The Hut of Gl/Doom... Please don't ask about our reproductive plans as a smack round the head with TCOYF often offends

[OracleInaCoracle]

new thread.

for those who are having problems getting pg

or staying pg

or are simply fed up of being told to relax and having to smile and say "you never know"

Hi all,

Lia, it is a bit of a manic time of year isn't it! At least it provides a nice distration from the drummers at the back of the galley saying 'hurry up, hurry up, no time, no time' etc...
You never know though... [inscrutable face]

LOTGK oh dear you are having such a horrible time emotionally with the load of poo that is TTC (not going to write FTC because it isn't over yet).
I hope you can find a bit of calmness somewhere in your life for respite at least.
[big hug]

Also very busy with holidays coming up and going to big school type stuff to do. Had lovely big row with DP last night, I think the assisted conception stuff is taking so much time that a lot of other stuff is being neglected (him).

Ooo, just looked at your DD's lips Lia. Poor little thing. She is absolutely gorgeous though, even with the Angelina lips.

Hi all,
just popping in to see how everyone is doing?
Hairy any progress?
Claire was the Op OK?
LOTGK how are you this week sweetie?
Rainbow hope your two lines are growing stronger by the day?

Lia sorry forgot to ask how the baking extravaganza went?

Hi rowing, they told me op went OK but then 3am yesterday started with cramps and very heavy bleeding, back to A&E when it got worse, admitted back to gynae about 9am and a consultant came in and he scanned me and examined me, looked to be tissue left in right horn. Kept in overnight and second ERPC this afternoon only they couldn't get me on day surgery list so I ended up in main theatre and they aren't as efficient and getting you released so we got home at 10pm. Shattered but waiting up until midnight to take my last lot if antibiotics for the day. They're going to scan me again tomorrow or Wednesday to check that is everything. It's like the miscarriage that never ends.

How are you getting on with dieting?

Claire that sounds awful. I'm glad it's all over. Not very good that they missed that tissue. Is that quite common?
Hopefully, everything is now resolved and you can move on at last.
[big hug]

claire - hope you have had the all clear from the scan by now and that you are off on the holiday. You have been through the mill and you definitely deserve some time away.

Hi everyone,
Hope you are doing better now Claire.
Hairy haven't heard from you in a while, how are you?
LOTGK - we are just reading the silver chair and guess what...you are in there!

I'm really on here for a moan about my other thread. I don't find MN so bad because there are lots of other topics on here so you don't have to read conception-related threads.
However, my other groups are on FF, which is amazing when you are going through the whole process, but it is the function of the forum to discuss fertility to the exclusion of all else. No big surprise. So not so easy to go on there, for me at least.
I just checked my old IVF thread and so many people on there are pg, it's great news, but I just feel depressed and angry now, why not me!
Weirdly, I feel happy about lots of other things in my life, so I was surprised at how numb and crap reading that thread made me feel.
Probably best not go on there for a while really - picking at scab isn't it!

hi all, hope you are ok.

rowingboat, i dont use FF anymore for that reason.

claire, any news?

rainbows, how are you lovey?

Hi everyone,
just wanted to see how everyone is.
LOTGK I have been reading the Silver Chair again and you are a very scary woman.
I am trying to organise flights to go and get our remaining frozen embryos, but have a sinking feeling that we are wasting our time.
Could go straight to donor embryos but it would cost a lot more than going back for ours, so I feel we need to do that first.

Hello guys - my hcg is down to 0.4 today hurray!!!!! not a gloomy post, but just wanted to let you know how I'm doing.

Hi all,
Hairy that is great news! You have been through a lot with this mc and have been so positive. You deserve a big hot chocolate with marshmallows, right now!
I'm just waiting for AF before booking my flights to go and have our other frozen embryos transferred. Should be today or tomorrow, but have had really sore boobs and arthritic fingers since last week, so hurry up AF.
Still not feeling very positive about using our own embryos, but can't just leave them there.
The money is running out quickly and after this, one more try and then time to move on.

cheers Rowing

Best best best of luck with the transfer!

I need the hut to rant so I don't bring any other thread down. Got home from lovely relaxing holiday to a letter giving the date of my first follow up appointment re recurrent miscarriage. 21 December. Oh yes and in maternity. I had a due date with latest pregnacy of 30 December so will be lovely seeing all the imminent mums to be won't it?

A six month wait when the ladies on the recurrent mc thread said expect about six weeks seems very crap. And it's not even a recurrent mc unit just the local gynae unit who by their own admission aren't recurrent mc specialists.

What's the fuckinf point?

It is failing again..... m/c just around the corner.

I'm so sorry Rainbow that's incredibly sad I can't believe you are facing this again.
Is anyone helping you on figuring out why this keeps happening?
x

Sorry Rainbow if my post is bit obvious / patronising - I hope you are ok? x

rainbow, claire, Im so sorry my lovelies xxx

Mowmi - no it is not patronising. I have had all the tests done (except the thyroid one that was missed), and I was told all is ok. I am trying to get information from Prof lesley Regans clinic and seeing if I can go or not.

claire - sorry to hear you are being messed around with the appointments, can I ask why they are not referring you to a RMC clinic? Seems awful.

I am trying not to let myself be fooled into false hope right now, I am not seeing any signs yet of m/c-ing, but the scan was definitely showing over two weeks behind in measurements. I wish it would hurry up and start, it is horrible limbo time right now.

Rainbow I'm sorry you are having to go through this again. It is so hard.
You sound very strong, I hope this doesn't drag you down too much.
Did you have immune tests done, as well as the usual hormone tests? Annoying not to have the thyroid one done. I did a quick google and found this
thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa050199.htm
I don't want to suggest that this affects you, but it would be annoying if it were an issue and you didn't know.
Thinking of you.

I can't remember the name but there is a top dr in this field who works out of the Zita West clinic - I booked to see him when I thought I was about to miscarry again, (we might have discussed this at the time?) my friend saw him and he got to the bottom of her problems - he works at st marys too. Will dig out his name if it helps?
Awful time for you - I'm really sorry, you so deserve a break! x

Rowing - thank you, that was a helpful link, it is ironing that both my aunt and mum have thyroid issues yet that was the one test that slipped through the net. I will be getting my gp to organise the test when I get back off holiday. Thank you.

Mowmi - is the guy Raj Rai? I hope so, as I have just got an appointment to see him next week!!!!!

TLOTGK - hope you are doing ok!

Hi all,
Rainbow how are you getting on. I hope you are able to clear things up with a thyroid test. It would be fantastic if it was something which could be fixed.
Big hug!

Hi rainbow - how are you doing? It is Dr Rai - where you seeing him? Zita West? My friend thinks he's amazing!
I hope he is able to give you some answers and get you sorted.

Will keep popping in to see how you're doing.

X

Update from me is that I did not take one of my progesterone suppliments one morning and immediately began brown spotting, so I know that if I stopped taking them now, I would m/c straight away, which is a good thing to know. I have an appointment with Dr Rai at St Mary's (through the Lesley Regan clinic) next thursday. They will hopefully do the pregnant TEG test to see if I am developing clotting issues just in pregnancy. So I need to still be pregnant for that test, this means staying on the progesterone until after that appointment. But I feel it is worth hanging on until after that appointment so that I can eliminate clotting as an issue. I have my next scan due back at home on the following tuesday. So I have decided to wait til after that scan to stop the progesterone. ~

The thing is I do risk the same as pregnancy number 10 happening, where eventually a heartbeat was seen, only to be lost the following week. But I guess I don't want to quit the progesterone until I get more confirmation that it is all over. I would feel like I was killing the feotus if I stopped the progesterone without seeing in the scan that it was all over.

Sorry I am waffling, I just need somewhere to off-load.