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Support through current IVF Cycle

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Flumpette · 19/04/2005 10:15

I go for egg collection on Thursday. Excited and scared of failure.

Is anyone currently going through this?

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dyzzidi · 22/04/2005 16:22

Good Luck!!!!!!!!!

BeachedWhale · 22/04/2005 16:28

So pleased the egg collection went well. Wishing you lots of luck.

BeachedWhale · 22/04/2005 16:28

So pleased the egg collection went well. Wishing you lots of luck1

BeachedWhale · 22/04/2005 16:28

So pleased the egg collection went well. Wishing you lots of luck.

BeachedWhale · 22/04/2005 16:29

So pleased the egg collection went well. Wishing you lots of luck.

BeachedWhale · 22/04/2005 16:31

Oops! Lots and lots of luck there!

bubbly1973 · 22/04/2005 20:49

flumpette, good luck and i hope its good news in the morning!!

when will they transfer them back into you?

Flumpette · 25/04/2005 07:39

All. I had updated this but it hasn't appeared, so here is the latest. We had 5 eggs collected and all of them fertilised. I had 6 eggs last time and the doctor commented that I don't produce many eggs but they are good quality. We had two 4 cell embryos put into my womb on Saturday and the others were too slow in growing to be frozen should we need them in the future. That is what happened last time. Hubby and I feel quite low now. I think it's really hard as we've been on that rollercoaster and have visited the hospital a few times and we've been able to share our feelings during the day but now the next two weeks are back to work as normal for him and me at home with our 13 month old boy (not complaining about that but it's such a long wait). Will keep you posted.

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bubbly1973 · 25/04/2005 07:49

oh flumpette, i know all too well how long the two week wait will feel like

i am here every step of the way, if you want to write down every twinge, them do it, if you want a moan then do it...whilst dh is working and your little one is sleeping, come on here to take your mind off it if you like, there will always be someone to help pass the time away or natter with you

try not to feel too deflated....i cant remember the posters name but the other day they were telling me about how they had a text book fertility treatment, everything went perfectly and they never got pregnant, then on 2nd attempt they were going to cancel the cycle as she was hyperstimulated (think thats the right word) her dh dropped his sperm sample...well it turned out to be a positive...so even though this treatment you have done isnt text book, you never know

all you can do is keep your fingers crossed and pray that it works

i am wishing you all the luck and babydust on this treatment and wish with all my heart that you get a bfp in two weeks time

xx

bubbly1973 · 25/04/2005 07:58

flumpette, re-reading your message, i think i took it as you were feeling low because you dont have any eggs to freeze cos they were too slow in growing, and that you dont produce a lot of eggs....

...but you say it happened like this last time, and you had success last time, so am i right in thinking you arent feeling low for this reason, and you are feeling low because dh has to go to work

if so, i apologise for my post

Monstersmum · 25/04/2005 10:49

Oh Flumpette - really really hoping it works!!

I too was feeling low about the quality of my eggs and then only 3 fertilised (out of 6) so we didn't get any to freeze either. I was also told that quality wise my embryos were just OK. They implanted 3 and one took. And he is now almost 4 and more than OK!!!!

The next two weeks will be hard. I remember it seemed forever. And I was CONVINCED that it wouldn't take. But obviously it did.

Take it easy and just try to have a nice quiet two weeks but try to plan some nice things to distract you a bit.

Wishing you all the VERY best.

Fi

bubbly1973 · 25/04/2005 11:31

monstersmum, i cant help but feel all warm and fuzzy when i hear stories like yours

Flumpette · 25/04/2005 17:59

It's a lottery!!!!

I felt low because whilst we were to-ing and fro-ing to hospital it was go go go and now it's the waiting game which is a snail's pace.

Feel better today and we spoke to friends who were successful as we couldn't remember their exact scenario. They had two 4 cell embryos transferred and they have 9 month old twins! We always thought our little boy came from the 4 cell embryo that we had last time but we'll never really know.

Reading the examples are a great comfort and overall I'm really positive so thank you for your support.

I guess you have to be positive to put your body through so much but every so often the doubt creeps in.

I took my little boy (don't understand the abbreviations - can someone enlighten me as to what is baby boy etc?) to a toddler group today and seeing his delight cheered me up so much. Last time we had the chance of being childless which was such a desperate feeling, so I know that whatever happens we're very very blessed.

MonsterMum, are you going ahead with treatment? I know you said you lived in Budapest. Are you English though? I have been to your beautiful city and thought what a great place to live.

Flumpette

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Monstersmum · 25/04/2005 22:31

Hi Flumpette - glad you are sounding a bit more postive. And like me are grateful for what you have - I woudl LOVE another but am so grateful not to feel that horrible empty childless feeling.

I am Irish but my OH is English and we move around a lot. Son was conceived through IVF carried out in Bangkok whilst we were living in Vietnam, we then moved to Bulgaria when he was born and moved to Budapest last year.

Saw fertility guy last week and he sounded very positive. Our problem is time. Either I am not here when I get my period or if I do I know that I will be travelling somewhere for the next one. I go home to Dublin regularly. May have to stay put for a while!

The reason we initially looked into IVF was that OH is impotent but then when they tested sperm it was ICSI or nothing. But Bangkok was easy - you just paid your money and it happened. It is a bit more regulated here and it turns out that OH has to see an urologist who will check the findings and then recommend whether or not we should hav IVF. So - slighly worried that urologist will try to solve problem - would love it solved obviously but just want a baby first. Other issue is actually getting OH there in the first place!

And timing is an issue as I am due mid MAy but DS due operationon undescended testicle in Dublin on 1 June - so timing won't work. Then friends arriving mid June for 3 weeks. Another trip planned for end July. Doc away end August. So it looks like it may be September. Unless period arrives early.

Sorry this is such a long post. Hopefully it gave you something to think about though!

Keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Fi x

PS DS was at doc with me last week and doc asked him if he would like a brother or sister - DS said he would like 2 older brothers and 1 younger sister!!!! Doc said he may struggle to get that!

Pruni · 25/04/2005 22:41

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wendy11 · 27/04/2005 20:14

Flumpette - how are you doing. Hope you are taking it easy and relaxing - I know virtually impossible but be as kind to yourself as you possibly can. I started the synarel spray today. I had totally forgotten how disgusting it tastes from my IUI attempts, so four weeks of that and then onto the injections. It seems such a long time but I know it will go so quickly and then a whole new set of worries will start. Hope to hear from you soon.

Flumpette · 27/04/2005 21:10

Hi Wendy11. I'm fine thank you. I've got an aching womb which I don't know if it's from the egg collection as I was sore after that or if it's the cyclogest taking effect or if it's something wonderful - I wonder what that is! So frustrating as the nurses can't tell you what to expect as we all react so differently. So it's back to being patient and the 2ww.

I do remember the sniffing - a bit like sulphuric acid. This time round I had injections of the same drug instead which were also a lot cheaper.

Have you decided whether you'll keep working during the 2ww or if you'll relax? I have tried to relax but very hard in my circumstances just to sit still. I haven't done any hoovering though but I have to lift my son and he is quite heavy for a 13 month old.

I'm rooting for you. Flumpette x

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Flumpette · 27/04/2005 21:20

MonsterMum - did read all about your travels. WOW! You lived in Bangkok. What a culture shock! I spent four nights there and found it absolutely fascinating. We got conned by a chap who must have seen TOURIST on our foreheads. Luckily my other half cottoned on and we didn't end up miles away in some clothes factory.

Do hope that your DS (?) gets what they want! By the way, can you give me a quick lesson on abbreviations. I tried to find info. but looking in wrong place perhaps.

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bubbly1973 · 28/04/2005 09:27

flumpette, was thinking about you last night and was going to post to see how you are getting on...

wouldnt it be great if someone could put you in a time machine that whizzed you past the two week wait!!!

good luck and i prayed for you, and have my fingers crossed that you are pregnant!!! xxx

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dizzy36 · 29/04/2005 16:50

hello everyone, I hope you don't mind me joining this thread. I am not at the stage that some of you are in that I have only this week found out that have possible tubal damage which could result in IVF treatment. Have been reading up on it and would be grateful if anyone could clarify how long the procedure takes from the the 1st apptment to the last - I have read that for egg collection have to go everyday for two weeks to see when eggs ready for retreival - is this right. Also, can I ask if any of you have had (or are having) ivf treatment due to tubal damage and if so what investigations/treatments did you have prior to going for the ivf. You'll have to excuse me if you see my name on a few threads, I know I am getting carried away and asking a lot of questions all over the place - was ttc for 3 years before got this news and need a little reassurance. thanks

wendy11 · 29/04/2005 17:58

Flumpette
If you are around I wonder could you answer a couple of question for me. What drug dose were you on. I start with 6 days of 200iu of Puregon, 2 days of 150iu of Puregon and then 2 days of 100iu of Puregon and then a scan to see how the eggs are developing. Also after egg collection did you bleed alot. Do you need to take a pad or pant liner along with you the morning of egg collection. I know I am away ahead of myself and should just take each day as it comes but I have so many questions that just appear out of no where. Hope you are keeping well and that the 2ww isn't getting to you too much.

Dizzy - I have only to go for one scan on the 31st of May and then egg collection scheduled for the 2nd June. If eggs not big enough may put me on another day or twos injections. I thought I would have to go at least every other day but seems not. Maybe different clinics have different protocols. Maybe Flumpette or some of the others who have been through IVF can help you out

Pruni · 29/04/2005 18:25

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Flumpette · 29/04/2005 19:34

Hi. Well, half way through for me and I'm keeping positive.

Yes I also have tubal damage and I just had a huge gut feeling that something was wrong so I told a fib to my GP and said I'd been trying over 2 years. I waited for a laporoscopy and by the time the appointment came it was more than 2 years since we'd been ttc. (learning the abbrevs. now!)

My tubes are scarred/blocked and I was told I had a 1% chance of conceiving.

Dizzy (I had IVF in 2003 and on our 1st attempt we fell pregnant and we have a beautiful 13 month old son). For the record I am 39 this year.

My clinic put me on the pill for 14 days and on day 15 I had a scan to see if my womb lining was ready to begin treatment.

I then injected a drug called Suprecur to shut down my ovaries (ie. menopausal symptoms). I think this was for about 8 days and then I began to inject Menopur aswell which is the drug to super-ovulate (sorry don't know doses off top of my head). 15 days later I had another scan to check the size of my follices (potentially these house the eggs but on egg collection there may not be an egg in each follice). They have to be at least 18mm before they'll do egg collection. 3 days later I had another scan to see if they were any bigger and 3 days later my eggs were collected.

Then 2 days later the embryos were transferred. (haven't gone into detail of fertilisation etc. as it's in messages below). So at our clinic it's not every 2 days. We are at a private hospital but we had things like a sperm test and HIV/Hep B&C (these two are mandatory requirements - and so they should be), done at our local hospital so that we didn't have to pay privately). Advice is to do as much of that as you can to save £££.

Pruni - after egg collection I was sore and starving! I did take a pad with me but I didn't bleed much, just a little bit of brown blood and a smell of iodine which I believe they sterilise equipment with.

Today first real day that I can't feel the soreness from egg collection.

One thing that I didn't realise is that after treatment one has cysts and last time I had a 28mm and a 32mm cyst. They disperse and are nothing to worry about, but I wasn't expecting that.

Lastly (now you'll think I'm crazy). I was introduced to a 'white witch' in 2003 who I had to send a photo to and a lock of hair and a letter with as little or much info. about me as possible.

She did a spell and told me that she knew the IVF would work first time. I spoke to her today and she will do a spell this weekend and again she said that we will be pregnant this time!

Sounds really silly I know but last time we had the results so I had to try again. She is a friend's sister-in-law and I knew that she had predicted who would and wouldn't have a baby in their circle of friends.

The things we do!! Praying and thinking of you all and it's great that you are thinking of me as that gives me the 'warm fuzzies'.

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dizzy36 · 29/04/2005 21:00

Thanks for your comments, much appreciated. It all sounds very complicated.(I am using BUPA hospital by the way). Flumpette like you I had a gut feeling something was wrong with me but because it took a yr to conceive last pg didn't take any action until a yr after trying this time. Dr was very vague about tubal damage and the likelihood of having IVF but I have been reading up and was disappointed to learn that if one is damaged then the other is likely to be as well. Am still hoping though that I have one good tube to work with! Can I ask flumpette how long you had to wait for your lap on the NHS, I am 37 next month and don't want to wait yrs for lap then for ivf.

Can I be cheeky and ask if your white witch friend does general 'readings' or just for friends. I don't think its silly at all. I have spoken to a couple of psychics! all said would have fertility probs and most said would conceive soon naturally but others said not, all said I would have another child at some point. Needless to say I don't take it all to heart

Flumpette · 30/04/2005 04:02

Hi. I think I waited for about 8 months for an appointment.

White Witch up to her eyes at moment as she has had a baby and had placenta preavia and was on the danger list, so wrong time to put pressure on her at the moment to do readings.

As you can see I can't sleep again!

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