Watch out, this is a long one.
Bumpless I am so thrilled that it went well for you in Greece, and the spermies managed to do the fertilising without intervention. Your donor really was a star, both in terms of her egg-producing and sentiments towards you. I bet she will cherish that necklace and card you gave her: I imagine plenty of people aren?t as thoughtful, especially when the donors are ?foreign?. Look after yourself during the next two weeks, eat lots of lovely nourishing food and think positively. Really hope this is it for you xx.
Well done to Kiwi on getting two fertilised! Great news. But you really could have done without the meltdown of your DH I?m sure. Do you think he has been reading those news stories recently about ICSI being over-prescribed? The Daily Telegraph had a good dollop of Daily Mail-style panic-spreading about it and my mum seemed to swallow it whole so she was trying to suggest (gently) that we should avoid it next time. Anyway it is done now, and I hope ET went well. Also, hopefully in a couple of weeks? time whatever your boss thinks she knows about the reasons for your time off won?t matter to you at all because you?ll be up the duff!
Idream I hear what you are saying about sometimes feeling besieged with babies and bumps and kiddiwinks. I remember waiting for my usual train home last year and seeing a hugely pregnant woman standing next to me I immediately felt raging jealousy and decided that whichever end of the carriage she got on, I?d sit at the other. So I duly turned left when she turned right, and sat down in a group of 6 seats only to realise immediately that there were no fewer than THREE quite heavily pregnant women sitting there. Sometimes you can?t get away from it. I keep reminding myself that a lot of the women smugly rubbing their bumps may well have been in our shoes a year ago, not everyone you see who is pg breezed straight into it after all. But I hope you get to buy your little babygro before too long anyway and that in the meantime you?re not still mopping out your cellar!
LL how lovely to hear about your little girls and you just sound as though you are beaming, despite the lateness of that post! Hope you were up because you wanted to see the frocks at the Oscars, rather than being kept up by naughty twins. Did you see what Jennifer Lopez was wearing? Quelle horreur...
Riggly, how are the injections going? Are you getting a bit more expert at them now, so you can do them while you?re doing your mascara? We women are good at multi-tasking after all. Any side effects yet or still feeling normal? I would take that as good luck if that is you, surely no one wants the bloating or psycho moods really.
I can?t help Isle with war stories of laparoscopies as haven?t had to have one of those, but all sounds positive from the others and if your doctor thinks it is worth a shot then (within reason) perhaps it is. It doesn?t sound as though your doc would be gung ho about subjecting you to awful treatments if there wasn?t value in it ? she sounds as though she has integrity. You asked lots of good questions in your appointment and by the sounds of it all the noises back were positive. It does make sense how you feel relieved that the long unsuccessful months were unsuccessful for a reason, and now you have a way forward, we all hope.
MM, how are you feeling now? You sound well focused on the next attempt, which I think is very positive. I would definitely try to speak to the consultant to have a de-brief on what you thought went well and not well (apart from the obvious) and discuss how they compared against your expectations. I?m sure they would value your feedback if you thought they had set you up to expect things would be different and they ought to work on that.
So Amberc how is the first day of the healthy regime going so far? I hope you have managed to pop all your supplements at least. I bought some new Wellman supplements for DH today ? I noticed that they have spotted the gap in the market and brought out a Conception range for men as well as women. I fell for it like a sucker and paid £9.95 (normal Wellman are £7.50) ? it looks basically the same but with some L-Carnitine, L-Arginine and pine bark extract. We shall see how we go! Do you plan to try again with IVF at some point, and do you have a timeframe in mind? Hope I am not being pushy when you just want to chill out for a bit.
Welcome Pumpkin and sorry that you find yourself here. I think it can be a bit of a shock to the system when people first start talking to you about IVF being your best chance. I know it was for me ? from quite an early stage in TTC I had built it up in my mind as an absolute worst case scenario and I didn?t know how I would be able to gear up for it. I did need a bit of time to do so, but in the end as you say you will just do whatever it takes, and this thread is brilliant for when we are having wobbles. Clomid and IUI could be a good combo to try in the meantime ? maybe you wouldn?t need full blown IVF as it obviously does work for some!
Welcome back Dueling. Feels as though you?ve been gone a while! For what it?s worth, I think cutting out booze is probably a good step to take. I was teetotal from the beginning of the year until Friday night (finally gave in to alcohol having confirmed there was no baby to harm) and who knows, maybe it helped us to conceive in the first place. I didn?t even find it THAT hard to do, which surprised me. Having said that, it is probably easier in Jan/Feb hibernation months than it would be in summertime!
We had a pretty good weekend, all things considered. I feel a bit brighter about things again after a fairly horrible day on Friday. I still don?t know what course of action to take though, whether to say ?yes? to an ERPC so that I would be booked in should that become necessary, or wait and see. It doesn?t help that I tried to get an appointment with my GP to un-tell them about being pg and couldn?t get an appointment until next Monday. What is the sodding use of that? So I suppose I have to see what happens.
Felt quite proud of myself/surprised at myself when we went to visit friends (with 3 children, natch) and went through the whole visit of 24 hours without even letting on that we had had another m/c. I thought I would be unable to keep it in and make everyone uncomfortable by having a meltdown, but it really just didn?t come up. A year ago I couldn?t have kept it to myself (frankly wouldn?t have been able to go and see friends with little ones at this point) so perhaps that shows I am dealing with this one better. After my abstinence from booze, I rather undid the good work on Saturday night and had far too much to drink through feeling a bit ?what the hell? about it, so am back on the wagon again now! Nothing like a hangover for reminding you why not drinking is good for you.
Hope everyone is well. Hi to Italian, Penguin and anyone else I have missed.