is leave it as long as possible before testing. Very easy to say, much harder to do, I know, since I'm happily peeing on my internet cheapies every morning and I'm sure I'm not 10dpo yet

Page, there are plenty of things that can cause bleeding in early pg, including sex, because of the increased blood flow to the cervical area. Sometimes they can't even tell from a scan what caused the bleeding. My implantation bleeding with H was enough for me to prefer to use a pad, enough that I thought it was all over before it had really begun, but in reality stopped again very quickly. Goes to show you can't always tell.

How did you work out your ov date? Are you charting, or are you going by ov pains, or simply working back from the date your period would be due according to your normal cycle length? Sorry, lots of questions, but if it helps clear things up a bit...

Page62 · 12/07/2010 07:13

energumene, i think it's AF -- still bleeding, with a dull back ache. it's still not as much as i normally would....
i use the sticks -- but ran out of the 7th one! i was convinced that i would have gotten the smiley face the next day i ran out and we BD'ed the day after that...
but having thought my cycle was 29-30 days, this AF arriving yday means it's 26 days....i am so confused i can weep
we're on hols from next weekend for two weeks so will have a window then!

Energumene · 12/07/2010 09:44

Sounds like you just ov'd early this cycle then, you poor love. If this is AF, you're probably somewhere between 12 and 16 days post ovulation, so you may not have started with the OPKs until you'd already ov'd. Or you may simply have had an anovulatory cycle - it does happen, although it's very frustrating.

So sorry AF got you. Lots of cyber chocs and wine coming your way, as well as baby dust for next month xxx

Page62 · 12/07/2010 09:55

thanks, just been to Boots and bought clearblue with 20 sticks in it i am determined to catch it next month especially as we're on holiday!!! (poor DH will be overworked!

Energumene · 12/07/2010 11:43

Holidays are a very good time to conceive

Will have to pop back and see how you get on - since we're not actually ttc I won't be on this thread next month if it doesn't work out, but I can still cheer from the sidelines!

CoraBear · 13/07/2010 18:48

Hi Page, I hope you have a good holiday. I have been laid up with food poisoning for the last few days, a bad bbq. I doubt I am pregnant. I have been so sick that any chance of BD'ing has not occured. Off to lie down now.
Baby dust to all!!!!

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