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bluesatinsash · 03/11/2009 20:11

Come on over, its cosy now mermaid has bought the throws and insulated the greenhouse

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4everhopeful · 04/12/2009 18:37

LOL for a moment I thought you meant in laws were only good at 2am when you are 18 & very drunk! Yea, was partial to a (yuck cant even say the word - k e b a b) occasionally way back when but its one of my real preg turn offs like pork & curry - BARF!

I now feel very guilty for my rant Once the house was fumigated & aired they were really very sweet whilst watching the scan & as much as I smiled sweetly & said not to worry they did feel bad about the smell!

Im also beaming cos while they were here I got a call from our consultant at the Portland, I left a message a couple of days ago as he'd asked us to let him know how we got on, I decided I wouldnt call til past 13 wks, he said he was very happy with our progress & really couldnt see there being a problem now we'd passed our danger times & got to the 2nd trimester [hrin] that it seems the treatment is succesful & hopefully all should be well & we should try not to worry as it all sounds very good! Iv been worried my little twingey pains of the last week might of been my body attacking the baby again & that the treatment may have 'stopped working' he said that pain is normal as the baby comes up from the pelvis & that once the antibodies are created to prevent my body attacking the baby that they last for the gestation, and beyond, and dont just 'run out'! I know this all sounds like gobbledygook but its really good & DH and I were tearing up & grinning like kids, in laws were still here & didnt quite get the relevence, but still sweet . DH is now cheering at the TV about the world cup qualifiers & they said one of the dates would be 12th June next year, all being well, we might just have a little 8 day bubba when it's on!!!! Part of my immense wobble today was not just that its 14weeks & I shit myself, but also 4th dec, which is 6m exactly til due date

Im so sorry for my slightly schizophrenic ramblings today, & also sorry Iv been a bit self indulged, I really intended to post to everyone, I promise I will over the weekend, tomorrow we are finishing last xmas shopping at this little craft market & popping to debenhams in wimbledon, then for a chinese, most active & social I have been with DH for a long long time, much needed, tho will no doubt be very slow & vulnerable feeling

Just have to therefore say to Moon that tomorrow I will be thinking of you my lovely, I hope like Cupcake says that the post edd babydust sparkles all over you (you too Jools & enjoy your weekend lovely). I think Moon that you have been very brave with your colleague, I so shared that pain with you as also had 3 preg colleagues & was so bad when one left with my edd that my manager told me to take the day off. You are really braver & stronger than I think you know.. Have lots of you time & chocolate & wine tomorrow.. Big hug honey xxx

To all my other lovelies Mermaid, Cupcake, Neeko, Blue, Iggy, Barbie, Vjay, Sabs, MLS, Monkey thank you as always for being there & putting up with me! Hope you are all ok & having good fridays, I could not cope without you all x x x x x

4everhopeful · 04/12/2009 22:48

hope i didnt scare u all away with my deranged ramblings! Im very one word - horrormones

mermaidspurse · 05/12/2009 00:38

4ever that is fantastically brilliant news and how ace that your consultant was tackling his must do on a friday list by ringing you and putting big grins on your faces and the start of a lovely weekend.

When you first found the artical on your treatment I can remeber how sure you were that this was your magical passport to sleepless nights and wow 2nd trimester! Sorry I have to say that again, wow second trimester

Well I rushed back to the surgery after they rang to confirm my script was ready. Reversed out the drive and clipped dhs motorbike into the hedge where it teetered, balancing on the hedge with a 2 meter drop a true barbie moment really. After the neighbour came and rescued me, I mean the bike and after being sworn to utter secrecy over said alleged inciddent with bike I rushed to the surgery to be told they have to order it in for monday. So all good and then I fell asleep at 7 woke up at 10 so am now very very awake.

moon Much thoughts and prayers for you today. xxx

4everhopeful · 05/12/2009 05:28

Ah bless ur doc & barbie moment mermaid my chemist had to order it in as well! Wierd insomnia hit u, hope ur asleep again now! I woke at 4am with that mad torso contortion cupcake talked of, literally feel everything moving up & kept arching like a cat! Starving so got up to stop wakin dh, have a cuppa & several biccies, & to post to u mermaid cos was thinkin of things i wanted to tell u! Tis indeed great & lovely of my portland doc to call, i swear consultants never stop, they are amazin, i fear we have been harsh on urs & he is not actually golfing but workin 24/7 deliverin babies & saving the world! Back to what i wanna share, nhs docs advice was avoid all caffeine, im drinkin tetley redbush & not even had coke, also avoid sex for 1st 12wks, tho still too scared! There are oth ways of lookin after dh also at beg i had such vivid dreams & incredible orgasms in sleep other emmsys talked of it too, they dont tell u that in the books! Felt so guilty on dh that i was gettin some & he wasnt, one of only things i never told him! Anyway i digress, also no exercise, nothing more strenuous than a gentle walk, dont allow a temperature, if u do take paracetamol to bring it down (fever, not heat from sun etc!). Hmm, what else? Avoid stress... doh! A little natural anxiety not gonna cause harm tho! Oh & good multi vitamin, i been takin sanatogen mum to be with folic acid forever! Thats the main bits anyway! Was whizzin round my head & as im out today thought id put insomnia to use! Right back to bed ...... Just leaves to say thinkin of u today moon x x x x x

4everhopeful · 05/12/2009 07:04

Still cant sleep! Hope not stating the obvious there mermaid! Also meant to say with cyclogest as it a pessarie up your fanjo once at morn & once at night you need to lay down for an hour afterwards (y'know gravity an all that!). Also a bit yukky, will come out in gooey substance when you stand up again so beware, at night im commando but in morn you may need liners etc! My docs never told me that bit! It made me that your doc had to google it, mine did too, its true what you say, after recurrent mc, as its such a specialised field, suddenly we are the experts (thanks to MN & google & consultants) & Iv have had countless chats with healthcare proffesionals (gps/midwives) that look at me blankly as I reel off the knowledge Iv acquired along the way!

You reminded me of discovering my lymphocyte immunotherapy treatment back in march, after respite trip to egypt after 4th mc & last test to determine still no cause found.. It was actually a thread on MN MC site I stumbled upon first of all, there are still only about 6 posts on there, that talked of the Portland being the only place in the uk that does it & how NHS dont recognise it, but it was a eureka lightbulb penny dropping moment.. However it was followed by a tv prog the next night called 'The great sperm race' that talked of leukocytes (white blood cell/immune system) in your uterus that attack bad sperm & also bad eggs so they dont implant, I thought - thats what they talked about on that MN site! More lightbulbs! That then reminded me that mil had given me a newspaper article after mc3 last July, with the headline 'hope after 8mc' last thing I wanted to see then so I folded it up & hid it put it away, but after my lightbulbs popped on I dug it out & sure enough it was the same thing - that in some women, during pregnancy they dont develop the needed usual antibodies to these leukocytes, to stop them attacking the fetus as an 'unknown body' due to unrecognised DH cells... So a combo of those 3 factors over as many days & 10 days later we were getting tested! I will always vividly remember the Portland cons phoning us (again about 7pm) & saying 'we would benefit from treatment' DH & I were sobbing with joy after 18m of preg & mc & no answers!

At the beg of this preg I was thinking, thats it, we have our cure, but as weeks progressed, I thought, cant be complacent & all the anxieties of the past crept back & I didnt dare believe. Obviously we are also on asprin, cyclogest & bedrest. (In credit to work HR they said if someone told you to hop on one foot to make it work you would wouldnt you, thats when I realised they got it!). Therefore Iv been of the thinking that if this keeps working it could be any one of the above reasons, or the fact this time it IS just meant to be, or a combination of all of them.. However, if next June we do by miracle of god have our baby in our arms, I will be shouting about our 2000 pounds worth of Dr Armstrong & the Portlands miracle treatment from the rooftops, Ill take it to the press & go on This Morning to try & get the NHS to take it on board (Im serious! ) If it helps one more person like me it would be amazing, Mermaid is so right that mc is like the last victorian unspoken taboo & it would be great to change that wouldnt it?!

Anyway, I needed to get that off my chest & will hopefully come back to it to use as an excerpt for an article/book at a later date!!! Really really really gonna try & get a few hours more sleep now!!! x x x x x

4everhopeful · 05/12/2009 07:51

Ridiculously still awake, dh makin me tea! Just wanted to say mermaid, tho hopefuly thats my cause & cure, i still think ur luteal phase maybe urs & the cure for that is cyclogest see what ur cons reckons?! X

CurlyBigPants · 05/12/2009 11:17

Hello lovelies

Just wanted to send a big hug to moon today. I'll be thinking of you and lurking on MN on my phone in case you need to chat. Tomorrow will be better honey xxx

mermaidspurse · 05/12/2009 12:24

Dearest moon just echoing curlys words. Thinking of you.

4everhopeful · 05/12/2009 13:05

Said it earlier but to echo the others.. Thinking of u today moon x

Sabs1981 · 05/12/2009 14:15

I also want to let moon know I'm thinking of her today...

Hope everyone else is well and having a good weekend

cupcakefairy · 05/12/2009 14:30

Aww 4ever your posts were so lovely and it's just amazing your story and how far you've come
Yes, I had the most vivid dreams ever at the start and almost all of them involved sex and orgasms thankfully it was always with dh We have done the deed a few times in the last few weeks but I am still quite scared about what it could do to baby
Sorry to hear about the nasty torso pain and sleeplessness..but how amazing about your consultant am just so pleased for you

mermaid fab that you'll getting the cyclogest too and loved the barbie moment

I have finally bought some more pressies online this morning...getting there Neeko! We're making cards today...

Have to confess I cried yesterday for the first time in ages... bf asked me on the phone how I was and suddenly I was sobbing at her for ages and all this stuff came out about how terrified I am of being a Mum and it's making me low I'm gonna mention it to midwife on Thursday but all just not very pleasant thoughts at the moment.

Moon hope you are ok and feeling a bit peaceful today.

Iggy hope you're not wobbling too much about Monday; thinking of you.

BuddhaBellyBigPants · 05/12/2009 15:46

This is the quickest post I've ever done, but just to let you know Ewan and I came home late Thursday, we are now getting to know each other after such a rough start, but wanted to say thanks so much for the lovely comments I have skim read from you all Hope to update properly and post some pictures for you too
Having some feeding issues but the main thing is WE ARE HOME!!!
Love to you all x x x x

CurlyBigPants · 05/12/2009 15:53

Welcome back Buddha and new mn'er Ewan. We missed you lots

And massive squishy hugs to anyone who needs one today including moon and lovely cupcake. Back later for proper catchup xxx

MrsKate · 05/12/2009 17:20

hi all sorry not been on in ages . i told dh i wanted the bathroom done before lo is here big big mistake lol massive job . il cach up and post again soon xxxx

Neeko · 05/12/2009 17:24

Hi all. RL took over during the past couple of days and it's taken me ages o catch up.

Moon I'm also sending you a huge hug for today. Really hope, like many of us, you've found the actual day easier than the lead-up. Big gold start from me too for the baby stuff buying.

Buddha Welcome home! Hope you and Ewan sort everything out feeding-wise soon. Enjoy those precious first weeks.

4evermorethan14weeks Really glad your Portland Dr made your week. What a journey you've had. You sooo deserve your happy ending.

Mermaid symptoms sound good. Glad to hear your GP is willing to bow down to MN expetise! Now feet up! Loved the Barbie moment

Iggy The on/off symptoms are such a source of worry aren't they? By Monday night you should be grinning from ear to ear though.

Barbie Hope the rugby's going well and you're counting down the days til your mat leave.

MLS Really sorry to hear about your DD. Hope she's doing ok. How's the non-symptom spotting?

LBM Hope the Christmas craft day is going well.

Monkey Glad you know what you want Men find it very difficult to understand. Even at 24 weeks with regular rumbles and kicks I can't quite allow myself to believe that my bum will one day be my dream come true. That's how F*ed up we are.

Curly Hope the days fly past til your mat leave and you finally begin to feel better.

Jools hope you're having a fab weekend. I love Berlin, especially at Christmas. also hope your DP is very pleased to see you when you come home

Better go. We have a DD free night for DH's birthday (though it's not til next week) Going to our favourite restaurant and then really, really, really long lie - Yay!

Neeko · 05/12/2009 17:26

Oops sorry forgot Cupcake . well done on the shopping and hope the cards are going well.

Hi Kate Hope you're DH decorates quicker than mine

BlueMoon1981 · 05/12/2009 17:46

thanks to everyone for all your lovely words, it means such a lot to know you are thinking of me and im not alone.

i had a barbie moment today too mermaid! was changing the bed covers, got frustrated with them and flung them a bit too high, and swiped the light which promptly went out, along with all the rest of the lights in the house . thankfully men know how to fix these things. but then after not crying all day, i suddenly got cross with myself and came downstairs and cried on dp. i don't think he remembered what day it was til i mentioned it, and he wasn't very sympathetic, just said there's no point going over it but apart from that we've had quite a nice day, went to buy a real tree from a christmas tree farm where they had 2 reindeers and a baby reindeer, awwww. takeaway and a bottle glass of wine tonight me thinks.

welcome home buddha

bluesatinsash · 05/12/2009 17:48

V. quick from me as I'm off out tonight with girls which to be honest I'd rather swap for a(nother) night on the couch

Just wanted to welcome back Buddha and baby Ewan. You must be so delighted to be home Hope the midwives are helping you with the feeding? There's also La Leche League you can phone or your local Breastfeeding Councillor - you should be able to Goggle them... Hope you're getting to know every inch of his body

4ever - you are indeed our resident expert . Love reading your eureka moments and remember well when you posted about the treatement early in the year. Hope your house has got rid of the last of the kebab smell - eugh! Big shout out to your consultant too

Neeko - enjoy your DD free night and long lie - bliss.....

Cupcake - glad you're speaking to your midwife about your fears, they are perfectly natural btw...

Mermaid - sssh! re: DH's bike .

And finally big hugs to you Moon - the year is nearly out and 2010 is all fresh and ready for you to grab with both hands x

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mermaidspurse · 05/12/2009 18:45

Buddha so lovely to think of ewan, you and dh all snuggled up at home. I bet you can't believe you are home yet and have counted and recounted toes, fingers and wondered how just one person can change as babygro. Well done for getting through the last week you must both be utterly exhausted. Enjoy. Lots of rest and no lifting.xx

moon takeaway and wine sounds just the ticket and I always find a nicely laundered bed works miracles

neeko enjoy your night out, glad you are ok, no cooking at 8 in the morning this weekend then

cupcake at those dreams girl.
I think its thse bloody hormones again go with them cry let it out. It loads better. And it is scary facing up to being a mum or a dad. Its a bit like the start of a really scary race that takes an age to start. Don't worry it will all be ok.

dh has been given some lovely fresh scallops and I can't eat them can I?

littlebellsmum · 05/12/2009 21:07

Hello everyone - we currently have a sleepover here and I'm not sure that the 4 dc's are asleep yet!!

monkeysmum Hello! And yes, wrapping paper done today, along with biscuits and peppermint creams and some little christmas finger puppets that the DC's found. Assuming I can find my luggage labels, we will be doing gift tags - done them since DD was 3 I think ( or maybe 2?). Use potato prints, paint and then glue and glitter. Top tip is to do it in a plastic box to contain the mess!! And be very controlling/ quick!! Tomorrow are doing some jam jars to fill with the biscuits and hopefully get the kids to make their own cards. And that should be most of the Christmas stuff done - with the exception of more sweet stuff for presents!!

Barbie Believe me, by the time you are in labour, you could s* for England in front of the rugby squad and you won't care!! It is really not a dignified process!

Neeko Icing fixes all cakes! Enjoy the lie in and don't be on here tonight!

Mermaid Your gp story is hilarious!! Well done for not making him feel too stupid and that you did know what you are talking about! So pleased you have

Cupcake Your fears are perfectly normal but you'll be just fine. Many people worry about the birth - don't , there are drugs for that. However when you get home..... ah well, there's always alcohol for that ! I think it's better to be worried - if you think it's all going to be really easy, that's when you have a huge shock.

4ever 14 weeks - wow. I think you are just 10 days behind me! It's great to hear how well things are going and how confident your consultant is. I loved your long posts the other morning to mermaid - should be 4evertheexpert Good luck for Monday - not that you need it, everything is going to be fine

Blue - before too long you are going to be telling this LO to hurry up - which would be ironic after all the fun you've had!

MLS Depending on how you feel about the Tweenies, their christmas vid is good ( but then I like the Tweenies) and we have Mikeys Christmas carol which is also good - all second hand from charity shops of course!!

Finally - Moon I hope you are now sat with a large cold glass of something alcholic. Your barbie story was funny - you're probably right, your DP probably had forgotten. I'm sure that mine had. I'm not sure who was talking about magic post edd babydust but it got me too - this LO was concieved 4 days after my edd.

Buddha Welcome home - hopefully, now you can start enjoying being a mum. Blue gave some great advice about people who can help. The NCT also has breastfeeding counsellers and a helpline where you can just phone and speak to someone. There are also loads of people here who will have similar challenges and will give you lots of useful advice. I struggled to feed both my DC's and one of the best pieces of advice I got was that at the end of the day, what's important is that you have a healthy happy baby, irrespective of how you feed them. Obviously I didn't believe them at the time and still felt rubbish about it but you've been through a lot and might need to go easy on yourself.

Hi to everyone I've missed and I need to go and check on the bedroom from hell!!

littlebellsmum · 05/12/2009 21:08

iggy Sorry - hope Monday goes well. Now get your head back into the lovely sand!

CurlyBigPants · 05/12/2009 22:07

buddha so glad you are home now with young Ewan. Take care lovely and let us know how you are getting on

annie hope you and ellis are having a lovely time getting to know each other

mermaid just realised from your dates that you are exactly 6 months behind me - to the day lucky sign I reckon!!! Teared up at your dh's reaction and hug How are you feeling now? Here's my hand till the 14th xxx

lovely moon takeout and wine sounds like a good plan. Soon enough you won't be able to drink Try not to worry about DP's reaction, my dh wanted to go off on a lad's football weekend on our EDD. In the end he didn't (only because he had too much work to do) and just as well, because that's when we conceived our little one . I think some men can't bear to dwell on stuff, their way of handling things is to find a practical solution. Hang in there honey. This awful time will get better soon

jools I'm so happy that the tablets are kicking in, but hope you are getting some sleep. Great to hear that you and DP are doing well too, god knows this whole last year must have put so much stress on both of you. 40 is going to be a very happy age for you though, I'm sure of it Hope you are having a lovely weekend in Berlin

MLS hope you have got over me propositioning you . I never got a hugely strong line on the OPKs, they can be tricky to use I think. Is there any hope this month then that you bd'd at the right time? Hope dd is okay the poor little love

baking come back and tell us all about your hols

iggy hope the sickness is improving honey Will be thinking of you Monday xxx

blue thanks for making me feel better about the swine flu jab. I was just thinking I haven't heard anything about it in the last couple of weeks since I got the jab. Don't even know anyone who has it. Still wondering if I've done the right thing lol at your practice poo

neeko you would be proud of me today. I've wrapped all the pressies we have so far and even plan to do more shopping tomorrow Your mention of baby annabelle made me blush. I was looking for baby hangers on ebay so I could hang up the new clothes that we got in the nursery and accidentally bid on baby annabelle hangers - who knew she was a doll eh??!!! Can I have some of that cake please?

lbm potato waffles are definitely gourmet, as is anything microwavable from M&S
sabs I still think about scamper and VM and wonder whether they are doing okay Hope hoping is doing okay, I love the hat Sorry to hear that your nan isn't well. Alzheimers is so hard xxx

cupcake honey, it's probably the hormones I've had a few funny moments and I think once you get through the initial panicky stages when all focus is on not having a MC, then reality can hit home. Definitely talk to the midwife, if only for reassurance. Being pregnant is scary and wonderful all at the same time. Don't be hard on yourself, make sure DH is spoiling you ok

4ever I loved your hyper posts earlier Hope you get a better nights sleep tonight though. I was thinking of you too when DH said that I looked like a weeble in my new coat It's so lovely to see you happy btw

barbie great news that you are starting mat leave early You can really enjoy xmas now and get stuck into that nesting Interesting what midwife said about 28 - 32 weeks, I've been sick every night after a slight improvement previously, and I feel so knackered and massive. Starting to panic about level of growth as I was barely showing a month ago

mrskate diy is evil. Step away from the bathroom

graciegirl how are you feeling now that you are off? Glad you got away from work

VJ how is the lovely AJ hope ds1 hasn't caught nasty cold too

lion smiling at thought of arlo sleeping on mummy. Tis a lovely picture

monkeysbum we just got you back, make sure you keep lurking as we want to be there for your good news lol at your glitter poo Did you watch LA in the end. I need to go out and buy the dvd!! Enjoy your champagne.

Big waves to MM ginger and scorpio and anyone I have missed.

Anyone watch xfactor tonight. I reckon Danyl will go

CurlyBigPants · 05/12/2009 22:10

Took me so long to catch up and write that post that I've just realised that I've been watching rod stewart on tv for the last hour... ew

CurlyBigPants · 05/12/2009 22:11

and now he's stroking his nipples.. double ew yuck yuck yuck I'm off to bed

Sabs1981 · 05/12/2009 22:35

curly rod stroking nipples?! ew! I watched X-factor as well, and all of them were really good today, I have no idea whose going to go...

DH watching the Aamir Khan fight now...!

Have a good night