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Assisted conception (and the bits in between!) - part 4 - all welcome

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mummycat1 · 28/10/2009 19:39

Starting new thread with massive congratulations to Nanoo I reckon the old man can wait till he gets home! But of course - it's up to you really xxx

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Italiangreyhound · 14/03/2010 22:23

NewMember I?m afraid I have not actually had ICSI yet and not yet even had IVF, we had IUI for DD. I must say it is not quite so terrible as it sometimes appears. I mean by that that it can be OK, if you are fortunate and it works quite quickly. In the meantime, while you are waiting, I would suggest (as I am sure you will) look into all the ways of making DP?s sprm more lively. This might be diet, cutting out things that are not helpful and all kinds of other stuff. There is a charity called Foresight which may have some interesting insights but which I cannot personally recommend as I have not really had any connection to them. There is also a commercial clinic called Marilyn Glenville clinic in London (which we attended and got some supplements from) and of course dear old/young Zita West ? who I met in person at the fertility show in London and who was most impressive as a lovely and helpful person and seems to know her stuff. As I said before on here, she said to go with when the man wants to have sx ? as long as you are willing of course, as this is when his ?essence? (avoiding the word gravy Cerubina) is at its best for baby making. Anyway, 24 months is time (actually it is 19 isn?t it and I really hope it will come round sooner) to be able to change a lot and see if anything works. Keep all your options open. Good luck.

Amberc thank you for your sympathy and of course I want to express sympathy for you too. My dad?s death was a long time ago (6 years this summer) and he had a good life. He died in his arm chair watching TV, which he loved to do. I was very sad but having had a bit to do with human rights campaigning (Amnesty International, Christian Solidarity Worldwide etc) I know that there are much worse ways to go. I miss him but I also feel very positive about the future and I was lucky that my DH and dear sis have been very supportive. I was pregnant with DD at the time he died, this meant he never got to meet her, which I think was very sad. He was also not a Christian, which saddens me a lot. He was an open sort of person, loving, kind, hard-working. He was great and we were very similar in terms of both personality (meaning we did not always get on!) and looks. One thing that saddens me a little is that if I do have a baby as a result of this egg donation treatment they will probably not have any resemble my parents or I at all. But I kind of feel that two pale Italiangreyhounds in the world are enough and what I would love is a baby, a new start of life not just a reminiscence of the past. I am not sure what my dad would have thought of what I am doing now but I am fairly sure he would have listened for a while and then settled back to watch the TV, which is fine by me!

KiwiKat 22nd that is the day of my scan to check my womb lining is getting nice and juice. Good luck with your blood test. I think the word ?test? always makes it sound like an exam, will your blood and my womb get all the answers right! Let?s hope so.

Italiangreyhound · 14/03/2010 22:35

I think Mother?s Day is often a very hard day for people who are not mum?s. Today in church we got our little potted plant but we also prayed for people who have not become mums and want to, for people separated from their children by prison etc, people in poverty not able to feed their kids and mums who have lost their little ones. It was a sobering reminder of how hard this can all be and I just wanted to say to those not yet mums, hang on in there and I am thinking of you all on this and the feisty forty thread and beyond.

Bumpless · 14/03/2010 23:35

Kiwi yay for your two superembies! Hope you survive the remaining week without too much stressing. Any interesting symptoms?

Isle so sorry that you?re in the dark pit of yuck. I can see why, you?ve had such a horrible time. The feeling of being held back is the worst one in the world for me, if you?re anything like me, you just feel this sense of suppressed frenzy and attempt to plan a billion other things as a surrogate for getting on with the thing you really want to (ie: the rest of your life) or, when that doesn?t work, sink into a black place. Have you got any short term plans for any good stuff?

Idream ? yes, I know what you mean about running out of emotions. I?ve actually found this 2WW quite easy. I?ve run out of ability to angst, having angsted for England up to ET. It?s like, I?ve done absolutely everything I possibly can, right down to the sci-fi extreme of accepting donor embryos into my body, I really can?t do any more to have a family, so I've become fatalistic. (Or possibly it?s a drugged trance.) LoL to your clinic story! And I?m really impressed re your writing! Let us know how your short story does in the comp! What a talented bunch of ladies on here. I've had a self-help book published (not about infertility although perhaps that should be my next attempt!)and got 3 chapters into a novel which I lost when my laptop was stolen, wich might have been a blessing in retrospect. I've always imagined starting to write again if I ever go on maternity leave, but you've inspried me - maybe I should just start anyway!

Cerubina your ZW appointment sounds great. I saw their nutritionalist last year. Isn?t it just so refreshing when someone medical really listens and focuses on you? Fingers xed you get an early appointment with the m/c consultant. So glad your massage provided some therapy as well as relaxation! Your sis?s comment? uhhhhh?

Riggly re DH?s swimmers, we?ve been told the same, rumpy pumpy every 2 days when trying naturally throughout the cycle, and pre IVF/ICSI, abstinence for 3 days before DH?s date with the plastic cup. Good luck for your scan on Thurs!

Amberc v impressed with your healthy you plan! Definitely worth it, not just because it gives you the best shot at getting updiffed, but also just for you! I need to get on top of the comfort eating. She says, having eaten 2 slices of clemantine and chocolate cake today ? but then I did cook Mothers Day lunch for my MIL and the whole tribe of 3 brothers so I needed it! Sounds like you went through a terrible time with your dads illness ? so sorry. You have a lot of self-awareness about it, I hope it?s helping you deal with the impacts it?s had on you.

Dueling glad the jabs are getting easier. I?m a big fan of letting DHs take the strain on this bit, and got mine to do everything inc the injecting ? it ensured he was involved and was less stressful for me. Know what you mean about the abstract weirdness of this process though.

MercenaryMom well done for getting yourself a massage too! The shrub in the garden sounds beautiful and very positive - I hope it' a step on the road towards closure on the mc for you.

NewMember didn?t you post on here a while ago? I vaguely remember! To echo what others have said, we?ve had ICSI and neither of you will experience anything different to standard IVF. It?s just another method of introducing the sperm to the egg. Ways your DH can try to improve his baby gravy include cutting out alcohol and caffeine, taking Wellman or other zinc-containing supplements, eating god protein like nuts for snacks and avoiding hot baths and tight pants. My DH went from an ICSI to a normal sample with a course of antibiotics to clear up a suspected low-level infection ? this was given to us by our clinic in Greece and isn?t normal practice on the NHS, but could be worth asking, he also had a couple of acupuncture appointments too.

Well, my test day is tomorrow. Not sure whether I?ll POAS first or not. Been having tremendous hot flushes, waking up at night with drenched sheets, all week till my genius acupuncturist sorted that out yesterday. I think my hypothetical bladder sprain probably was a bit of uterine cramping, it?s stopped now but I do feel full and swollen there, easy to imagine something?s happening ? but just as likely to all be drug side-effects! Hey ho.

I think you're all lovely too!

Italiangreyhound · 15/03/2010 00:58

Bumpless absolutely everything crossed for you for tomorrow. Whatever happens wishing you all the very best, remember the positive orange vibes and have a nice glass of OJ first thing or something similar. - thinking of Meeny, Miney and Mo!!! Shooting up an arrow prayer before off to bed. Most of all thinking of you.

Amberc · 15/03/2010 08:50

Bumpless - have you done it yet?!!!!!!!!! I have to go out at 9.30 till this afteroon and I won't be able to concentrate on anything waiting for your answer!!

Cerubina · 15/03/2010 08:56

Enough of the baby gravy already! Please! Isn't there an emoticon for sticking fingers in ears and going la-la-la?

Bumpless I will have all digits crossed for you today. We are all rooting for your test - really hope it goes your way.

DuelingFanjo · 15/03/2010 10:58

Bumpless good luck

kiwi good luck also. This is all so exciting.

I have had my first scan since starting the injections and trying not to be negative. Only 6 Follicles. 5 on one side and only one on the other (!!) the biggest is 17mm already and the smallest (which is the single one on the right side) is 9mm.

I know it only takes one good egg but I am quite sad that we haven't managed to get into double figures. I also don't really trust the woman who did the scan. She is the same one who was so unsympathetic when she scanned me when I was pregnant and couldn't find a heartbeat. She is a Doctor apparently but seems so flustered and I got the impression that the staff at the clinic don't trust her - there was some kerfuffle over missing notes and some nurses came in and checked her esk when she wasn't there even though she said she definitely didn't have them. Also they asked her if she needed a chaperone!!?

Anyway... am going back on Friday and looks like we are all on schedule for the egg collection despite the low number of follicles.

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DuelingFanjo · 15/03/2010 11:44

Thank you LondonLottie,
I don't know if you rememebr me as Beanieb - we were in the same ante-natal thread at one time.

I have just searched and found some really encouraging stories from people who have had a low no of follicles but still went on to have a baby, or twins!

My AMH is low so I will be more positive and less gloomy about this

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capricorn76 · 15/03/2010 12:28

Hi guys,

As this thread is over 90 pages I decided to just join and read from here

I'm waiting for AF to arrive on Wednesday so that I can start my IUI. They're starting me off on Fostimon 75 which I have to inject. I've been reading about it and it seems as though most woman are on Clomid tablets but I was wondering if anyone had experience of IUI with Fostimon? I'm really excited!

Thanks in advance and good luck to all.

Bumpless · 15/03/2010 12:47

Duelling you're doing fantastically. I remember your AMH results - they were quite similar to mine and you're growing more follies than I managed. Completely normal to feel overwrought but your ovaries are coming through for you - just hang in there! Eat nice proteiny things and relax (I know, HAH!) and lets see if those smaller ones can catch up too.

welcome Capricorn and good luck for your cycle! sorry I can't answer your question, but someone who can will be along soon I'm sure.

Well girls, this morning I cracked and POAS ahead of my blood test. I can't quite believe it, but it's a BFP. My first ever one! I don't think I know how to process it yet. I actually hid the test from my DH and then brought it out shame-facedly to show him. I need to hear whether the bloods confirm it to really believe it, I think. Thanks so much for all your good vibes and to Italian for your arrow!

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DuelingFanjo · 15/03/2010 13:05

Thank you thank you thank you all for all the positive posts. If I could kiss you I would.

welcome Capricorn - I don't have any experience but like Bumpless says someone here will.

Bumpless - that's BRILLIANT news. Am so so excited for you and hope that you and your DH are dancing with joy

pumpkinjoy · 15/03/2010 13:05

Bumpless WOOOOOOWWWWWW!!!!
That is fab, fantastic absolutely, brilliant news!! Have been away for the weekend and just catching up with the thread-was too eager to discover your news so had to fast forward to your post today so will now have to 'step back' and read the others!
Big hugs to all xxxx

Amberc · 15/03/2010 13:24

woooohoooooo!! Bumpless no more - how amazing for you and DH. I am pea green with envy! Well done my love! ooh - I wonder how many....

DF - I only had two follicles and got two eggs out. You never know there might be an egg in each!

I'm in such a good mood now after bumpless's news- and I lost 3 lb at weightwatches, and the sun is shining - hurrah!

Italiangreyhound · 15/03/2010 13:32

Bumpless or sound I say Bumpety WELL DONE, you super super star . There are just no words. I am so encouraged on every account and in every way and I want to cry!

Amber well done on follicles and diet, amazing result, top notch.

Hi to Capricorn I am at work so no time to catch up now but will do so at home. Just logged in to see how Bumpety was doing (feel free to not use that name!) and wow, gobsmacked with delight.

Horton · 15/03/2010 15:39

Oh Bumpless, that is fantastic news! Huge congratulations! When do you get the bloods result?

pumpkinjoy · 15/03/2010 16:12

Hello-just back from work so thought I would 'check in'.

Capricorn A BIG HELLO! I am also relatively new here, but everyone has made me feel very welcome straight away and a lovely bunch of girls. I am also planning IUI and have been told with clomid (but I do ovulate allegedly so am unsure why this is the case) We have an appt to see fertility nurses at the clinic this friday so will ask lots of questions and can ask about Fostimon. Also on the waiting list for IVF but eager to try ANYTHING in meantime. Getting frustrated now

Amberc-Well done you-I also have to lose quite a few pounds to improve my chances so have started being sensible (!) today.

Bumpety sounds good Italian! Could also be Little Miss Bump !! Feel another load of different versions coming your way very soon!

Best go- got to watch Dancing On ice on catch up!!-So so sad I know but it's all a release thing, therapy-honest! xxxx

PerfectDromedary · 15/03/2010 16:19

Just wanted to say huge, massive, enormous congratulations to the no-longer-Bumpless. Really wonderful, hopeful news. Will have everything crossed for you with the blood test. Can't imagine how brilliant it feels to see a BFP!

Off to have a little happy cry at my desk.

Caitni · 15/03/2010 16:51

Oh Bumpless - absolutely delighted to hear your good news . In fact, it made me cry (in a good way ), such an amazing result after your bravery and good spirits through this journey to parenthood xxx

Cerubina · 15/03/2010 16:59

Bumpless! What brilliant news! You must be reeling from the shock and joy and a thousand emotions. Well done you - so happy for you. Hope you and your OH have a lovely time celebrating this evening, you must be so chuffed. Go go foetuses!

DuelingFanjo · 15/03/2010 17:00

just a quick question, can someone quickly explain to me how they stop me from ovulating the eggs? Is it the suprecur? Am paranoid that I will ovulate before I get to egg collection - does that eve happen?

Still grinning at your news Bumpless

Penguindreams · 15/03/2010 17:37

Just poking my head back in to say CONGRATS to Soontobebumpy (Bumpless doesn't work as of today)! Fantastic news, so pleased for you. Now, 1, 2 or 3...?!

capricorn76 · 15/03/2010 18:34

Hi guys,

Thanks for the nice welcome and congratulations to Bumpless!! Hopefully your good news will be a good omen for the rest of us.

@ Amberc well done on the weight loss. The doctors also told me that they would prefer me to have a BMI of about 24-25 (I'm currently 27) so I'm trying to lose a stone. I've lost a bit and feel way better.

@Pumpkinjoy, good luck for Friday. I will probably be injecting from about Friday so I'll let you know how it goes. I'm on a tight schedule as the hospital booked me in for 3 IUI's then 3 IVFs from June. I'm hoping I don't need the IVF but like you I'm about ready to try anything and I'm pretty frustrated especially as I can't open Facebook or walk down the street without seeing expectant mothers at the moment!! Its been a long journey but we'll all get through it. Good luck

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