Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome.

[VivClicquot]

So, I thought I'd take it upon myself to kickstart the new thread. As the title suggests, this is a wonderful home full of the bravest, funniest and most inspirational women on Mumsnet, who are always ready to lend an ear and a virtual glass of wine.

The new thread is kicked off with 3 bfps in 3 days, so here's to more love and luck along the way

xx

Oh digital swear away how annoying for you - so thoughtless of them not to come back to you. Glad you've booked your gp regardless.

Re the being healthy I'm kinda still a wine lover I'm afraid but I'm with viv the minute I get positive I will be tea total. I'm caffine free, but only cos I drink so much and it tastes just as good de caf so hubbie and I gave up a while ago - although I do succumb to a diet coke at times....

viv I'm a 28 day cycle girl I think! That's how I work out when I'm due and it's always on time give or take 24 hrs - would you put me on the list please?

Right I'm going to scuttle out of work early - shhhhh!!
X

Thursday's list with the inclusion of Gonnabe x

Thursday's List:

Tigerbear TTC#1 UCL26 cycle 7 CD61
Hopefully TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 4 CD39
Limelight TTC#2 UCL35 cycle 1 CD39
Liahgen TTC#6 UCL26 cycle 1 CD35
Scotchontherocks TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 4 CD34
Malteser1981 TTC#? UCL28 cycle 1 CD33
westyorkshiregirl TTC#1 UCL37 cycle 2 CD29
Gi1da TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 1 CD27
Urd TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 1 CD27
Allthe8s TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 2 CD24
Mummy3610 TTC#4 UCL 26-30 cycle 1 CD24
Moofold TTC#2 UCL~33 cycle2 CD22
clareanna TTC#2 UCL35 cycle 2 CD22
BunnyBaby TTC#3 UCL31 cycle 2 CD21
Icedlemonmuffin TTC#2 cycle 12 UCL24-32 CD21
sparklyrainbow TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 1 CD20
LucyT66 TTC#1 UCL33-34 cycle 4 CD20
JulesAbs TTC#1 UCL30 cycle 2 CD17
albadetamble TTC#2 UCL25 cycle 2 CD16
slimyak TTC#2 UCL26 cycle 4 CD15
Pollyanna TTC#6 UCL27 cycle2 CD14
vivcliquot TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 5 CD11
Curlylox TTC#3 UCL28 cycle 2 CD9
dirtgirl TTC#2 UCL28 cycle 2 CD8
Littlemiss72 TTC#1 UCL28 cycle 3 CD7
Gonnabe TTC#1 UCL28 Cycle 2 CD1

BUnderthebonnet TTC#2 UCL 28-36 CD ??

WTTC
Muser TTC#1 EP 18/02/10 on month 2 of 3 month wait
MrsGazebo TTC#1 MMC6 Molar 8/1/10. On 3-6 month wait
Cheepz TTC#2 MMC 26/3/10 6 week wait post ERPC
Jollster TTC#2 MMC 26/2/10 couple of cycles wait on acupuncturist advice
ElmMum TTC#2 MC 28/2-17/3/10 UCL 28/29 on cycle 1 of (self-imposed) 2 or 3 cycle wait
Freezing TTC#2 MC 28/3/10 on cycle 1 of 2 or 3 cycle wait
LadyBee TTC#2 ERPC 08/04/10

GRADUATES
amyboo
totally
hoops997 BFP 11 July 2009
Stressy BFP 22nd August 2009
becky78 BFP 4th September 2009
LittleOneMum BFP 7th September 2009
Waitingisntfun BFP 19th September 2009
Chamois BFP 7th October 2009
Apples BFP 9th November 2009
Meita BFP 10th December 2009
CakeandFineWine BFP 27th December 2009
boodleboot BFP 2nd January 2010
LeeWT BFP 21st January 2010
TFLS BFP 22nd January 2010
Louisesh BFP 22nd January 2010
MrsRigby BFP 27th January 2010
TheKurgan BFP 30th January 2010
effilump BFP 8th February 2010
Sarahlou8 BFP 10th February 2010
samanthab123 BFP 10th February 2010
redandyellowandpinkandgreen BFP 6th March 2010
floweringcurrant BFP 8th March 2010
HappyGirl1 BFP 23rd March 2010
Unbuffy BFP 28th March 2010
Zayja BFP 2nd April 2010
Barrenbrook BFP 6th April 2010
Goodluckbear BFP 10th April

Man, Digigirl - those guys are crap. Swear away.

Viv that all makes perfect sense to me and I'm sticking with it, seeing as I was probably having a glass a day up to the day RTD was due. I obviously beat myself up about it considerably, and am making up for it by being supremely healthy now. Apart from the M&S chocolate mini bites (but surely M&S is healthy by definition?)

Have stopped playing with The Spot, going point Cheepz. Think Spot is on it's way out now anyway, it looks less interesting this afternoon.

Love the new name Gonnabe!!

xxx

Digi what pants. Thanks for understanding NYE baby would have to be C-Section after unrepeatable time last time, so that would be just before xmas! but I don't care! (is that selfish for poor child

GLB was spot responsible for volcanic ash erruption?! I am allowed to tease as am also prone to monster spot attack. Spots and wrinkles - if you'd told me this at 13 I may have never left my room

Have been and had my hair done and did obligatory "look at my bouncy new hair" walk down the street. Feel far better than this morning/last night - shallow, moi?!

Turns out it might have been slightly hormonal too - CMFM fans - I got a peak a PEAK! this is brill as shows at least body is working again... why am I telling you this?! need to be telling DH whilst wearing best pants....!

CMFM ? weird new eggwhite related radio station with non stop Zita West playing?!
should have read CBFM...

Been away with work. In a bit of a state. In meeting this aft, developed terrible cramps, then in loo at Peterborough station discovered was bleeding. Made it home, got absolutely shocking pains, mostly in the middle and low down, am totally exhausted and gutted that I am clearly not pg. No idea what's going on as last 2 cycles were 37 days (and that length before I got pg first time), this one now 29 days. If this cycle is earlier than others, then the huge amounts of SWI for 9 days should have been successful. All RTDs since mc have been very painful - is this normal?

I really was getting hopeful again with all the tiredness and random queasiness and it's just so bloody rubbish. How am I going to manage if it takes so bloody long to get pg? I just want one baby - my first - like everyone else seems to have. I know at 31 time is not exactly ebbing away, but I just can't explain it. I've been married for 10 years and the time is right. I don't know what to do or how to cope. Today has been such a shitty day. I am so sorry for the rant - it's not like me. I hope you are doing better than me.

moofold are you scottish? just some of your terminology made me think of home

Felt like a bag of shite last night, was bleeding heavily and really bad cramps and of course my DH was away for the night. He is now driving home from Oslo after his flight was cancelled because of the volcanic ash.

Feeling better again today, guess it's an up and down thing.

DH and I both have tomorrow off and we are heading out at night for an Indian and a few cocktails/beers since it is my birthday on Sunday.

I think my stats are as follows: TTC#1 MMC 09/04/10 UCL 27-29, on the WTTC list, have to wait for a period first before we start the IVF process again.

What's RTD?

Thanks for all of your lovely messages of support. Yesterday was a tough day visiting the EPU and confirming that our bean was gone. I suppose I can be grateful that I have had a natural m/c.

I am sorely tempted to play TTC roulette rather than be on the sidelines for the next two months. I've got a doctor's appt on Tuesday to see if anything should be done about the fibroid as I'd hate for it to be a problem further down the line.

It's not easy when you have pregnant friends and everything is going well for them. Hopefully, my turn will come.

wyg really sorry your cycle is confusing you. I had two long 31 day cycles with 18 days of bleeding / spotting for both, it was so odd that the breakthrough bleeding was as heavy as a period. However this month all seems back to normal with 28 day cycle and early fertility peak.

It's all a bit scary but trust your body and mother nature are sorting you out. I've got a very good cranial osteopath who helped balance my hormones and physiology which I think helped.

I also think last month I had a chemical pregnancy which reset things for me. As you're bleeding very heavily perhaps you have had the same and it's helping you rebalance again.

nbelle and laf it's a really tough time physically let alone mentally. My heart is with you, make sure you get lots of tlc and talk about it as little or as much as you want to.

Evening everyone

WYG so sorry to hear about your shit day, really thinking of you.

Nbelle glad you're feeling a bit better today. You're in Norway aren't you? I suddenly had visions of your DH driving back to UK from Oslo. RTD is red tide of doom (ie. period) - I only found out the other day

Clareanna like the CMFM - sounds interesting

Good luck Cheepz in finding a spa for the weekend - I would love one too

Gonnebe good name - I like it

LadyBee what film did you see last night?

G1ida I do likey Ocado. Tried it out after reading a MN thread about it. Give it a whirl. Talking of gardening I seem to have swapped knicker checking for wisteria flower bud checking. Have been here 4 years, and have tried every year to prune the wisteria to get it to flower, but am complete gardening novice so don't really have clue what to do. However, this year there seems to be some positive flowering type buds (I think). Unfortunately I'll keep you and everyone else updated even if you're not interested!

VivCliquot you're making me feel about healthy eating, have just inhaled a massive bag of crisp waiting for DH to come home. I meant to be cooking dinner but not hungry now. Plus my motto is "never say no to champagne* (not that I get offered it very often)

PrettyVacant hope the day at work went well

Hello to digigirl, bunnybaby, GLB, Moofold, LAF, and Allthe8s and everyone else v sorry if I have missed you out

Westy so very sorry, what an awful day for you. It will happen, it will. It bloody well WILL. I understand you just want it now though

I hope your DH is home to make you hot water bottles and bring you wine, cake or nom-moms as needed.

Nom-noms bloody presumptuous iPod spelling wizard!

What's a nom-nom?

Freezing thanks, I will try Ocado, I think I saw the same thread and didn't read all as my judgey pants prevent me from ever setting foot in Tescos. Word to the Wise - don't ask why I boycott Tesco. I won't be able to explain lucidly but am likely to start frothing at the mouth, and spittle is SO not a good look.

Am interested in the wisteria, well done you! Its on my own garden wish-list so will be looking for tips. (Just moved and it's a blank canvas out there to put it kindly).

Clarea still chuckling at CMFM. Although I think my ovaries will pack up and leave home if I ever inflict Zita on them.

PrettyMrsG hope the day went well. And that Sheffield caved in and gave you a winning baybee lottery ticket for next month's draw.

Nom noms are lovelinesses of the food variety, or the sound of enjoyment of said loveliness

as in "Mmm cake nom nom nom"

Sometimes I forget if words are real words or made up ones from our home lexicon. My fave is mizzogs for miserable, which has got quite some use lately.

I love words. Discovering fanjo here was a joy, though from the confuzzled look on her face, my doctor is not an mnetter

Gilda - I think that's really funny! Thanks for explaining!

Cheepz well done on even getting to potty training, we're not there yet but I was told today that the other child looked after by my childminder is starting to potty train, so I'm hopeful that DS might start showing an interest too (although he's only turning 2 this weekend, so no rush!)

LAF I'm sorry to hear of your loss, a good idea to talk to your GP about the fibroid, hopefully he'll reassure you that nothing needs to happen or if it does, it's a simple procedure.

NBelle I hope you're coping ok, it does seem to be a more delayed experience for you. Do keep an eye on yourself, especially your temperature and level of pain and call for help if you're worried.

clareanna I suspect the anniversaries are going to be tough, and I can see digitalgirl's point about that three month deadline as well. It will happen for you, I know you've been trying but it's possible that your body has been taking a bit of time to get ovulating again, even if things seem reasonably regular. But it looks like you're on the business now lady...with swishy hair and all

Cheepz did you find something? I'm just hoping there is no further plumes, we're supposed to be off on holiday on Sunday.

gonnabe pregnant women are like marmalade cats, when you're aware of them you see them everywhere.

digital I don't know, I gave up caffeine and booze in my 2ww - mainly because I know with PCOS I need to give myself every chance to get pg in the first place. It obviously didn't stop a MC. BUT I can totally understand the urge to make those changes the next time around for you, if only to stop those 'I wonder...' thoughts. And it is truly crap that you have to chase up your own care.

WestYorkshireGirl, big big squeeeeeeeeze for you. So crushing when you get the symptoms and it comes to naught.

Gi1da I am roffling at the idea of you using fanjo at the Drs. We have 'howlybags' at home - this is a big crying session, an example of which I've just had. Was on edge all day and about halfway through realised it was a week ago that I had the ERPC - seems like a lifetime.

Big sigh.

Anyhoo. I saw Green Zone last night - big 'Bourne' type flick with Matt Damon as Every Soldier in Iraq, good political conspiracy. Had wine, chocolate and popcorn and then took a taxi home as a real luxury instead of waiting about for trains etc.

Then did very little today. Read a lot of this website link, which seems quite sensible despite the angel orientation (not my cup o' tea). Found my way to the bit about Molar pregnancy, PV/MrsG - all I can say is blimey. I still don't think I quite get it, it seems very complicated to me, but it does sound like there are good reasons those Sheffield bods are asking you to wait

LadyB I like howlybags and it's so appropriate. This is one whole howlybag rollercoaster isn't it?

howlybags and mizzogs - I am stealing them both

we also have nom noms in this house so thats clearly wider distribution, and gil i think you have balls using fanjo at the doctors - love it, did he look over his specs?? very funny

WYG crap and arse - thats what your day has been like, so big howlybags session for you honey, I have always known having DS makes the whole process easier to bear and I can only imagine how hard it is when your wondering if you are going to have a baby as oppose to whether you will have another one, be strong lady and heres hoping your waiting will be rewarded soon with a long and uneventful pregnancy - as you say you have time, try and relax - I know easier said than done, and don't put everything on hold, keep life moving forward xxx

we are off to stoke park club where i have snagged us a lastminute deal on a suite - yeeehaaaaa .. pick up a stack of mags tomorrow and then pool time, bit of gym time and some mega treatments woot woot, going to make up for lack of pregnancy by indulging in all the treatments i couldn't have had if i was still in the club

if theres wifi I will update you on my lazy indilgence

btw nbelle and laf you are doing great

PS gonnabe there are 8 pregnant women in my office at the moment - I work in IT so there are only about 12 women in the department at all .... sigh, at least they are all big fatties and I am not [slightlysmugtryingtobebraveface]

Evening all, sorrys in advance about not name checking, speshully all yers who are feeling pants.

Only just got home from work 20 mins ago
Interesting first day in big school, had a good chat with new colleague so we all knew where we stood.
Went quite quickly until a pair of Gobshites came in 15 mins before I closed and helped them selves to £400 worth of cosmetics.
I ran after them and with the help of security got it all back.
Had to wait for Police and make a statement.

On the plus side and the reason for my selfish post is I did call Sheffield.....

Boom chiccka bown bowwnn!

They said as my results are normal they'll count the
6 month wait from Jan.
I said that I would like to start trying this month.
They said
"Ladies do start trying before the 6 months if the results are normal and go on to have healthy pregnancies."
I said so I can then?
Would you recommend it?

They said no
I said I understand that they couldn't recommend it.
They said please could I remember to go for a
blood test 6 weeks after I have my baby.

Guess I'll have to find the waggon and climb aboard
again!
I'll add myself to the list tomorrow.

I'm off to beddy byes now as I'm very sleepy, will catch up soon and be less self indulgent.
I just had to share cos I'm so happy !
No more Sausages

Gilda my mum used to say mizzogs, but I was never sure on the spelling so thanks for that . Used as an adjective and a noun, you are very mizzogs, and oi mizzogs...?

viv interesting you mention CM... after my first MC I had a couple of cycles with virtually none, this time I am already noticing more. A coincidence or the power of acupuncture? Mmmm....

pretty I remember those bastard thieves... you should NOT put yourself in danger though. Seriously not a good idea. Are you working in a large indoor shopping arena with special views of a premier motorway. The veteran you refer to is not Gill F is it...? Terrific news on the TTC. Blimmin delighted for you. x

Hi to all. Am home alone for the first time in over 2 years, as DS at nursery this morning. (He was yesterday too, but then I ran round town like a loony shopping, doing chores that are impossible with a toddler and drinking a hot choc in Pret with noone to worry about but ME ME ME!!!!) Today I am sitting in my quiet kitchen, in my quiet house. It's unnerving but really nice. Have to scrub and treat the deck this morning, so not all jolly in Jollsterville

Jolls absolutely re useage of mizzogs. Your mum's not from the South West by any chance? I wonder if the word came from DH's deep subconscious? I also love this one from his Somerset Nan - the time of evening when the sun's going down and its not quite night yet ... dumpsy dark.

MrsPretty HOORAAAAAHHHH! (For getting back on the ttc pony, not for getting home at nearly midnight after being on ChavWatch!)

I had a thought about the list, I was wondering how long it might take to get diffed again and wondered how long the grads had been trying. What do you think about putting the successful cycle number on the grads stats to inspire us? As in well "its ok if it hasn't happened by X as Diffed got duffed on cycle X+1 etc".

Hi all,

I'm loving mizzog. Sounds a bit like fizzog, as in "Oi, get that look off your fizzog and start enjoying yourself".

I used to live in Scotchland and my southern friends always appreciate some swithering (dithering between two alternatives, at least that's how I use it).

Apols but here comes a me, me, me rant...

Just went to the docs to discuss my dodgy skin. I thought I might have rosacea - face has been getting redder, drier and spottier for the past few years but I've kind of managed to ignore it mostly. But since MC thought maybe I should get it checked, since it could be hormonal and therefore a symptom of something that also caused the MC.

Anyway, chose the nicest doc at my GPs and he is lovely and a good doc, but I was still left feeling a confused.

He says not rosacea, just acne. (Oh good, thanks, just what I want aged 38, some good old fashioned teenage acne).

Also said a MC wouldn't be caused by any possible hormonal issues. Hormones would stop me getting pregnant but not cause an MC. Can this be right? Surely it's all about hormones?

Anyway, I have a topical cream which he says I can continue to use even when we start TTC.

And finally, he repeated the mantra "we only investigate MC after you've had three consecutive MCs"

WHY!?!

If men had MC I bet this wouldn't be the case. It's just such an arbitrary rule that they expect you just to accept and it's all about money, obviously. It doesn't take into account the actual feeling of having had a MC. Why can't they rule out a few possibilities for you after you've had a MC. It would help you feel more in control and like you're doing something, and possibly avoid the chance that you'll have another one.

It's not like anything happens after the third one to suddenly reveal the reasons behind it. And he said even if you have three MC they don't investigate. Only if you have three consecutive ones. Nice. That's so caring.

Grrr.

Right, rant over. Sorry ladies. I know there are lots of you having a horrible time out there, so I am passing round an early elevenses (tens-ys?) plate of assorted mini muffins.

x

Morning all,

WYG and Gonnabe - so sorry the RTD got you both. I know exactly what you mean about TTC#1. And I love the name change.

NBelle - hope the cramps have subsided and LAF - hope you're holding up or at least still have people around who are helping you.

Cheepz - sounds like you have a fabulous weekend planned. A well-earned reward for such positive thinking.

Pretty - what a dramatic (and knackering) end to your day! Good on you for chasing after, but yeah probably not a great idea to put yourself in danger.

Anyone got any exciting plans for the weekend (besides Cheepz)? The highlight of my weekend is currently Saturday night settling down to DW with DH and stepdaughter (?DSD). Oh and a trip to my PIL tonight.

First I have to press on with my article on medieval fertility. If acupuncture etc fails to work it appears that the belt of St Godric (lived near Durham) does the trick - it cured a woman of infertility.

I reckon I'm ready to add myself to the list. I'm still on the WTF cycle, but to use LAF's words I'm playing the TTC roulette. So:

Redheadgal TTC#1 UCL 28-30 WTF cycle, CD ??

Oh yeah, sorry for not name checking all, big wave to all those i've missed and handing out miniature crunchies for that Friday feeling.