Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome.

[VivClicquot]

So, I thought I'd take it upon myself to kickstart the new thread. As the title suggests, this is a wonderful home full of the bravest, funniest and most inspirational women on Mumsnet, who are always ready to lend an ear and a virtual glass of wine.

The new thread is kicked off with 3 bfps in 3 days, so here's to more love and luck along the way

xx

big piles or arse - its barely there but still no flat out BFN for me... sigh, 25 days post erpc, no bleeding for a week, defo fainter than last time - hold up to the light line but i want a no holds barred, no line whatsoever negative to draw a line under it once and for all.

upside .....if it takes me longer to be ready ot ry again it might give me a little longer in a new job before i would be preggers again and that would be no bad thing.... always seeking the upside

congrats sparkly we crossed posts earlier, thats lovely news

linda i would say push for all test yo can have - there are blood tests and chromosome tests which they can do - also will look at your oh sperm 'quality' nhs don't do immune system tests or look for natural killer cells which are tests you would have privately if you wanted them, but the doctors are saying to me the best test is if you have had a child already - if so the chances are there is nothing wrong with you that they can treat to make things any diffrent, nhs will only do tests once you have had 3 mc in a row, but if you don't have time on your hands you can argue theres a need to accelerate the process - although they may push back in which case i would say go private if you can. bottom line is if you have 3 dc's already and this is your first mc the chances of it being just one of those things is high ....

curly cd17 sounds very odd, very early, might just be a wierd anomoly, would think its unlikely to be an infection or related to mc after a couple of normal cycles so not sure really, but if you are worried i would say get it checked out!

i am off for a bath and early night, cheerio

alba and sparkly congrats!

I'm holding off testing, would normally be due at 28 days (Friday) but last 2 post MC cycles have been 31 days. This would put me as due RTD tomorrow. I don't like to test early so will give it a few days to the latter half of the week if nothing happens.

Have been clearing out sheds and garden. Have seen pretty house in tiny village (still near outer zone tube). Hubby grew up on farm and I was a towny, but have been craving peace and quiet for past few years. He's well pleased to have me round to his way of thinking. No rush and need to be moved by Jan 2012 for primary school for DS1. It is funny how you do nice things to your house when you're leaving that you can't be arsed to do for yourself! A but like cleaning for the burglars before you go on holiday.

Have a lovely week all xxx

My diet fell apart towads the end of the week, so joining ladies only gym tomorrow. Should be fun?!

Huge congrats to Alba and sparkly!!! Lovely to see bfps on this thread. Hope you both have boring and reassuringly uneventful pregnancies.

Getting the odd twinge in my ovaries. But no ewcm yet. Would be very surprised if I ov'ed this early after only stopped bleeding last Thursday. Would be nice to have short cycle for a change.

Got my scan tomorrow. Not quite sure what they'll be looking for. But maybe they can tell me if I'm ovulating soon? Will be going to work either side of the appointment, coz that's how I roll.

fab news sparkly ! Congratulations !!!!

Big BFP woot woots to Alba and Sparkly! Well done to you and your DPs and sticky vibes coming your way.

Spring madness has certainly hit! Congrats sparkly hugs all round.

cheepz fingers crossed for a bfn very soon. Good that the line is fainter though which can only be a good thing.

viv my money's on you next .........!

Ha barren, I should be so lucky....

Morning all. In the office a bit earlier than usual due to a meeting with a guy here that I don't get on with. I need to put him back in his box after a recent run-in, so I'm not looking forward to it at all. Wish me luck girls! x

Good luck viv! Put him back in his box and sit on it.

Sending sticky bean thoughts to Alba and Sparkly (good on yer girls!) and sticky buns to the rest of you lovely ladies.

Morning

I'm off for a week!

Congrats Sparkly

Good luck Viv sit on him, nail it shut and return to sender!
Do you want a hand?

Pooter having a dicky fit and striking without notice.
So excuse the random posts that may follow as I'm playing Russian roulette and trying to write and post before it poofs off without warning
I need a Netbook and if I could possibly stay on line long enough to find one I may be successful.

Cheepz I'd go for the big piles and arse!
It'll come.

Bunny wot news?
Enjoy the Gym, I intend to get the WiiFit thingy out sometime this week.

Hi Curly Good to hear from you.

Lindalinda you need any digital thermometer that has 2 decimal places. I got mine off Amazon. I use fertilityfriend.com for keeping track of my temping and other info, and the tutorials on there are quite helpful, explaining...ahem...mucus, and "stuff". I temp and use ov sticks, and if I get a positive on the ov stick, I basically have as much sex as possible over the next couple of days. Temping only really tells you you've ovulated after it has already happened, so it's useful for keeping an eye on you cycles but not for planning the attack on DH. Mucus, however, is definitely the way forward for planning when to SWI, as gross as it sounds. That rambled a bit - hope it was useful.

lindalinda ewcm (the egg White type mucus) can turn up a few days before ovulating or just before. Temping can help you look at your cycle overall and you can see looking back if you got the temp rise just after or a few days after you got a batch of mucus.

I'd say if you get some mucus, go for it every 24-36 hours for at least four-five days. Preferably you'd be having sex throughout your cycle just in case you ovulate earlier or later than normal.

Congrats alba and sparkly! Am feeling v. heartened by all these bfps! Must be the weather :-)

Aly I was on metformin before and it worked pretty well. I started at 500mg and worked my way up to 1500mg and was on a low-GI diet and avoided sugar, which helped with the sickness. I was losing weight anyway but I think the met did kick-start my ovulation, and we conceived on the first cycle hard to say if the met (which I continued taking through the first trimester) helped avoid m/c, but I did have a successful pregnancy.

Linda we used pre-seed for that one and it worked well. There are a few more sperm-friendly lubricants out there now though so you can pick and choose a bit.

Thankyou moofold and clareanna re agnus castus... will look out for it.

With bold!

Aly I was on metformin before and it worked pretty well. I started at 500mg and worked my way up to 1500mg and was on a low-GI diet and avoided sugar, which helped with the sickness. I was losing weight anyway but I think the met did kick-start my ovulation, and we conceived on the first cycle hard to say if the met (which I continued taking through the first trimester) helped avoid m/c, but I did have a successful pregnancy.

linda boodle (see grads) got preggers twice with preseed so she would swear by it!

on the whole temping and ov tests another option is to take out the effort and get yourself a clearblue fertility monitor (monitor costs about £60), this will track your cycle, you poas when it tells you (10 sticks per cycle and a pack of 20 costs 12 pounds on amazon) and it will tell you the window in which you have the most chance of getting pregnant, as well as any days when you have a high chance - this means no temping, random sticks or watching CM although of course you can because it just tells you when you are most fertile in the month,

using mine i got pregnant 2 out of 4 cycles (both mc but thems the breaks) and I will be using it again straight away - it tells me i am on CD25 at the moment but since its post erpc its just counting days for me at the moment.

what i found using mine after 7 cycles of trying by CM was that my EWCM peak is about 3 days before I ovulate so we had been trying at the wrong time! And since my dh hates knowing about dates and times and ovulation its not like I can jump his bones 5 days in a row around voulation and not have him be deeply suspicious - 2 times in a peak window on the monitor is a hard enough challenge!

I have found ti takes some of the stress out.

Brilliant news Alba and Sparkly it's very heartening for a fairly new newbie like me to see so many BFPs

Afraid I can't stop to namecheck everyone as got lots of deadlines this week before going away next week but hi to everyone

Linda, alternative is just lots of SWI... I usually obsess, use OPKs, time things perfectly... This month none of that. However, I am usually pretty regular so I'm sure I knew what needed to be done when which does help. Sometimes all the tracking can become too stressful, only you can know the right balance for you.

Thanks all for such lovely messages... I went away for a day and there are literally dozens of posts to catch up on!!

Magic8ball, thanks for being right!
Moofold, sorry you're back at the start again, that's tough...
Sparkly, yay! Here's hoping we have an easy time and a disrupted new year!!
Who else is joining us, this news usually comes in flurries...

Sorry lack of namechecking, on the phone again so it's a bit slow.... But big thankyous to all. I'll post again tomorrow after nervously checking how far along I am on one of those clever digi tests... Still a bit nervewracking but trying to stay positive and as much as I can to enjoy it, I know how lucky I am

Monday's list - I think this is right. Shout if it's not xx

Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL26 cycle 7 CD72
Limelight TTC#2 UCL35 cycle 1 CD49 ~ MIA?
Margie32 TTC#1 UCL? cycle Wtf CD49
Liahgen TTC#6 UCL26 cycle 1 CD46
Urd TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 1 CD38
clareanna TTC#2 UCL35 cycle 2 CD33
Redheadgal TTC#1 UCL 28-30 cycle WTF CD33
BunnyBaby TTC#3 UCL31 cycle 2 CD32
Icedlemonmuffin TTC#2 cycle 12 UCL24-32 CD32
sparklyrainbow TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 1 CD31 - BFP 25th April
LucyT66 TTC#1 UCL33-34 cycle 4 CD31
JulesAbs TTC#1 UCL30 cycle 2 CD28
albadetamble TTC#2 UCL25 cycle 2 CD27 - BFP 25th April
slimyak TTC#2 UCL26 cycle 4 CD26
Pollyanna TTC#6 UCL27 cycle2 CD25
vivcliquot TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 5 CD22
Curlylox TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 2 CD20
dirtgirl TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 2 CD19
Littlemiss72 TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 3 CD18
Scotchontherocks TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 5 CD15
Gonnabe TTC#1 UCL28 Cycle 2 CD12
westyorkshiregirl TTC#1 UCL37 cycle 3 CD12
Allthe8s TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 3 CD8
Mummy3610 TTC#4 UCL 26-30 cycle 2 CD7
Moofold TTC#2 UCL~33 cycle3 CD2

BUnderthebonnet TTC#2 UCL 28-36 CD??
lucy snowe TTC#2 UCL 40+?? cycle 2 CD ??

WTTC
Muser TTC#1 EP 18/02/10 Month 3 of 3 month wait
Cheepz TTC#2 MMC 26/3/10 6 week wait post ERPC
Jollster TTC#2 MMC 26/2/10 couple of cycles wait on acupuncturist advice
ElmMum TTC#2 MC 28/2-17/3/10 UCL 28/29 on cycle 1 of (self-imposed) 2 or 3 cycle wait
Freezing TTC#2 MC 28/3/10 on cycle 1 of 2 or 3 cycle wait
LadyBee TTC#2 ERPC 08/04/10
Digitalgirl TTC#2 MC 11/04/10
NBelle TTC#1 MC 09/04/10
MrsG/PrettyV Enjoying the view and the great company.

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
hoops997 BFP 11 July 2009
Stressy BFP 22nd August 2009
becky78 BFP 4th September 2009
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September 2009
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September 2009
Chamois BFP 7th October 2009
Apples BFP 9th November 2009
Meita BFP 10th December 2009
CakeandFineWine BFP 27th December 2009
boodleboot BFP 2nd January 2010
LeeWT BFP 21st January 2010
TFLS BFP 22nd January 2010
Louisesh BFP 22nd January 2010
MrsRigby BFP 27th January 2010
TheKurgan BFP 30th January 2010
effilump BFP 8th February 2010
Sarahlou8 BFP 10th February 2010
samanthab123 BFP 10th February 2010
redandyellowandpinkandgreen BFP 6th March 2010
floweringcurrant BFP 8th March 2010
HappyGirl1 BFP 23rd March 2010
Unbuffy BFP 28th March 2010
Zayja BFP 2nd April 2010
Barrenbrook BFP 6th April 2010
Goodluckbear BFP 10th April 2010
Malteser1981 BFP 11th April 2010
Gilda BFP 19th April 2010

oh linda your post made my heart reach out - its such a difficult thing, and really sometimes so lonely and you wonder where you went, where di your life go because it all becomes so much about trying and waiting and checking and seeing and then being disappointed and then trying and then being ecstatic and then being devatated and it can quickly get to be too much.

I have a DS - I have decided that if I don't have another child then my life will be different - not worse or better, just different. I think we will, I am 37 and theres no reason why in the next few years we couldn't have a sucessful pregnancy but I have decided its not going to be the thing that dominates my thinking, its not going to define me. I am going to move my life forward, for my son and husband as much as anything but mostly just for myself.

It has taken me 8 months since the first mc to get to this oint and its been really hard sometimes but I have to say - I feel so much better since I decided not to make it my number 1 priority - thank god i needed an op this time which has forced us to stop trying - I wouldn't have taken a month out if it had been a natural one and then maybe I wouldn't have had a window to change.

I feel for you because you sound so lost. It will all come together in time.

Oh dear. Just burst into tears on a colleague who was nice enough to inquire if I'd had a good Easter. Thought I was feeling better about it all. Evidently not.

On the positive side it might be PMT and the sign of RTD and my cycle getting back to normal.

wise wordz cheepz

Feeling a bit disappointed after my scan, but don't know why. She asked me why I was there. I said I thought it was to do with my to referral but wasn't sure why the epdu were scanning me. She said there's been a clerical error but seeing as your here let's scan you.

So, womb is all fine, no polyps or anything untoward lurking. However my ovaries had the 'look' of being polycystic. But seeing as I've ovulated and conceived at least twice in the last 6 months it's not what caused the miscarriages. She said pcos usually prevents you from conceiving in the first place.

Then she said they're not going to run any further tests unless I miscarry again. I asked about whether progesterone deficiency was likely and she said progesterone supplements have never been proven to prevent miscarriages in her experience. I also asked whether taking aspirin would help and she said there's no harm but again unlikely that any blood clotting disorders would have caused the mc's if I've got one healthy ds already. Then I asked if I had a third mc would they start running tests during the mc and she said yes. She also said that some of these tests would have to he done after I'd had two normal periods following the mc. So in a way I suppose it's a good thing they're not investigating now or we'd have to out ttc on hold and I've decided I really want to go for it straightaway.

She said I can call them as soon as I'm pregnant again and they'll book me in for a 6 week scan.

She also said i'm not about to ovulate either as none of my follicles are big enough.

Think I'm going to cut out alcohol and caffeine and try a low-GI diet from now on. It won't change the quality of my eggs, but if it can help regulate my cycles a bit more then that's 50% of the stress dealt with.

Sorry for another me rant but was hoping to have another test of some sort to look forward to. I guess I'm back to obsessively checking my cm and cp. Wish ov sticks and the cbfm would work for me. Unfortunately I've been known to get false lh surges so it's a complete waste of money for me.

Hi all,

Great to read all the latest posts. Congrats to those who are PG. As of this morning I can add my name to that list. My hands were shaking so much this morning when I took the bloody test out of the packet that I thought I was gonna drop it down the loo, but I did it and it's a BFP.

Obviously I am thrilled. However, I am also scared, nervous, on edge and pessimistic. Isn't it sad that once you've had a MC you'll never regain that innocent belief that everything's going to be fine?

First scan on May 27th, and I know our doc is going to bollock us for not waiting the recommended time after the MC.

Fingers crossed for those who are PG that we all have an uneventful 9 months, and here's hoping that all of you who are trying get to join us ASAP.