The First Time Frolickers! More stories of TTC#1. All welcome!

[ImmaterialGirl]

A new thread for the First Time Frolickers and anyone else who wants to join in.

If you have been lurking for a while then now is the time to join!

Onwards for more BFP's!!

Thanks for the temp info ladies - mine went back up today and I stil have sore breasts [hopeful]...

My temp went up even more today so now my highest this cycle is 98.34. I wish I could read my chart better. Since ovulation, my temps have been in the upper 97 range (with the exception of the dip 5 DPO) but the last two days (6 & 7 DPO) it has shot up to the 98's! I played around with FF and if my temp again is in the 98s tomorrow they are going to change my ovulation date to CD 23 instead of 18 because of the dip and rise in temp!! I really don't think that is correct and I hope it isn't because DH and I haven't done the deed since when I thought I was ovulating around CD 18. I even had the ovary pressure then. So confusing! I was excited because this secondary rise is beginning to make my chart look triphasic which is great. I guess I just have to wait for my blood tests to clear things up for me.

curly - yay for the rise and sore breasts! Mine have been a little sore at night when I take my bra off.

fulham - thanks for the nice words. I am feeling much better this cycle since my body appears to be acting somewhat normal!

zippy - that makes me tired just thinking of all the BD'ing you are talking about! Best of luck!

Lots of babydust!!!!!

sev FF would be contradicting itself there then. Three raised temps pinpoint ov. a post-ov dip is entirely normal, and often temp continues to rise, or hits a third plateau, at the end of the cycle (tri-phasic) - all learned from the FF website!

Have you inputted CM, cervix position, ov pains etc in the secondary syptoms? I had to do the CM to fix ovulation in one place.

At the end of the day, you know your own body better than FF. If you are pregnant, none of it will matter, if you are not, you will get a period, and then you can work back 14 days or so to see when ov actually was.

Oh, and IMO, the further rise signals that you are pregnant

Hi everyone else - will catch up with you later, should be working now.

Gee, curly... I didn't even know you could enter secondary symptoms and meds and all that other stuff in FF. I was just putting in the info on that first tab where you enter temps. Silly me!

go play with it sevans! Bit addictive though. i have paid for the full service now...

Back to plain old pixiestix now!

Feeling puzzled today as I have a really weird aching like AF is about to begin, but from all the unsuccesful "early in the month" BD'ing I have done in the past I always figured I OV'ed quite late. Wonder what it is? May leap on DH tongiht just in case it is ovulation pain

Hi,

Thank you for educating me about what "OPK" stands for (duh! and what the blood tests are for, Aly and Sevans. I clearly have a lot to learn!

Aly - we thought about getting ovulation tests but am I right in thinking they only tell you a couple of days before that you're about to ovulate? Cause sperm can survive much longer than that, can't they? That's why we just tried to do it at least every second day, or every day if we were up for it, in the three weeks that I thought I might ovulate (based on my shortest and longest periods).

And thank you for the welcomes, Ozzie and Zippy.

Fulhamgirl, unfortunately not such a high chance of me being pregnant any more - Not long after posting on here last night, I got really bad cramps and back ache, and, sure enough, within an hour the brown spotting had turned into AF.

It was all very weird with me this time though because I've always started heavy (and bright red - hope that's not TMI! ) in the past. But I suppose I'm going to have to count Sunday (when the spotting first began) as day one of this month's cycle. Meaning that my details are now;

TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL23-49 CD3

We were gutted when it happened cause I think we'd both (stupidly and in spite of ourselves) gotten our hopes up, but in a way I'm a bit relieved now in that I'm not thinking about it any more, which is nice. Just waiting for AF to depart and the fun to start all over again!

How do other people feel about their "bonkathons"? Do you look forward to them? Is it really bad that I don't?

Curly - things are sounding good for you!

And Pixie - my God, that's so frustrating, isn't it?! You'd think you'd just know what was going on inside your own body, wouldn't you?! Good luck anyway.

Doctor called....she said I had a wonderful ovulation! Yay !!!! So I'm assuming I was correct that ovulation occured around CD 18 for me. OK, now I've just have to wait and drive myself crazy.

Babydust!!!!!!!

That's fab sevans - so pleased about your ovulation! (things I thought I would never say...)

And whiteroses -it's funny, I do look forward to the bonkathon, but also with slight trepidation as it does feel a bit "pressured".

Well, I think I am past Ov now - and into the TWW. BUT I really think I ovulated on CD14 as I had my last bit of EWCM and also slight pains. But we last had sex on CD12 so I just don't think that's close enough.

SO flippin annoying as we could easily have done it on CD14 but we were so tired I fell asleep before DH even came to bed. Grrr.

Still, it's not impossible for sperm to survive for 48 hours or longer, but pretty unlikely I imagine.

It looks like I'm joining several of you in the two week wait. All signs point to ov yesterday. Timing was good, so well just have to see what happens...

WhiteRoses, you're right about the opks. They work well for us since we don't have the stamina to go at it enough to cover the bases otherwise(I never thought that would be the case }. This way, we know we hit the key times. I think the most sperm lasts if five days, but less is much more common. Also, the quality of your CM has a big effect, and mine sucks.

Sevans, excellent news!! "Wonderful" is not a word I had ever expected to hear describing an ovulation. I love it!

Ozziegirly, looking at the charts of fertility friend, it seems you have a decent shot with two days. I love looking through the chart gallery. It's funny when you think about the very intimate details we share. I'm so glad we do it though. It's so helpful to see what others have experienced.

I've been very proud of my guy lately. I know he isn't enjoying the pressure, but he has been a sport. He has even woken me up when he came to bed. I know he was VERY tempted to skip it and tell me he tried but I wouldn't wake up. I know he is relieved that he can rest up a little now that the "egg has dropped." To be honest, I'm relieved, too. I know it can be hard on them, but sometimes they fail to realize that it isn't necessarily always stellar for us either.

That's reassuring aly - would be so nice if it happens this month.

You mentioned your poor EWCM - I used to have exactly the same issue. I would have either none at all, or just a tiny bit for one morning.

For the last 3 months I have been taking evening primrose oil morning and evening for CD1-16, and have had a glass of grapefruit juice every morning, plus have worked at drinking 2 litres of water per day.

Well something has worked as I had EWCM every morning from CD11 - 14.

sevens- That is such fantastic news hun!! Made my day sounds really promising with the temp rises etc as well you must be over the moon!!

aly- Thats good hun of your guy to be honest it is hard on them and they do think oh she only wants me for the baby etc not because she fancys me at the time if u c what I mean!! They dont really understand that there are only a few days which really work within the month when your TTC.

white - Aww hun sorry your AF hit this month it is gutting but at least youve got an idea of the cycle lengh etc!!! Its very unlikely to Concieve straight away when youve only just started trying. To be honest I do look 4ward to spending that sorta time with my fella I feel alot more close to him when we do the deed lol!! I know the bonkathon though is tiring in itself and whereas its like once every 3 days or so when your not on the bonkathon it is a lot nicer.
Is it just the tiredness that u dont enjoy with the bonkathon or do u think its the pressure in which it involves?

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yeay for wonderful ovulation!

My results still are not back, but at least my temp is back at the top

I second ozzie when it comes to grapefruit juice. amazing stuff!

White Roses - sorry AF got you - get on the chocolate and wine while you can, as we all say every month here!

Sevans - thats fab news!!! Am excited for you - this two weeks is going to be the longest ever!

My bonkathon did not go to plan at all last night. DH was completely uninterested the entire evening. Then just as I had fallen into a really lovely sleep he pounced on me! I'm afraid he got a good elbow in the ribs and was told not very politely to "f**k off!" In the cold light of day this morning I thought Oh balls, I should have gone for it, that was probably a good chance, but I am a girl who needs her sleep!

Think I am going to start on the grapefruit juice, as my CM is also crap, but I hate grapefruit so much. The things we do trying to conceive...

Oh White Roses I also meant to say, like you, I am starting to really hate TTC sex. Me and DH have less now than we did before we started TTC, which is messed up. Sigh.

Not to much to report here, had sex again last night as DP is away tonight and determied to manage it every other night this cycle with no gaps!! Yes I think we will be v tired but think of the calories burned

fulham great to hear from you, I bet you are counting down the days till your scan , hope you manage to get in eastenders one night at least hope the move goes well.

sevans so pleased to hear you have ovulated welcome to the boon jiggling and sniffing on the 2ww!

Sounds like loads of you are in the midst of the 2ww, when is everyone testing? Not that I am obsessed and now getting obsessed about other people testing

aly your guy sounds lovely, its nice to be both fully on noard the ttc thing.

white sorry to hear af hit you,

sorry going to have to dash but will check back in later

Wednesday's list
Sky27 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 24? CD69
chico193 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL36 CD47
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL26/7 CD41
Aly323 TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL 30 CD32
Muser TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD31
honeymoo TTC#1 cycle? UCL? CD31
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD31
YorkshireTeaDrinker TTC#1 Cycle 12 UCL 30 CD30
chalky3 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL35 CD30
Sevans TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL? CD26
Curlycasper TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL? CD21
ImmaterialGirl TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL25-28 CD21
Spirael TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL28 CD21
Ozziegirly TTC#1 cycle UCL 27 CD17
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL28-39? CD15
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 4 UCL?? CD11
pixiestix TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL28 CD11
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 (taking a short break from ttc) cycle 6 UCL29-31 CD6
whiteroses TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL23-49 CD3
Confuseddoiordonti TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL 27-28 CD?
TishTosh21 TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL? CD?

*Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct

Thanks for the well wishes! After I posted my message about my wonderful ovulation I felt a little silly because here I am so happy about something that most women experience every month normally. Oh well. I am just happy to have ovulated. I won't have a full 2ww since it has already been 8 days past ovulation so it shouldn't be too bad. Ha, who am I kidding! The doctor did tell me to wait ten days if no period before coming in for a test. You better believe I will be testing at home well before then if I don't get a period soon!

Sorry I couldn't post more in response to some of you but I need to get to work!

Babydust!!!!

Hi all! Just popping in for some advice, really. My cycle is still all over the place this time around, which is weird as it seemed virtually normal for the cycle straight after the MC! (Down to the day, even.)

I finally had a temperature jump this morning. However, no EWCM to speak of and the OPK result yesterday was negative. But then again, the only positive OPK result I had was on around day 10 and was so faint that I disregarded it.

So yeah... Now I'm really confused this cycle!

Really early in the cycle, right at the end of AF, I got the faint (squinty) positive on the OPK and I might have had a little EWCM, though I find it hard to tell. No temperature jump though.

Around mid-cycle, I again might have had EWCM, but no OPK positive and no temperature jump.

Now at the end of the cycle (AF due by this time next week!) I have a temperature jump, but no EWCM. The OPK yesterday afternoon was negative, but I might risk another one when I get back from work... Just in case.

So... Anyone want to help guess whether or not ovulation happened for me? Because I'm really confused! If it was early, I'm pretty sure DH and I missed it. Later on... I guess we have a chance, but it's been almost impossible to judge timings.

I really wish my body had some kind of mini screen that outputted useful information... Like temperature, hunger levels, ovulation times, etc!

Sevans - yay! Great news!

Ozzie - don't get me wrong,I enjoy it when it happens but I just don't like the "having to" side of it... Anyway, fingers crossed for you - as you say, it's still a possibility! Grapefruit juice... Never heard of that... Hate the stuff but I'm going to be buying it from now on!

Aly - how do you know whether you have good or bad qulaity CM?!

Also, seeing as you're so well read (!), what's your opinion on BDing every day vs. every two days vs. every three days? I've read so much conflicting information!

I think the fact that your DP has woken you up in spite of not wanting to is really nice - it shows how much he wants a baby too.

Fulhamgirl - I still don't really have an idea of my cycle length - I know what it was last month, but then that was different to the month before, and the month before, and the month before (going back over a year!)

How long did you try for before you conceived? Yeh, we knew we'd be very lucky if it happened right away but we were really hoping because my DH is a teacher and conceiving last month would've given us a due date near the start of his summer holidays. That would have been very nice, having all that time off together to bond, as opposed to just two weeks of paternity leave.

I do absolutely love the closeness with my DH and we've always had a very good sex life. But I think I like when it's just normal and I know we're doing it because we want each other, rather than because we have to... I think that feels closer. And I think there can be nights when we're both knackered and just falling asleep in each other's arms is so much nicer. When on the "bonkathon", I think I also have it at the back of my mind that it may be the last thing he's wanting too, which is a bit off-putting! However, I know it will be nice. Just don't like thinking of it stretching out in front of me again now, nearly every night for all those weeks... Maybe it's partly because he's not here though and AF is here and I'm just not in the mood!

Pixie - DH and I have been avoiding alcohol and anything with colours/preservatives/words in the ingredients list that we don't recognise for several months now, ever since I started taking folic acid and we agreed we'd definitely start ttc by the end of the year. So, unfortunately, on tonight's menu is roast chicken, potatoes and lots of veg. (including brocoli for DH - though whether that's a myth or not, I don't know!) And we'll be drinking milk! My God, wine and chocolate sound so good! Lol!

I probably shouldn't have but I couldn't help laughing at your story about last night! A girl after my own heart! Sleep's so under-rated! Oh well, hopefully you've got more energy tonight!

I think that's how we are too, Pixie... We've not done it now in over a week and we never would have gone that long before!

Zippy - like your way of thinking re: calories burned! Lol!

Spireal - the screen sounds great! I'm no use to you, unfortunately, but just wanted to let you know I'm hoping you manage to figure things out.

Looooong post. Oh well. I had a lot of catching up to do!

P.S. I think I'm on CD4 today, not 3...

Hi all,

A short and grumpy post tonight. AF has arrived. I'm feeling .

Although I had to have a bit of a chuckle at pixie's account of bedroom inactivity last night. I can empathise completely...

Good luck to the 2WWaiters, here's hoping for a positive outcome. And all those at the bonkathon stage, here's hoping you'll be in teh mood at the same time as your ovaries!

I'm sorry to hear that af has appeared Yorkshire. I know the feeling. Treat yourself a little and get ready for the next go-around.

WhiteRoses, I only know that I don't produce any EWCM . I used to have a lot more, when I was younger, but not anymore. This could be due to many things, but it is frustrating. I don't know if the CM that I do produce is hostile or not, but I am using preseed to help out just in case.

I think I will try EPO and maybe grapefruit juice next round (if things don't work out this month)per "Ozzie's advice. Unfortunately, like Pixie*, I detest the taste, so it won't be fun.

As for every day vs. every other... I just don't know. I think you just need to get a feeling of what's best for your situation. In my case, where we don't have any sperm issues that we know of, and my CM is lacking (more CM means better chance for longer lasting sperm), I feel better doing every day. But that's just for us. Since I know almost exactly when I'm O'ing, I like to feel that we have more of a chance to hit the egg. It also seems that the newest research says every day gives you less quantity, but higher quality. The first month, I didn't know when I O'd and was convinced that every other day was best. Unfortunately, we started very early with the sex, needless to say, we were both sick of it by the time I finally O'd. I can't even imagine if we had been going at it every day! I have to say, some of this TTC sex has been so bad that it actually became funny. Isn't that sad!?!

Spirael sorry to hear that things are so insane with your body right now. I think the temp jump is supposed to be the most reliable sign, but you're situation is very confusing. Maybe the EWCM was your body getting ready, but then it decided not to for some reason. The opk's could mean anything. I know a few people who said they never worked for them. I hope it all sorts out soon.

Morning all,

WhiteRoses and Yorkshire sorry about AF

Sevans lol at the wonderful ovulation very happy for you!!

Spirael Not sure what is going on there... I think sustained temp rise is the only sure sign ov took place, so you might know better in a day or two...

How's everyone else doing?
Anyone seen sky around at all recently?

About the bonkathons, I usually enjoy the first few days, but have to admit it does become a bit wearing after a while... I think DP feels the same, but luckily we're still able to step up, so to speak... It's quite telling that once my temp has shot up, we usually don't do it for a good four or five days.

Thursdays' list:
Sky27 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 24? CD70
chico193 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL36 CD48
CJ2007 TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL26/7 CD44
Aly323 TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL 30 CD33
Muser TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD32
honeymoo TTC#1 cycle? UCL? CD32
Stellybelly TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL? CD32
chalky3 TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL35 CD31
Sevans TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL? CD27
Curlycasper TTC#1 Cycle 3 UCL? CD22
ImmaterialGirl TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL25-28 CD22
Spirael TTC#1 cycle 4 UCL28 CD22
Ozziegirly TTC#1 cycle UCL 27 CD18
Zippys TTC#1 cycle 6 UCL28-39? CD16
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 4 UCL?? CD12
pixiestix TTC#1 cycle 5 UCL28 CD12
claireinthecommunity TTC#1 (taking a short break from ttc) cycle 6 UCL29-31 CD7
whiteroses TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL23-49 CD5
YorkshireTeaDrinker TTC#1 Cycle 13 UCL 30 CD2
Confuseddoiordonti TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL 27-28 CD?
TishTosh21 TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL? CD?

*Graduates:
Trying4Baby1 BFP 21Aug
Kaystar BFP 27Aug
Pepperonipizza BFP 12Sep
Fulhamgirl BFP 18Sep
Ladyemmalou83 BFP 13Oct
bluesnowfalcon BFP 14 Oct

Yorkshire - Just have to try and think positive now - you can relax completely for the next week or so, without having to try and guess what your body's up to.

Aly - Do you miind me asking what age you are? Don't answer if you do!

I've always wondered how grapefruit juice can be so popular when it's clearly so disgusting. It's probably just because all the women TTC keep buying it! Lol!

With the every day/every two days thing, I took my shortest cycle and my longest cycle and worked out the average of all my cycles and we figured out that I should (were I normal!) ovulate by the 16th, but it may be any time up to the 26th. So we said we'd try every day if we possibly could up till about the 18th maybe, (or until I've seen EWCM) and that we'd then try every couple of days after that, just in case. Hopefully it'll be easier this month than last, because last month, DH put his back out, I got a 48hr sickness bug (I'm NEVER sick!) and then DH came down with a really bad 'flu that had him off work for three days (and to put it into perspective, he's worked since before he graduated from uni and has NEVER called in sick before!) Luckily, as it happened, we still managed to BD 8x in the 10 days surrounding my EWCM. Not that it did any good, clearly...

So bad that it's funny?! That's pretty bad! Actually, last night for the first time in over a month, DH and I were both really in the mood (has been over a week, probably creeping up towards two, since we last BD'd). Although AF got in the way of things, it was nice to know that we can still feel that way about each other! Sort of confirms that it is just the pressure that's getting in the way. I'm sure you'll be that way too.

Immaterialgirl - thanks for adjusting my dates.

I'm really glad to hear I'm not alone in being fed up of sex! All I seem to hear on telly or that is what a great "excuse" it is and that that's the "fun" part. Suppose it probably is the easiest part but I wouldn't always call it "fun". Fun was when we did it when we wanted! Lol!

Heya white - I concieved in April this year but unfortunatly suffered a mc in May. I finally concieved again in September but as u can imagine everyday I worry. If I could I would scan myself everyday!!
It took me 4 months after that to concieve after horrible irregular cycles.
I was on the microglyon pill for 6 years and because me and my fella were talking about having a baby for a good few months I was anti biotics and we didnt use extra precautions so when I found out I was pregnant in April I was over the moon. But because I carried on taking the pill as well I lost the baby due to to many complications so I blammed myself for a very long time !!

Anyway im concentrating now on the new bubi and keeping fingers crossed I am very nervous though but only got 2 more weeks to go before my scan.

My friend was on the pill for 10 years and it took her over a year and a half to concieve. Its hard to say really hun everyone is different I do know its hard to concieve straight away though!!

Im keeping everything crossed for u all!! Imso sorry about the sex part guys I can imagine u getting fed up on the bonkatons really!!

Not long for a few of u now though get them testers ready lol!!

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Hi all! popping in for a quick catch up. i was actually really starting to miss you guys!

fulham good luck in moving in to your new place. that must be so exciting! let us know how you get on. my family are still here (until next Monday), so doubt anything will be happening for us, although might get away with a sesh on sat or sun morning very quietly and with locked door! might be exciting feeling like naughty teenagers again!!! who knows... could be just what we need to get the excitement back into the sex. we haven't done it at all since AF last came.... so i totally empathise with you all discussing the crappy TTC sex.

I think grapefruit juice might be helpful for me too cuz i can usually see wetness on my knickers around the right time, but can never tell if its stretchy enough to be EWCM. But in the past when i've eaten grapefruits it has given me a migraine. I'm too chicken to see whether grapefruit juice would be the same as i can't stand the pain! has anyone else had this reaction/know if it's a common migraine-inducer? i think i'm pretty sensitive to acidity anyway - sometimes even orange juice brings them on, but not always.

bit quieter at work today, which is nice. and i have tix to oliver tonight which is going to be so much fun! anyone else seen it yet?

thanks for keeping up to date with the stats guys. i'm sure i'll be back in the thick of everything next week when the folks leave. good luck with bonkathons, TWWs and testing!