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The First Time Frolickers! More stories of TTC#1. All welcome!

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ImmaterialGirl · 04/09/2009 12:13

A new thread for the First Time Frolickers and anyone else who wants to join in.

If you have been lurking for a while then now is the time to join!

Onwards for more BFP's!!

OP posts:
WhiteRoses · 05/11/2009 12:16

Hi Fulamgirl,

I'm sorry to hear about your miscarriage. I can imagine it must be something you'd worry about anyway but having already been through it before, you must be twice as bad. But still, trying to be positive, you know why you miscarried before and have eliminated the cause this time around so hopfully this time things will be fine. You must be so excited about your scan! Have you told people yet?

I've been off the pill now for about a year, so am hoping it's out of my system... I was on and off it quite a bit because I suffered sickness as a side effect but for about the last two or three years, I took it constantly. Suppose there's no way of knowing but waiting is frustrating!

WhiteRoses · 05/11/2009 12:26

Kkas,

We were staying in my parents' bed last month at one point (they were away and we were teenage sister/cat sitting). Just couldn't bring ourselves to do it! Slightly different if it's your own bed though, I think, so good luck at the weekend!

sevans · 05/11/2009 14:46

Yorkshire - sorry about AF. She's a real bummer, isn't she! Treat yourself to something real nice this week!

I was pretty dry this cycle and tried the grapefruit juice thing but really couldn't bring myself to drink a whole lot of it. So I have no idea if it would have worked for me. I decided next cycle (hopefully there is NOT a next cycle ) to get preseed in case I am dry again. I've heard Clomid can make you pretty dry so maybe that is what happened to me. aly, did you order your preseed online. I've only been to Walgreens and didn't see it there. I'm not sure if the chain stores even carry it.

I think I mentioned my doctor wanted me to come in 10 days later for a test if no period. That would be next Friday which is CD 35. If no AF, I decided to try and hold out until CD 32 before doing a hpt. That is next Tuesday. I really hope I don't cave in and do one this weekend. How do you girls deal with this every month! This is my first month and I am soooooo anxious!!!

YorkshireTeaDrinker · 05/11/2009 22:37

Thanks ladies. DH is being a sweetie tonight. He got home from work very late, but still made supper, washed up and kept me supplied with wine and chocolate whilst I sat with my feet up. I'll have to chanel all the affection I currently feel for him into the forthcoming bonkathon (we'll have to be quick off the mark, cos I ovulated surprising early this month and we missed our opportunity).

Am a bit confused by the grapefruit juice? when are you supposed to drink it and what's the supposed effect?

aly323 · 06/11/2009 03:22

Sevans, I order my preseed online. I get the tube that comes with empty applicators. They also have prefilled applicators, but it seems wasteful to me. I vary the amount I use and don't want to be stuck throwing any out. There are some deals on amazon where you can get it at a discount with cheapie HPT's and OPK's. I think it's pretty pricey, but I like it. I'll like it even more if I eventually get my BFP!

You asked how we deal with waiting to test. I've done the same thing each month so far. I promise myself that I'll wait, then I convince myself that opk's are ok and do some of those, then I move onto HPTs, but I don't tell anyone about them. Then, I get af, but try to deny it and take a few more HPT's before my temp drop. It sucks.

Yorkshire, your DH sounds like a sweetheart. It's so nice when they understand and try to make us feel better!

WhiteRoses, I am a ripe old 35, but soon to be 36. I was on Norplant for 5 years, then on depo shots for a couple of months, then, I was on the pill for about 12 years. I've never really been off birth control long enough to get a good feel for my body. I've been off the pill since May. My cycle returned to normal almost immediately and stayed perfect for three months, then, the last two months went wonky. I wish I had started TTC much younger, but wasn't in the right place in my life and DEFINITELY had not met the right person.

Ozziegirly · 06/11/2009 03:35

Morning everyone, wow, lots of posts here, it's nice to see this thread busy.

Re grapefruit juice yorkshire, it's supposed to increase EWCM. I find it does - and also figure if it's an old wive's tale it can't hurt. I don't really like it either but just down a quick glass in the morning.

Nothing new from me - too early for symptoms yet I would imagine and yet at least a week off testing.

Have a good weekend everyone.

aly323 · 06/11/2009 03:49

I plan to do some experimenting with grapefruit juice next cycle, assuming no bfp this month. I may like it a little better with some sodawater added. I also hear that sprite, sugar or grenadine can help the taste. I'll probably also try mixing it with some kind of sweeter juice. I'll let you all know how it goes. Yuck, I hate grapefruit.

WhiteRoses · 06/11/2009 08:10

Aww, Yorkshire, how nice! Brownie points all round there! Unfortunately I didn't even see DH last night as he was out at work until 5:30pm and I was out at work from 2:30pm onwards.

Aly, the way you're talking you'd think you were much older than 35! I think the most important thing is that you're in the right place in your life anyway, and with the right person, which you are. It's a lucky baby born into that.

About the grapefruit - totally empathise! I'm in the middle of a 26hr shift at work just now though so haven't been out to buy any - will do on my way home later. Ugh!

I've done a Friday list... Hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes but just thought seeing as I'm first on...

Friday's list:
Sky27 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 24? CD71
chico193 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL36 CD49
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL26/7 CD45
Aly323 TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL 30 CD34
Muser TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD33
honeymoo TTC#1 cycle? UCL? CD33
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD33
chalky3 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL35 CD32
Sevans TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL? CD28
Curlycasper TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL? CD23
ImmaterialGirl TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL25-28 CD23
Spirael TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL28 CD23
Ozziegirly TTC#1 cycle UCL 27 CD19
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL28-39? CD17
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 4 UCL?? CD13
pixiestix TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL28 CD13
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 (taking a short break from ttc) cycle 6 UCL29-31 CD8
whiteroses TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL23-49 CD6
YorkshireTeaDrinker TTC#1 Cycle 13 UCL 30 CD3
Confuseddoiordonti TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL 27-28 CD?
TishTosh21 TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL? CD?

*Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct

zippys · 06/11/2009 09:07

Morning everyone,

whiteroses thank you for the updated list - you are not stepping on anyones toes at all I am very impressed with your dedication to ttc with no alcohol etc, I think that would put too much pressure on us at the moment but if nothing happens soon I may be joining you. With regards to frequency of sex. I have had a couple of funny cycles so it is difficult fot to tell when I am due to ovulate so go for the every other night - every night would be too tiring! and every three days just seems too long. I have been resisting OPK's as I think I will just stress more but again give me a couple of months and I am sure I will be there!

Sevans celebrating ovulation is not at all silly - it is exciting! How are you coping with the waiting? Any symptoms yet? I agree re the screen, or even easier an indicator like a light switch somewhere on your body that tells you when to have sex to conceive!

Spireal what are your thoughts re ovulation now - whats happening to your temp? Not much more advice I can offer I am afraid but here if you want a moan

Yorkshire so sorry about AF, your DH does sound lovely, have you been to the docs at all yet? I am unsure how long to leave it before I go as I dont want to leave it too long but also dont want to get told I am too early!

kkas I hope you are enjoy the weekend

aly I have been very similar to you, came off the pill in May, had two normal cycles and then been haywire since then! It is so frustrating.

I dont like grapefruit juice either may start trying it with soda water, as although I had dood ewcm last month not seen any this month so far, but if my cycle is on a long month then not due to ovulate till next wednesday anyway (and already been on bonkathon for a week!!)

I had a bad fews days this week as work has been pretty stressful, and I keep seeing pregnant woman everywhere - just want to sit down and cry and scream at the same time!! Just feel so negative at the moment like it will never happen!!

Sorry for rant dont know what came over me

WhiteRoses · 06/11/2009 10:34

Hi Zippys,

We're lucky with the no alcohol thing in that we weren't big drinkers in the first place and what with trying to save like mad anyway, we've not been going out nearly as much as we used to.

I really feel for you with the seeing pregnant women everywhere. It's just insane! I'm sure there never used to be so many! Anyway, with the work thing, it's nearly the weekend so hopefully you'll be able to unwind a bit and have a good one. [hug]

Spirael · 06/11/2009 10:50

Morning all.

Well, my temperatures have stayed up for the last few days, so it looks like ovulation did happen at some point. Trying to look between temperatures and sporadic EWCM (ignoring the OPKs that seem not to work for me) then I can make a tentative guess that ovulation might have happened over Halloween... Spooky?

DH and I DTD both days at the weekend, so if it did happen then, I guess I have a chance for this cycle. Unfortunately, if AF arrives on time then it gives me a short luteal phase for this month, which as far as I understand makes successful implantation unlikely.

Nothing in the way of symptoms, so I think I'm going to resign myself to believing this cycle is a bust. At least that way I won't feel too disappointed when AF shows up next week! I've gotten myself some Evening Primrose Oil for the beginning of next cycle and might start on the grapefruit as well.

Does anyone know... Does it have to be grapefruit juice or could I actually eat half a grapefruit per day? I'm trying to follow SlimmingWorld and fruit juice takes up valuable syns. ;) Grapefruit isn't my favourite fruit, but I don't particularly mind it.

Is there a vitamin B or some such that's supposed to help increase the luteal phase? Anyone know anything about it? I might give it a try!

Spirael · 06/11/2009 10:58

Just to add, I'm pretty much same as you WhiteRoses. DH and I aren't big drinkers anyway, and alcohol isn't exactly good for dieters, so it was easy enough just to give it up for me. I've been completely sober now for around 6 months! Not so good on the caffeine... But I limit myself to a maximum of two small diet pepsi/coke a day, and that's only on weekends.

Also, I agree with the comment that children and pregnant women are everywhere at the moment, zippys. A friend of mine (who I didn't tell about the MC) IM'ed me the other night to try and show me pictures of her 6 month old daughter in her Halloween clothes.

I get the feeling my friend wanted the "Oooh, aaah, isn't she cute-!" response... But I made excuses and fled the PC before looking. I felt a little bad after, but I really didn't want to have another episode of crying plaintively over my keyboard!

aly323 · 06/11/2009 16:18

Nice to hear that my world isn't the only one full of pregnant women and babies. I guess they're invading everywhere! Hopefully, we'll all get to join their ranks soon enough. I just keep reminding myself that it's a good thing that I have close friends who are pregnant or new moms. It means free advice and baby things for me. It also means instant play friends for my baby. It's tough now, but will be good in the end.

B6 is supposed to help lengthen LP. However, you're best off doing a full B complex to help absorbtion. Also, I would do some research to decide how much you feel comfortable taking. Most prenatals have B6, but not enough to help LP.

WhiteRoses I know 35 isn't that old, but the changes my body has made over the last couple of years are pretty dramatic. Also, my energy levels have lowered, and I now have much more stress due to work and life, than I ever had before.

Zippys, sorry you've had the same experience as me, but it is nice knowing I'm not the only one! Hopefully we'll both straighten out again soon.

Kaloki · 06/11/2009 16:23

I'm new here so don't quite know what to write, but me and my other half have just started trying for our first baby. And I figured this was the thread to meet people in the same boat. So, hi!

Spirael · 07/11/2009 09:48

Hi Kaloki, welcome to the chaos!

And chaos it is, here today. DH insisted that I take a First Response test this morning, despite me pointing out that I was likely only 7 dpo, AF wasn't due until next week and it was waaay too early for anything to show up.

However, I got frog marched to the bathroom regardless and... BFP! This wasn't a case of waiting several minutes and squinting at a line either, there's a big fat second line there which is completely unmistakable, and it showed up in a matter of seconds.

DH then set off dancing around the house and giggling that he knew before I did, as I stared numbly at the test. He's still giggling like a school girl at the moment that he knew first. I get the feeling I'm never going to hear the end of this.

Having pinned him down, apparently he figured it out because I was having mood swings, eating more and getting really tired in the evenings for the last few days. The thing that really twigged him off though was the other evening when I was sat downstairs and suddenly found myself buried in the cats, apparently! He's never seen them do that before.

So... There you have it. I officially have no understanding of my own body, it seems. I'm tentatively optimistic, because the line appeared quicker and is stronger than anything I had last time around when I MC'd at 5 weeks.

However, I'm gonna stick around this topic for a bit with my head in the sand until 6 weeks or so, if that's ok? I'm still really nervous that AF will come on time next week and wash everything away again.

ImmaterialGirl · 07/11/2009 11:24

Spirael Congratulations!!!
Excellent news! I think you're probably a bit more than 7dpo though...

Crossing everything I have for you that this is a sticky one. You could get one of the Clearblues with week-estimator-thingys to see how far it thinks you are?

Kaloki Welcome to the TTC madness! If you give us your stats, we'll stick you on our list. Stats are:
TTC#1 = TTC your first child (i.e. everyone here)
Cycle = How many cycles have you been trying?
UCL = Usual cycle lenght
CD = Cycle day. CD1 is the first day of your period.

Updated list:
Sky27 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 24? CD72
chico193 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL36 CD50
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL26/7 CD46
Aly323 TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL 30 CD35
Muser TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD34
honeymoo TTC#1 cycle? UCL? CD34
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD34
chalky3 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL35 CD33
Sevans TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL? CD29
Curlycasper TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL? CD24
ImmaterialGirl TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL25-28 CD24
Ozziegirly TTC#1 cycle UCL 27 CD20
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL28-39? CD18
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 4 UCL?? CD14
pixiestix TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL28 CD14
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 (taking a short break from ttc) cycle 6 UCL29-31 CD9
whiteroses TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL23-49 CD7
YorkshireTeaDrinker TTC#1 Cycle 13 UCL 30 CD4
Confuseddoiordonti TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL 27-28 CD?
TishTosh21 TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL? CD?

*Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct
Spirael BFP 7 Nov

OP posts:
zippys · 07/11/2009 14:07

CONGRATULATIONS spirael I am so pleased for you. lets hope this one is a sticky one I know you will be nervous for the next few weeks but if you can try not to stress too much. I agree with imma you are most likely over 7po!

Welcome Kaloki

Not much to report here still going on with bonkathon think I could be about to ovulate as more CM and feeling a little hornier . So want this to be the month for us but I seem to be losing hope that it will ever happen at the moment.

Is anyone coming up to testing yet? Imma have you got any symptoms??

rollerbaby · 07/11/2009 14:15

Hi all

Big congrats to Spirael that is fab news!!!

Have been fairly absent of late during the 2ww - I couldn't bear to log on and wind myself up even more! The reason being is that I had a very clear implantation spotting 9 DPO and have had daily cramping, dizzinness... and 3 spells of really bizarre extreme dislike to ordinary smells.

Refused to let myself think about it consciously, whilst obviously massively hoping...

Now is 14 DPO and still a BFN! I am absolutely gutted.

Am I bonkers to think it's still too early or shall I resign myself to the fact my AF is on the way! No sign yet...

sevans · 07/11/2009 14:29

WOOHOO spirael!!! Congratulations!! I am so happy for you! stick, stick, stick, stick, little baby, stick!

honeymoo I'm sorry about your BFN but AF hasn't arrived so there still could be a chance, right?

So we have our first BFP for November! I hope we have many more to come this month!

BABYDUST

Kaloki · 07/11/2009 15:00

Ah, I did wonder what that meant

Mine is TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL 28 CD4

rollerbaby · 07/11/2009 16:24

Thanks Sevans that's what I'm still hoping... It occurred to me that if you have 3 days of EWCM that ovulation could have occurred on that last day, right? And I have been counting from the first day - which means I could be 12 or 13 days past ovulation.

I think I will TRY and leave it another week and see what happens.

I have keeping clearblue share price up this week!

aly323 · 07/11/2009 16:29

Welcome to Kaloki and HUGE congratulations to Spirael!!! I didn't expect that after your last posts regarding your cycle. Maybe this explains why it was wonky. I agree with everyone about you being more than 7dpo. Maybe the last rise in temps was actually a triphasic part of your chart. Sounds like the bean is in good so far!! What a great day for you!

Honeymoo it all sounds positive to me. A bfn means nothing definite at this point.

I just spent a good amount of time this morning obsessing over charts (this is how I spend my weekend), and the conclusion I've come to is- you just never can tell. The charts are all over the place and for every rule, there seems to be an exception.

NovemberAli · 07/11/2009 20:33

Hello all

Just started ttc for 1st time and it's great to have the benefit of all your experiences .

Was on Cilest for 10 years and stopped taking in may, since then cycle been pretty irregular and was hoping it would settle down before we ttc but just thought we would go for it now anyway.

TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL 30? CD 15

rollerbaby · 07/11/2009 23:03

Me again. Looks like we may be in for a wait... just got home from a friends dinner and oh yes AF has arrived. What a bitch.

oh well... (she types with large glass of shiraz in hand)

aly323 · 08/11/2009 01:57

Sorry Honeymoo, I really did think you were going to get a bfp. This whole process is hard enough, without our bodies giving us all these mixed signals.

Welcome NovemberAli! This is a great thread. Lots of info and, more importantly, loads of support. I'm so happy I found it!

And, speaking of experience- has anyone here tried progesterone cream for a short lp? I was going to try it,since mine is only 9-11 days, but I freaked out a little and decided not. I just don't like the idea that it could cause a miscarriage if I forgot to take it, but if it works... I spent ages staring at the stuff at the market while debating with myself. Anyone have any thoughts on the stuff? I'm taking B6, but haven't seen any difference yet.

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