Feisty & Fabulous at 40+ - the continuing adventures of TTC

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Erm hope this will do as a continuation thread. Hello to anyone new to the thread. All welcome... xx

Rowing, that's very exciting!You prove her wrong!
I suppose I'll know for sure if I still have neg tests next week.Then I'll know it is all in my head, which is most likely!
Must run, my wee one is crying for a cuddle!

Angi, it's so easy to convince yourself that you're pregnant when you MIGHT be - we've all been there. I'm there every month! Let's hope this time you're right.

Rowing, you prove her wrong! I'll be thinking of you 24th, 25th. x

The acupuncturist gave me a couple of tips - told me to stay away from tap water, to drink only bottled water. He recommended Vitafem and Vitamen vitamins from Zita West, which are expensive - blimmin' heck, are they! - but he says they're the best available. And to think positive. Hmmm, we'll see.

The scan today said the lining was good, and the egg - only one - was ready to go. So we'll be bd every day for the next week -dh is not-so-secretly pleased.

Good luck to everyone!

Oh yes, and that alcohol was the worst thing possible for sperm - apart from drugs, I'm guessing - but he said if we're serious about this baby thing, then dh needed to stop drinking. So of course last night he goes to the pub with the work crowd - which to be fair, he very rarely does - and comes home well-oiled. Good grief!

That was one thing I couldn't get my DH to do - give up his evening glass of red.I fidured he'd made so many other sacrifices, I'd just have to accept that one.

As for my silly saga:Need a 2nd opinion here.

I took a few ept's. Yesterday's internet cheapie,first morning pee -negative, same with a First Response. But then later in the morning I thought, what the heck, I'll POAS.I peed on an OPK too.They were both +. I wondered if putting the opk down, right next to the ept might have given the faint positive on the ept, because the ept I did later that night was neg.
So this morning, again I POAS - FR was neg, and the internet cheapie had such a faint line I'd count it as neg. I took a picture, but it'll just look negative to you I'm sure.
I think it is probably all wishful thinking, and maybe yesterday's faint positive is just a dud.I don't know....I will post the pic, but I just can't get super close ups on my woeful camera.
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Any wise words?

How frustrating, Angi! What's your waking temperature doing? The average luteal phase is 10-12 days, then your temp will drop the night before or day of your period, so if your temp stays high for longer than 18 days, then you're most likely pregnant.

I guess the only way you'll know for sure is to try again tomorrow. Fingers are crossed for you.

Looks like a very faint line......Try again tmoorrow!

Hi Ladies, just wanted to let you know that I am not pregnant. I have done a few more tests, including a digital and all bfn.
I think I've worked out why some of the other tests were bfp, and wanted to tell you as a word of warning. I did them at the same time as opk tests, because I had no idea where I am in my cycle (if I even have one!).I think when I lay them down together that some of the dye from the opk was wicked up into the ept.It is the only explanation that would make sense and I also read online that it happened to someone else.
So don't do the two tests together! But I don't think many people do!
Anyway, it has helped me realise that I'd really love another baby, but for now I want to enjoy every moment with Charlie.
I so hope everyone else can get their bfp ASAP!

Well, it's been very busy on here with possible bfps. How exciting, about time we had even the faintest of bfps.
Angifi, it sounds as if you have made a decision - for now.
I have to say I'm glad I have had a long time with my DS being young, we have done so much together and he loves sitting chatting with me and playing. I know (from watching my friends) that I wouldn't have been able to focus on him so much with a much smaller child running around.
Tomorrow is my first scan since starting the new drugs, so we will see how many follicles there are and how big. I'm feeling quite laid-back, so as long are there are some I will be quite happy.
We have been away for a few days, nice and relaxing.

Hi there, been watching at a distance for some time...

Never joined as you seem such a close bunch.

Anyway, briefly popping in to say I am 40 and got a BFP this week.

Thought a little bit of happiness might help cheer you on your way...

All the best you guys, (first and last floundering attempt at handbag swinging, and falls flat on her old fat arse!) and thank you for helping me just by being there x

Hurrah Stinkypinky! That really does cheer me up.

Rowing, will be thinking of you tomorrow, hope you have lots of eggs.

Glad you're happy with the way things have turned out, Angi.

Talked to the cons today about ivf and it sounds pretty scary - I'm not a fan of needles, for a start. Today is cd14 and ovulation day, so we've been bd every moment we can find. Went to the acupuncturist this evening who told me that he was 'opening up the flower of the womb' and then I have to go back on Wednesday to close it back up again and keep everything safe and tight. Part of me thinks 'believe, believe, it will help' and part of me thinks 'what a load of old bollocks'. We'll see ... Off to see the nurse tomorrow morning and find out all the ins and outs of ivf. Rowing, will probably be full of questions.

How's everyone else doing?

Congratulations Stinkypinky, that's lovely news.How long were you ttc?
Rowing, I hope it goes well this week - lots of lovely big eggs.
Kiwi, I'm interested to see how it goes for you.I love that stuff about "opening the flower of the womb".Sounds so nice.
Last night was a particularly busy,frantic evening, as you know I have 4 kids at home,and one moved out.But he's just come back, with the flu, my eldest daughter is also sick.Our plumbing completely f#@* up, the baby was tired and I had to get dinner.Meanwhile the dog was giving us her big doggy eyes cos noone had taken her for a walk.Phew!So I thought to myself, it is probably just as well I am not pregnant.I think it would have sent me into a tailspin.
Of course, most evenings are not like that at all! And I'd love for Charlie to have a sibling close in age because his nearest sister is nine.Ideally I'd like to wait, but at 42 I feel I can't afford to wait. However, my body will dictate that anyway, as I have to wait til I ovulate again, by which time perhaps I'll be clearer on what we should do!
Sorry about the ramble! I hope you don't think me greedy - as I already have 5 children and I know most of you are trying for your 2nd. Somehow, even with all these kids, my desire to have another hasn't gone away.Everyone is different, and I have surprised myself, wanting a large family.There was a time when I thought one was enough...
Good luck with the scan tomorrow,Rowing.

Thank you Angifi - I fell on the second month of trying - still in shock! I had prepared myself for not having any more, and was doing my best to not symptom spot, then I woke up on Saturday morning having peed about 20 times during the night, could smell the next village, and felt as sick as a pig.
Good luck with no 6 x

Hello all~could I be very cheeky and ask how old any of you are?

I always intended to go for a last dc but had to have some investigations and hormonal treatment[mirena]~ which stayed put for a lot longer than it should have.

Now I have this urge to have a last try..but am very old
..46

Kiwi hope your flower is OK. I do find that part of acupuncture a bit hmmm! When the lady starts talking about the heat and cold of my body, I either drift off or think, 'she must mean I have some kind of infection'.
Huge fingers crossed for this month for you!!!

StinkyP that's great news. And don't worry about the handbag, you won't need one for long, just a great big rucksack full of nappies and wipes.

Angi that does sound like quite a week you're having there. Probably wouldn't have been improved by morning sickness.
I know about the pangs of longing for children. I had to wait to try because of some surgery to remove a fibroid, so I think I managed to get past the strongest longings to the point where I started to worry about the practical side of another child.
In some ways I think hang the expense and then I have days of worrying about ever having a career again or a pension. Mind you, you don't have children to make money do you. Unless you can persuade them to form a singing group and go on tour.
Ohbaby I'm 42, but will be 43 next month. How have the investigations been going?

Oh had to mention, one of my friends has a neighbour who has just had her first baby at 45. Isn't that sweet!

Now the scan - weell looks like I'm responding slowly to the drugs this time. It is a different drug regime and I think my body was well and truly 'shut down' by the extra week of the last drug.
However, they did count five definite follicles and at least two smaller (they said 'a few small follicles') so I did go over the four.
I will be going back next Monday for another scan, so hopefully things will go well this week.

Kiwi pmsl at the flower of womb thing - yes it's nice, but I think I prefer my acup. bloke's more medical approach talking about pulses and short luteal phase! I definately believe there's a lot of benefit in acup tho however they approach it.
Stinkyp -(great name btw) Congrats love to hear happy bfp stories
ohbaby - I too am venerable and ancient at 46, so go for it I say.
Rowing good luck for scan Mon
I actually (well according to OPK) ov'd last week, so am on a less than 2 ww - AF due next Tues.....
On a more spiritual note - anyone heard of/used Mia's Spell??

Boy, they gave us a lot of forms to fill in today! DH is feeling wobbly about the ivf, thinks it's too soon and is feeling rushed into it. Thinks we haven't been trying for long enough - we've been trying for 2 YEARS!
And I'm 43, for heaven's sake. Really, really, really hoping that the bottled water, booze avoidance, swilling of Zita West vitamins and grapefruit juice does the trick this time.

Glad you've got some good follicles, Rowing. Hope they get big and fat.

What's Mia's Spell, Ddilemma?

Hi everyone

It's WOD (wipe of doom) day for me today. Hardly was likely this month as we only did the deed once but you know how the old delusional-ometer cranks into gear? ... hey ho. (dusting self off and picking up nice sparkly handbag)

Rowing - Hope dem follicles getting nice n big - tell em I'll give their mummy some nice choccy if they play nicely!

Kiwi - good luck with the form filling and stroking of wobbly DH! (that sounds a bit ooh err!)

Angifi - sorry you've had your hopes up and then it not to be this month. Sounds like you do have your hands full. I'm full of admiration for mummies of big families - respect!

StinkyP - hooray for you! How lovely. Please stay and hang out with us and tell us how it's going. Gives us hope!

Hi all - back at last from holiday and trying to catch up with all your news. Have certainly missed you all.

Ohbaby - had my DD at 44+10mths and am now 46+6mths

DH's first morning back from hols was spent at the clinic providing a sample, bless him. He said it was the most embarrassing thing he's ever done. He was shown to a toilet and told to wash his bits and then sit down and produce the goods. He couldn't face the prospect of the selection of magazines on offer and was slightly miffed when the lady at the desk commented on how quick he had been . Told he could either go to the GP for the results next week or wait til our next appointment at the clinic (October). Think we are going to wait as I think the info will be a lot better at the clinic.

I've had my 21 day bloods done and the jolly chlamydia swab. Felt I had to explain to the nurse that I was ttc which was why I needed the swab rather than leave her with the thought that I might be a woman of easy virtue . Is that completely insane?

Sorry this has been all us, us, us but join me in knocking back some duty free from France.

Hi all. I thought I would join this thread. I am just turned 42 and have a 10 week old daughter. Not TCC yet but definitely thinking about doing it in the next year though not fully decided. I realise time is not on side so if we do decide to try for another we can't hang around for long but I'm not brave enough to start trying right away!

Spiral, my dh had to do a sample after his vas reversal, and the lab is 25 minutes from home, but we live in a small city, and there is nowhere in the lab to produce a sample.They actually suggested that he go to a public toilet!!!Fortunately 25 mins isn't too long, so I drove into the lab with the precious sample between my breasts!Put it in my pocket before handing it over!
Ahh, the wonderful world of TTC.
I love that I am not alone in the over 40's want to have babies group.It's great.
Spiral, you say you had your last baby at 44+10, did you go to ivf? If it was au nateral, how long were you ttc?
Fruitbowl, sorry about the WOD (very good acronym, that).
Rowing, can't wait to hear more about your follies.
Ddilemma, what is Mia's spell - please tell me more.
Kiwi, what is in Zita's vitamins?
Fifi, what's going on for you?
SO great to see all the posts.

Had my fingers crossed for you angifi as I read through the posts. It could end up happening when you least expect it. Watched pots and all that.... Sorry about AF as well fruitbowl.

Glad I don't have such a "poetic" acupuncturist as kiwi! She'd have a job sticking the needles in my giggling belly . Luckily mine is far more factual and medical (and still very nice). My DH is a bit like yours when it comes to understanding the time limits on our biology! I'm 40 and trying for our first but DH thinks we've got ages thanks to his magical sperm (he has children from a previous marriage). I keep telling him his sperm is old and wrinkly like him!

Welcome missy8c. Was your daughter your first?

Your poor DH spiral - I had a for him just reading it. One bit we don't have to go through!

rowing - hope you're busy proving that nurse wrong. Can't remember the film but there is some romance where it says you just need to find one (good man that is). Same applies to follicles. Hope that good one is busy growing for you!

Congratulations skinkypinky - that's fantastic news.

Hi TFLS how's tricks!

I've got acupuncture tomorrow, but my lady isn't big on floral metaphors. I'm wincing already at the thought of the little needles.

Hi rowing. OK at the moment thanks. Think I'm coming up to ovulate this week (cycle seems to be returning to some form of normality thank god) so will be going for it. Poor DH came back from watching football in the pub last night - no sinking into a snooze for him

I've got acupuncture tomorrow as well - will think of you! Do you find it weird when you see the needles in you (or don't you look )?

Hello - still here. ON 2 ww. Ugh.

Welcome back, Spiral.

Sorry to hear about the WOD, Fruit.

Angi, I'll let you know later what's in Vitafem and Vitamen - lots of things!

I'll join in the 2ww, Fifi. Always a long two weeks ...