Feisty & Fabulous at 40+ - the continuing adventures of TTC

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Erm hope this will do as a continuation thread. Hello to anyone new to the thread. All welcome... xx

Angi I was just thinking the same thing as I was cleaning the bath (like you do!)- has any one come up with a really good way to stop obsessing about every little symptom? I too have metallic taste and feel really sick, but then again I am a very likely candidate for gallstones so it could be that!!
I think I'm day 19 today, so another 10 days to wait.
Back to the cleaning

Hi everyone,
still no news, I can't get through to the hospital. However, the bleeding is very heavy now and clotting, so I think that's that!
When I went in for the blood to be taken the nurse thought I would be able to go back for Foo-Foo, Fluffy and Barry in around 6 weeks. Mummy's coming!
It looks very like Papa and Toto RIP to me.
Will email as soon as

Summer I didn't think you were laughing out loud at a funeral. It did make me laugh though, particularly when you hurriedly explained what you meant.
So is LOL text for lots of love?
I don't text, I hate my mobile phone, in fact I don't even know where it is. Being at home all day, just use the landline, I can never hear what people are saying on a mobile. DP thinks I am a a wierd relic/fossil/dinosaur because of this.

Dilemma and Angi Ooo I do hope those are bona fide symptoms, how lovely.
Now get on with cleaning the bath!

Rowing Hang on in there, sorry it's not looking hopeful for Papa & Toto. Big hugs and DP take care of yourselves.

Tetley & Kiwi it's a shame you guys weren't able to meet up - I had this picture in my head of the two of you meeting up waving little sticks at each other whilst everyone around you was wondering what the heck was going on

Angi I'm a week away from AF. Had a cup of tea this morning which tasted really metallic but my (male) colleague had the same experience so writing that one off. I usually start getting pg symptoms before AF arrives which always raises my hopes even when I know I should be ignoring it.

Have a good weekend everyone

I've not been on for a while and I was so sorry to log in and read all your news Rowing. I too thought it was looking very positive with the streaks and the cramps. The problem with AF symptoms and pregnancy sysmptoms is that they are so very similar and it's very difficult to second guess them. And yet we all can't help but try. You seem really together about it all and I can't wait to hear all about Barry and the others soon. Sending lots of love to you and DH etc.

The story with me is that I'm almost half way throught the 2ww. My temp is 37.5 every morning when I first wake up (is that good?). You see, I know nothing about it but I still take my flippin' temp every morning. The only symptom I can see so far is that I'm peeing a lot but that's not exactly conclusive. Ah well, thanks to the smiley face I know that i ov'ed and I know we did it at the right time so I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Good week-end everyone.

Hi everyone, just wanted to say hello, I'm still here, well actually I'm in Liege (ooh lucky me).

Have been in lurk mode for a while now but still as obsessed as ever. I should be somewhere around cd 14 when I get home tomorrow so dh had better get his party pants on .

More importantly, Rowing I just wanted to send lots of love and hugs to you. I'm sorry things don't seem to be going so well with toto and papa. Its good you won't have such a long wait to collect your frost babies.

Spiralqueen I'm just over a week away from AF - so we can wait together. Loved the bit about the metallic taste (perhaps that man at work is preg too!!). It looks like Angi is almost in sync with us as well. She can wait with us too. The 2ww is exciting and agonising isn't it? Due to my age I haven't told many people out here in the real world that we're ttc - so I have to act like I'm not really waiting for anything.

sorry ddilemma, just re-read stuff and realised you're at the same stage as me too. Exact same day (I'm CD19 too how strange.) Missed you off my little waiting list. Good luck everyone.

So sorry Rowing - virtual hugs coming your way xx

Good luck to all with good symptoms - I'm on cd21 and desperately trying not to think about it ... right xx

Hello everyone Oh Rowing I'm so sorry but 6 weeks isn't that long to wait I love the names foo foo and fluffy - sorry not so keen on Barry would you be able to deal with triplets? I'm not sure I could or even twins but then I am a true wimp. I'm a bit like you re modern life I'd still like to write letters but there's never enough time for anything. Are we dinosaurs then, I do feel old enough to be one sometimes. Had to explain myself as I am always offending people unwittingly- sometimes just by breathing!

Sprial I love the idea of you and your male colleage being in the club together feet up on the desks knitting booties. I always think I am P just before AF too - it's that old friend progesterone again.

Hippy 37.5 sounds good it shouldn't dip for at least 9/10 days and (this is the bit I haven't worked out) be 1/10th above lowest temp could anyone explain coverline to me - was never any good at maths - or English.
Pineapple helps eggs embed apparently, I read so much I don't really know what's true anymore.

Who is going to pass the red tape first.

Hi everyone, it is very busy on here and that's lovely.
I'm afraid it was a negative yesterday. I thought I had updated, but I got a bit bogged down yesterday updating FF. Got myself onto too many threads on there and they are hooooge.
Is anyone else on there?
The nurse was very funereal and solomn when she told me, but I was far from surprised, just a bit final when they actually tell you it is negative.
Feeling sad now, but thankfully not depressed, as with the first failure. A lot of what I feel is anger and frustration, it's just such a lot of cr*p to go through for a negative. I suppose that is a natural reaction though. Then I want to cry.
On the plus side we have the B,F-F and F in the freezer.
DP wants us to keep trying au naturelle in the meantime, he thinks the drugs could make me extra fertile. Or he just fancies a bit of action. It is hard on him too, but he doesn't complain because he feels bad that I had to put up with so much physical discomfort.
Summer I don't think we are dinosaurs, we are using computers, so we're not that bad. I don't know what it is with mobs, I don't like when I am out and someone rings me. It's always when I don't want to answer or it's too awkward, like when I'm crossing the road with DS or something, or in a changing room with my top over my head. Then when I do answer I feel embarrassed about talking very loudly for some reason.
I also find that if I dont' answer the phone I get told off by people, 'why didn't you answer'? So I just don't have a phone on me and then they know why I didn't answer. Hm! Told them! Hrmph!
Sprial I wonder if the teabags have been substituted for tiny bags of iron filings to save money - credit crunch - reusable.
GPS, Dilemma, Dixie, Much, Angi, Tetley, Kiwi, StinkyP, Rock (how the hell are you??), Pat everyone, thank you for being the most marvellous people and so kind to me.
You're making me cry. Huuge Hug!

Hey Rowing
First of all I wanna say 'Sh*t' 'bum' 'poo' and 'crap' because they are the first things out of my head when I read your posts...... Secondly I wanna say 'sorry' that you went through the mill and it didn't work out for you - my love and thoughts for you and hubs
I really hope you get lucky on the next try and know that we will all be with you every step of the way xxx
This ttc is sooo emotionally consuming and stressful (sometimes I catch myself and think 'Why are you doing this to yurself missus' then I'm off again jumping hurdles)
Well my hubs went away on his (men only trip) ggrrhhh and low and behold my ovulation was early yaaayy usually day 15 but came on day 11 instead so I managed to get in enough 'good deeds' to cover it (I hope)-otherwise it was due today and he not back till Tues.
Supposed to be more fertile after a MC so we will see..........
I hope all is well with everybody else and Im with you on the mob phone thing cant stand them 9 times out of 10 its usually one of my teens asking (demanding) something from me - a lift, money, food ....and I'm not on FB either mind you thats bcoz my 19yr old son has forbidden it !!!

love to you all and a an extra hug for Rowing
xx

good luck muchlove I do hope you've caught the egg xx
rowing I so admire you - big hug coming your way xx

well I've had my first wipe of doom right on cue guarantee af will fly in as expected next Friday - oh well down for a day and think about why and giving up - then tomorrow comes and I think "oh what the heck lets give it another go" lol. Still figure if its meant to happen it will!

love and hugs
xx

Oh Rowing - I second Muchlove's very articulate statement - shitbumpoo, and a huge hug. x

Sorry to hear that the witch got you too, Dixie.

Hi all,
Dixie, that's poo, bloomin' AF, what's she want!! She is such a total loser! Yes I prescribe a day of thinking 'what a waste of time, I won't bother next mont' before continuing to TTC as usual.
Thank you Kiwi and Pat for the bumpoo and other sentiments, I quite agree, lots of that and more of that on top!!
What is funny is that suddenly the normal method of TTC seems a breeze, a holiday and a walk in the park all rolled into one, after the alternative method. I will never complain about the boredom of routine sex. So infinitely superior to being poked up the vag with a scanner thingy whilst watched by three students and a cleaner or being butchered by a doctor performing egg collection.
Good grief, routine sex any day, at least you get a lovely sleep afterwards.
It is very difficult to fill the void left by obsessing over IVF. What was it I used to do. Was I a vicar, no that's not it!
Suddenly resurrecting sewing projects and tidying up again.
So where is everyone in their cycle now? Can I have an update?
Kiwi what is happening about your IVF appointment. Is the Clomid finished now?
Could somebody get a BFP please!

Hi. Rowing, there's a bit of a time difference as I'm down under, so would have come sooner to say how sorry I am. You've got a fabulous outlook, very positive so I am sure it will work out. I can't remember why you are doing IVF.Do you have specific infertility issues, or are you doing it due to age? I hope I'm not being too nosey.

I hope,hope,hope we have some bfp's too.Wouldn't if be lovely if we could all be up the duff together.(I am SUCH a romantic!)

According to fertility friend I am 7 dpo.Despite having signs of fertilty,raised temperatures etc,I am still having trouble believing it all cos it has been nearly 2 years since I last had AF! On the other hand I have convinced myself that I am indeed pregnant and a test will prove it in a few days.I got a faint positive at 9dpo last time.

So it is official, I am barking mad!

Only time will tell.At least if I do get AF it means I am fertile again, which is a good thing.

Hi All,

Rowing I was so hoping you would be the BFP as I'm sure were you and I was going to tell my news when you announced yours but now I'm in the same boat as you - pun intended.

WARNING -I DON'T WANT ANY SYMPATHY WE'VE ALL BEEN THERE-

I did get a BFP last Sunday and was thoroughly amazed as I am one of the oldies here but this morning felt something wasn't right and started cramping and had a sore back and now it's pretty much over expect for my mind which hasn't taken it in yet. This is my 4th MC in a row and luckily I hadn't cancelled the appointment at the fertility clinic or I would have gone to the bottom of the list again. If my Doctor was nicer I would have gone to see her sooner and maybe asked for some progesterone injections but then if it was malformed better it goes sooner as the later ones are always worse. So I am back to square one - perhaps they might investigate me now.

Pretty awful weekend, Funeral Friday in A&E yesterday with DD who fell off her bike and needed stitches and today this. I do hope everyone else is having a better time of it.
Well at least I can stay on here now - thought I would get kicked off for being in the club.

Rowing, it's an undercover vsf here, just to say how sorry I am to hear the news. Third time lucky and all that. I'm lurking but not posting now, as I'm trying to get on with life find a job and some other sense of purpose and stop obsessing over what probably isn't meant to be. And on the plus side, I did eat a lot of oysters in France.

Big un MN hugs to you x x

I know you don't want any sympathy summer but here is just a little bit - hope you can handle it. Really sorry to hear your news - big hug to you. What an absolutely crap week-end you've had! Thanks for the advise about the temp. What do I do with the pinapple??

Good luck to all those getting to the end of their 2ww. I had some cramps yesterday and managed to convince myself they were implantation cramps, but no sign of any streaks to suggest that I am right. Apart from that there is just the peeing all the time but having said that I gave birth to those 2 big babies didn't I and my bladder doesn't really do waiting inbetween wees.

Thinking of all those who are feeling today. xxx

Sixfold, nice to see you in your new incarnation. Summer, you'd be welcome on this board no matter what. Rowing, are you really a vicar?

Can I ask a few questions about progesterone? How do you know if your progesterone is low? I've convinced mine is - hair's falling out more than usual, thighs looking particularly lumpy and so on - ("Weight gain predominantly around the hips and thighs can be a sign of a relatively low level of progesterone, a hormone that acts as an anti-anxiety agent, an antidepressant and a diuretic as well as being essential for us to burn body fat as an energy source," says Libby. article here) but the test came back normal. I'm on clomid, cd12, and have one more round after this, then it's on to the ivf merry-go-round.

Summer - you've had 3 bad things, so you're due good luck now!

Haven't seen fruitbowl for a while - fruit, you out there?

Rowing and Summer - thinking of you and the b*mmer of a weekend you've both had. Rowing thought you might be right about the tea and then remembered I'd bought bog standard tetley so the country would be full of people wondering if they were pregnant (cue nuns, grannies, gay men looking puzzled ). Summer - oh to be knitting booties eh?

I've had backache since Friday and spent all weekend thinking AF was going to put in an appearance a week early, but nothing. Getting seriously hacked off with body.

Just to add to my general hacked off feeling...

Spoke to the clinic about getting my hycosy appointment and they say I won't get in before mid-Oct and that my next clinic appointment 22nd Oct can't take place until the results of the Hycosy are through. I won't be in the right bit of my cycle until the end of October for the test so that means a further wait for a clinic appointment. Given how long it took to get this one I suspect that would mean waiting until January when we are due to move away from the area. B*m

Hi Sprial Oh that's not good news and I know how precious time is to us - every month is so important. Where are you moving to? I managed to change my appointment at the clinic today to 19th Oct so another month out - it will be our first visit and hopefully they will refer us straight to the recurrent miscarriage clinic as things still seem to be working just not sticking. Your backache sounds positive - I'm always totally convinced until the aptly named WOD.

Kiwi I just took my low prosgesterone from the short luteal phase, should be between 9 and 12 days. B6 and evening primrose oil are the things recommended. That article was interesting. Anyone else rattling with all these vits and mins. I've just written a cheque for £90 and I was being cautious with the recommendations - wow my wee will be expensive and no we're not rich we just would really like N2 to turn up soon.

Hippychick Hmm! what to do with a pineapple? Now there's an interesting question - well my yoga teacher keeps talking about tantric and I'm sure they would know. I only buy the tinned stuff can't be bothered to peel it all takes forever and what a mess.

Happy to hear Muchlove that we are more fertile after a mc, do you know why? At least that is one positive thing to come out of it.

Have a lot of time on my hands today as I'm quite rightly taking it easy (in fact the only thing I have done is have a bath) Now were's that horse I would really like to be getting back on, perhaps I will wait a few days am still very sore.

Hey Summer
Not sure why we are spose to be more fertile after a MC one theory is that the chance of having back to back duff eggs is rare so the chance of same thing happening is unlikely ??? Not sure though ?? the trouble is as well that may be correct in a younger woman but those of us 40+ trying to chase the golden egg I guess we havent got that many left in storage (damn stupid aging process)But we will see if that theory is true...The worrying thing is how many attempts,losses do I have to go thru until you do find the golden 'ONE'
I am also waiting to see a specialist (NHS) and pick his/her brains about possible options I have left.... will update when I get apptmnt.
As for vitamins where do I start
This cycle started using Vita Wests multivit and the DHA. Extra folic acid, L'arganin, trying another one called Pycnogenol ?? read on FF that it spose to be showing promise in aiding conception erm wot else ... B6, Zinc I think that's it.
I have also started with my reflexology again (once a week throughout cycle seemed to help me get my BFP last time)
Also last time I had started drinking red clover tea (2 months prior to conceptn)
really liked that....I think that's it... oh yeah and yoga
PS
Don't think I took a bloody thing prior to falling for the previous 4 kids !!!! They were all conceived within a coupla months of trying

Hi thought i'd join this thread as i seem to fit the criteria.
I'm just 40 and desperatly am ttc #3. I have two boys aged 20 and 18, so have left quite a big gap.
My DH has been booked in for a VR on 1 october so i have everything crossed that it will work and give us both what we want more than anything else in the world.
It's nice to see the encouragement and friendship on this site. I hope you don't mind me joining your thread.