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bubbly1973's IUI online diary

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bubbly1973 · 20/04/2005 13:45

i am doing this online diary in the hope that it will help anyone who is going through it or are about to go through it. Oneday it will be hidden away in the archives and will be found by someone who is desperatly seeking information or another womans experience and find this diary helpful..if i can help one person then i will be happy

please feel free to post on this thread, if you have any comments or you just want to give me support id be most grateful

so here we go firstly something about me and dh

we had iui done a few years ago, conceived but sadly ended in a miscarriage,
went for our 2nd go straight away and conceived and now we have a beautiful little boy who is going to be 3 in june.

My periods are very irregular, anything from 35 to 45 days. I have cysts on my ovaries so am not ovulating, i thought after having a baby this would correct itself, but unfortunately it hasnt

I am 31, i am a smoker, non vegetarian, weigh nearly 8stone
dh is 32, non smoker, non vegetarian, his sperms are not extremly high in numbers but sufficient enough

iui explained

right so will post this and begin my diary....

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dizzy36 · 09/03/2006 14:37

hi its me again. well, I saw the consultant today and to be honest didn't come away feeling any better about the whole thing. In a way I sort of wish they would say 'right, this is whats wrong with you' then at least would know how to fix it.

DH count after washing was very good at each iui and I was responding 'nicely' to treatment apparently. So basically he doesn't know why it hasn't worked. The only thing he did tell me when I told him my lp on last iui was 12 days, he suggested that corpus luteum may not have been sufficient!? He recommended using clomiphene for a few cycles to give my ovaries a bit of a 'push' and if that doesn't work then IVF, but the 2 week one rather than the 6 week one (didn't know they did different ivf treatments). Didn't really want to do ivf but the 2 week one is quicker and less intrusive so would go for that

I did ask him all the questions I wanted to ask...apparently my 12.2 fsh is nothing to worry about, I told him about the changes in my cycle (shorter, spotting b4 and after, sore boobs). He put this down to hormonal changes which can be affected by a traumatic event ( i.e my m.c in jan 2004). He offered free counselling at the clinic which I may or may not take up...seems like too much what with all the ttc as well.

With regards to acupuncture, I have been having it for about 5 months now and it may or may not have brought my fsh levels down, I tried the herbal tea as well for about 4 months which I have now stopped...too expensive, tasted vile (couldn't take a sip without have a glass of water too hand so I was probably diluting it even more!) and I don't beleive it had any effect.

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bubbly1973 · 10/03/2006 06:55

dizzy, sorry to hear that you have come away from consultant not feeling 100 percent confident about the treatment.

im no expert on ivf maybe some one will come along to explain, but it may be to do with down regging yourself (i think u sniff something for a few weeks), i think this procedure closes down your reproductive system so you dont start to grow any eggs, then once thats that done, they start from scratch, give you something to help you grow the eggs....like i say, i am assuming this is the treatment that takes 6 weeks

if i could afford to do ivf, and my dh didnt mind, i would have to say that i would give that a go even though it means possibly have multiples, but its your call,you do what you feel is best for you and your family.

i personally would feel though, that the only risk of doing ivf is that if that didnt work then i would feel distraught, i would feel 'what next, i chose the last option and that still didnt work'....whereas if i continued to do another few goes of iui i would know that i still had ivf to fall back on should it not work.

(i hope you know what im trying to say...crap with words and explanations!!)

anyway, whatever you choose to do let your instincts guide the way and good luck

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bubbly1973 · 10/03/2006 07:00

dizzy, one other thing....what if you suggested to your consultant that instead of taking the hcgs 3 times after insemination, you took cyclogest? it helps thicken the womb, maybe because you lp is shorter than you would like your womb isnt having a chance to grow thick enough.

just a thought

(i suggest this as nearly all the women i read on net either take nothing or take cyclogest, i had never heard that they take hcg injections after insemination, so perhaps thats the key to it, but no expert, have a word with consultant and see what he thinks...id personally make him give me cyclogest to see if that works)

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dizzy36 · 10/03/2006 13:02

thanks bubbyly.

The consultant said he didn't see any point in doing any more iui's because the chances of it working reduces dramatically after 3 goes. I've discussed with my dh and he said to go straight for the ivf but my feelings are to try the clomid first so am going to give that a go for a month or so. Am confused about the LP thing though, when he mentioned about corpus luteum didn't think to ask if it needed to be sorted out

Feel happier about doing ivf because we would only need to do the 2 week one which is almost the same as iui...what worried me about ivf was the amount of drugs you have to take. Have to admit would rather not have to go down that road so will keep fingers crossed that clomid will help

ShouldKnowByFriday · 13/03/2006 20:20

Woweee, day 28 and BFP! Smile

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bubbly1973 · 13/03/2006 22:50

shouldknowbyfriday CONGRATULATIONS!!!

i know you have been trying for acouple of years so this makes it extra special that you finally got your well deserved bfp...so congratulations and look after yourself!!!....is this a xmas baby?

bet you cant believe it after all this time huhSmile

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ShouldKnowByFriday · 14/03/2006 10:42

Thank you bubbly and yes it will be two years in April so quite some time. No, I can't quite believe it but will feel better when everything confirmed okay. I am aware that the miscarriage rate with our friend Clomid is slightly higher. How are you and how many weeks are you now?

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bubbly1973 · 14/03/2006 14:39

shouldknowbyfriday, im 28weeks on thursday, feel great and still cant believe i am blessed once again.

from first ttc to having ds to ttc again for 2nd baby has taken us 8 years so will be very strange once this baby is born when we wont be channeling our energy into a quest to complete our little family!...does this mean we will actually be having sex for pleasure rather than ttc ..is that possible? Shock

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ShouldKnowByFriday · 14/03/2006 20:07

8 years??? Golly, it must have been quite worrying and distressing for you both at times. But you persevered and all has worked out the way you wanted eventually. I must say, I really did enjoy reading your thread as I opened it when I was waiting to start Clomid and I wanted to read as much on it as possible. Also wanted to read about the clinical experience you went through. So thanks for sharing it with us because it was inspirational and answered a lot of questions.
One thing I must say, when I left the doctor who measured my follicles before I trotted off to the nurse for my follicle releasing jab, the doctor instructed me to BD that night, the next and the next and genuinely wished me lots of luck. I left her room on a high. I then went to see the nurse and I was still grinning from ear to ear from the whole experience of it all and after my jab she wished me lots of luck. What struck me as both funny and weird was that something that is usually so private becomes so impersonal. But thank goodness there is so much research on secondary infertility to help ladies like us!!

Madigan · 15/03/2006 13:52

CONGRATULATIONS SKBF!!! THAT IS GREAT NEWS. HOPE YOU HAVE A VERY HAPPY AND HEALTHY PREGNANCY. LOTS OF LOVE xxx

HenniPenni · 15/03/2006 14:50

Bubbly, I really can't believe that you are 28 weeks already!! I just wanted you to know that although I haven't posted recently, I'm still thinking about you. I keep an eye on this thread to see how you are doing. Good luck. (kcemum)

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bubbly1973 · 15/03/2006 20:51

hennipenni, thank you Smile your so sweet, i cant believe how quick time has gone either.

hope you are well, thanks for thinking of me
xx

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ShouldKnowByFriday · 17/03/2006 12:07

Low HCG levels (see Clomid thread) so not looking good, thanks for all your good wishes and good luck to all of you trying this month!!

Madigan · 28/03/2006 12:08

SKBF - how are you?

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bubbly1973 · 28/03/2006 18:01

madigan, she has written on the 'clomid' thread, but for a quick update, she is pregnant Grin and its beena bit of a roller coaster for her as levels of hcg werent high as the docs would like them to be, but on weekend they were happy with them, and she feels pregnant too which is a good sign. she has scan tomorrow.

how are you? when have you decided to do your next treatment?

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Madigan · 29/03/2006 12:19

Hi Bubbly
Thanks for letting me know about SKBF - that is great news.
I am having a v down day today. AF has arrived, and I am feeling just so miserable. Fed up with everything and my frame of mind now is that it will never happen for me. Seems so unfair. I just don't understand why this should be so difficult, when all my friends seem to manage to get pregnant within a month or two of trying. I am fed up being the one with the fertility problem. It is just so boring and draining to have it on my mind all the time. Part of me thinks I should just give up on it and get on with my life. But am going to give IUI another go, so that I won't regret not having done so later on. So have booked in for 2nd cycle. But refuse to get my hopes up this time because I really cannot face the disappointment yet again. Sorry - on a rant today. just so fed up with it all.

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bubbly1973 · 29/03/2006 18:21

madigan, earlier today in skbf's scan, they realised that they got the levels mixed up and they werent rising as theyshould have, she has explained it on the clomid thread, so very Sad for her.

im really pleased you have gone on to have a 2nd go, please dont give up, i cant believe your af came, that was quick!! it only seemed like the other day you were about to embark on the 2week wait!!

this cycle should be less tense since you will know what to do and what to expect hopefully.

here if you need to talk
goodluck
xx
ps try to be strong and go through with it because one day like you say you may regret not giving it another go

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ShouldKnowByFriday · 29/03/2006 18:26

Madigan, please don't be down. Read what is happening to me on clomid thread. About to post again. Please cheer up. I have just had a llllaaaaarrrrggggeee glass of wine.

Madigan · 30/03/2006 10:50

SKBF - have read your posts on Clomid thread, and am just so sorry to hear about what has happened. What a cock up by the hospital. Feel vv sorry about it. you are being so strong and positive, it is fantastic. thinking about you.

HenniPenni · 07/04/2006 11:21

Bubbly... how are you? Hope you are well an enjoying your pregnancy. How many weeks now?

Bella23 · 07/04/2006 12:19

Madigan- really sorry to hear that you weren't successful this timeSad
Please find the strength to keep going as determination will pay off in the end. Glad you have booked your second round, will keep an eye out to hear how it goes.
Sorry you are having such a shit time xx

Madigan · 07/04/2006 13:05

Thanks Bella
Felt v down last week, better this week. Had a test for NK (Natural Killer) cells last week and get the results today. Did not know anything about NK cells, but apparently if you have too many they can prevent pregnancy.
On 2nd cycle of IUI - insem day Mon/Tues next week. really hope it works this time.
How are you doing??

Bubbly - are you around?

ShouldKnowByFriday · 07/04/2006 13:20

Hi Madigan. I am feeling very down as well, probably due to the disappoinment and possibly the Clomid which can bring mood swings. I have heard about these killer cells, maybe you could google them and I am sure you will find alot of info about them. Good luck next week for IUI. Would be interested to read your results and if that is the problem what steps they advise to counteract them?

Madigan · 07/04/2006 14:23

SKBF - sorry you are feeling down. You really have been through the mill, so it is not surprising really. Am thinking of you and really hope that you soon feel better. Will let you know results.
am dreading starting the 2ww again .... will not get my hopes up this time.

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bubbly1973 · 07/04/2006 21:14

hiya hennipenni, im doing fine thanks for asking Smile 9 weeks yesterday, and feel huge! i still cant believe i have been blessed once again

madigan, wow, i didnt realise its insemination day next week, please keep us posted and good luck.

skbf, i been checking up on you on the clomid thread ...i believe they call that being a 'lurker' Grin

dizzy, if you are reading this, how are you?

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