**Hoping for December 2009 babies - lets join together**

[aideesmum]

Hi all,

AF arrived on Sunday so now if we are successful this cycle and it's as long as this last one baby would be due early December 2009. Anyone else?

aideesmum, TTC#2, cycle 6, UCL 27-32, cd3

First response is very sensitive though isn't it? Anyone know how many MIU? Doesn't say on the pack...

Oh bugger, I've blown my cover. Mollyfloss is in fact me Lishylooloo. I changed my name for this thread as some people I know might recognise MF and didn't want to broadcast ttc, but somehow it changed back. Anyway, don't tell anyone

Wasabi - that's exactly how I feel, too.

at Lishy. We were just saying how restrained everyone had been and there you are, buying First response

I wouldn't be able to resist though if I had them in the house Maybe compromise and do it Thursday morning if no AF ?

MrsJoe - don't be defeatist. You never do know

Have just sent you a FB, TSM.

Wow FAIKI!!! Congratulations, and Celebrations!!
Amazing news and makes me feel a bit better about my AF arrival this morning. That, and the thought of wine later tonight.....

AND, from the ovulation charts I have been checking all day, I can still stay on the December bus!! but will sit at the back and be quiet for a while and watch all the BFPs come in (which they will, I am sure)

I actually think I should be on the November bus BUT first babies are always late right?

And this was a lovely bus.

Big hugs to you all and hopefully someone will join me in BFP corner soon!

Actually about it's a fifty fifty chqnce of being early or late but psychologically it's better to tellyourself you are going to be late In any case enjoy your pregnancy!

Actually about it's a fifty fifty chqnce of being early or late but psychologically it's better to tellyourself you are going to be late In any case enjoy your pregnancy!

AF got me 5 days early...booooo!!

Now CD5 on a cycle that was 34 days and just shrank to 29...but was first after mc.

Hoping for late December baby if next cycle is 29 days, maybe same time as my 30th!!

Congratulations to the BFPs x x

Congratulations on the BFP FAIKI!

I've reached my fertile days, not happy that DH is at sea. Hes also said he doesn't want to try next month as he doesn't want christmas than a Jan birthday, Feb birthday (DD) and a March birthday (DS). Hes happy to restart in May which makes no sense as we'd be looking at another Feb baby. I don't think hes thought it through .

Oh, Award2912, my dd was born on my 30th bday - so sending you those lucky vibes!!!

Oh award, better at least that your AF came early so you can get on with next time sooner and hopefully still have a Dec baby!

Smallships, I'm not getting your DH's logic either. Maybe you can rediscuss and explain to him that it's very hard to plan a pg - best to try to conceive whenever you can, but then maybe he feels you can allow yourself a bit of planning with this one as you already have a few.

Still no AF here but things going on down there. I'm basically considering myself pg now which is crazy.

It's going to be very difficult to wait until Friday to do that test!

Oh God, even DH is googling 'early pregnancy signs' and if he caves and thinks it's a good idea to do the pg test I'll definitely follow! Is anyone there to persuade me out of it until Friday? Anyone? It sounds weird but I think I would be less disappointed by AF than a BFN....

Did someone congratulate us on staying away from tests? I am an epic failure as did already

Anyways, 4th is also epic failure as had 2 wines after work with the girls but you will be pleased to know it tasted like kak too so am now convinced must be pg and just tested too early as me not liking wine is unheard of. DP will be chuffed as we will save a fortune

Lishy, I feel it too - can't face another test, am really really going to try and wait until Friday AM to test (DP back Thurs, not Fri, clearly braincells have fallen out this week) and Friday I think is day 29 (list on other page!). Or maybe will test again Thursday.....

TTC #2
Feeling low.. 2 weeks late.. really thought was pg..had all the signs, tests(x3!) were neg, even had blood test at doc yesterday.. but this morning came on..any advice how to stop ttc from taking over my every thought?
Good luck to all TTC..

Hey sorry to hear your feeling low littlepicklesmum. It is so draining sometimes this ttc lark. I got AF yesterday and to take my mind off it all, I've been throwing myself into making my DD's life as much fun as possible and enjoying her company. That and wine, a good run and retail therapy are what works for me! Not necessarily in that order. I hope this is your lucky month and you get #2 soon xx

I came here this morning hoping someone might have some good news with so many towards the end of cycles but seems we all need great big hugs. And especially right now littlepicklesmum - especially as it seems you were up late and probably had a rough nights sleep.

Woke up feeling the faint pre-AF cramping I get - how can this be?? Yesterday felt so like I might have been lucky, how cruel are our bodies?? To add insult to injury, still feel sickly so probably have the joy of vile tasting everything for another day. If I can summon up the energy to get out of bed....oh hang on, vile boss still exists so best had otherwise will be having P45 to add to my woes.

Actually, I am with lpm - how do we stop ttc taking over everythought??

ps I am running horribly late for work, am sorry didn't update the list but when I did try that the other day, missed updating some of those who AF got so probably best I don't try anything too technical!!!

Still no AF for me and yet another BFN this morning... 6 Days late....

I'm now of the feeling that i'm either going to be really late like Littlepiclesmum (BTW sending big hugs to you) or just miss this one completely, so i've ordered up 30 new OPK's and now starting to temp, which i have no idea how to do, anyone help?

Hope everyone is having a good day....

Rtuff, I don't know how to temp as not started that yet but I did just buy a very very good book....(pops over to amazon as was so good have forgotten the title)...Taking Charge of Your Fertility: The Definitive Guide to Natural Birth Control, Pregnancy Achievement and Reproductive Wealth by Toni Weschler which is very easy to read (once you get over the american slant on it, apologies any from the other side of the pond, gosh am also assuming you are in the UK rtuff) and has tonnes of info in it.

And also hugs to you on the BFN. Other downer on feeling like kak today is realised if AF is on her way she's just going to get here about the same time DP returns from course. Sodding marvellous.

And now realise am selfish cow as today is also the anniversary of a very close family members death and I couldn't get time off for the memorial and the first thing I thought of this morning was TTC and all that.

4thtimelucky and Littlepickle - if there is an easy way to stop obsessing over ttc then I would love to know too. Am feeling really down today as had more brown CM which tells me AF is imminent (due tomorrow if usual 12 day luteal phase holds true) and I just feel miserable.

Doesn't help that the wind is howling, ds is at nursery and will be with my parents later (Wednesday is a work day for me but I work at home) and dh is going to be late tonight so I am basically on my jack jones all day. This isn't good - I have too much time to brood.

I'm so f**ked off with this ttc lark. I've just had enough of feeling like miserable. We were so happy when we concieved and just seem to have been waiting and waiting ever since - for mc to stop, for cycle to go back to normal, for ovulation this cycle......and now this.

All I can think about is ttc and I know it isn't healthy or constructive but I can't help it. I thought I was "over" my mc (well, as over it as you ever get) but I have never felt this crushed by the arrival of my AF.

Sorry to whinge - I'm just having a really shit day. Although I do have a lovely clean house as I have spent all morning cleaning to try and keep myself occupied. I guess every crisis has its upside.

Sorry to hear everyone is so down. If only we could order babies from the stork - it really would save a lot of angst!

I have an appt for the doc on Fri, as my pre-ovulation basal temperatures are sooo low - I can't even chart them, as all the usual conception charts start at 97 degrees, and I'm usually in the 96s! I pray I'm not hypothyroid or pre-menopausal...

Rtuff - you need a basal thermometer - a couple of quid on Amazon or Ebay, and you keep it by your bed to take it first thing every morning. Don't get up or do anything before taking it - it changes the temp. You'll see that your temp rises after you ov - after a few cycles, you get to see a pattern. Fertility Friend has loads on it - really good resource.

Do let me know what temperatures you get pre-ovulation, as I'm intrigued as to how low I am and whether anyone else is in the 96s!!

On the bright side, if anyone needs cheering up (and it sounds as if we all do!), The Apprentice starts tonight AND it's Desperate Housewives. TV bliss!

Am feeling brave so stealing updating idea from the Nov 2009 thread, updated list below. I can't believe that there are 12/13 of us who could know something good (ignoring all the negative feelings we have today!) by the weekend!

Off The Bus - Congratulations!
fatandiknowit

Still travelling:
RTuff: TTC#2 Cycle10 UCL 30 cd36
Zen1980 TTC#1, cycle 6(ish), UCL 30-33,cd35
notachance, TTC#3, UCL 28, cd29
cyphercat TTC#2 , cycle 1 UCL 26-39, cd30
MaryJaneH TTC#3 cycle 2 UCL 26 CD 30
gingerwine, TTC#3, cycle 6, UCL 26-28,cd29
donttrythisathome TTC1 cycle 1 UCL 29-33ish cd29
wasabipeanut TTC#2, cycle 6(ish),UCL 28, cd29
damnitdamnit TTC#2, cycle 5, UCL 35, cd28
NakedInnocence TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL28-30 CD28
4thtimelucky ttc#1 cycle 1 ucl 27-29 cd27
anniecam38 TTC#2 Cycle 5(ish) UCL 28 CD26
MissieMoosMummy TTC#2, cycle 4, UCL 28-32, CD25
nickytwotimes TTC 2 cycle 2 UCL 27 CD 24
Beamel TTC1, cycle 2, UCL 28, CD23
ray81 TTC2 Cycle 50 UCL 28-35 CD23
andi0411 TTC# 2 CYCLE 8 UCL 26-30 CD 23
alfiesmadmother TTC#4 cycle 3 UCL 28 CD22
homeschooler ttc#3 cycle 3 (Clomid) UCL27 CD21
MrsJoeMcIntyre, TTC#2, UCL24, cd21
fairywing TTC# cycle1 UCL29-30 CD19
willowthewispa TTC#1, cycle 1, UCL 26-40,CD18
dancingqueen TTC#1, UCL 32, CD18
Yumyum73 TTC#2, cycle 2 UCL 39 CD18
Warmseabreeze TTC#2 cycle 7 UCL 31 CD17
curlywurlee TTC#1 cycle 4, UCL 30, CD16
Liahgen TTC #6, cycle 1 after 5 mth break UCL, 26 days CD16
SmallShips TTC#3, cycle 2, UCL 30-32, CD 16
tillyscoutsmum, TTC#2, cycle 3, UCL 24, cd 16
sunshineday ttc#5 cycle 1 ucl 26-28 cd16
Jennybensmum TTC#2 cycle 15 UCL 28 cd16
skihorse TTC#1 cycle 5, UCL ~28, CD16
MintchocAddict TTC#2 Cycle9 UCL40+ CD16
MollieMooma TTC#1 UCL 28, CD16
latestarter TTC#1 cycle 3 UCL 28, CD15
forcessweetheart TTC#2 CYCLE 7 UCL 24-31 CD9
Skibelle TTC#1 Cycle 6 UCL 30 CD8
QueenofVenus ttc#4 cycle4 ucl 28 cd6
totalmisfit TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL31-35 CD6
Hobnob TTC#2, Cycle 5, UCL 26-28 CD5
nunnie TTC#2, Cycle 19, UCL 28 CD3
June 81 TTC#3 Cycle 1 UCL ? CD ?

TTC, was something I thought was easy open your legs and whoosh (I know there is other stuff in between but you get the jist). I completely gave up hope with #1 and could see my future and started planning miuns mini me, just as plans atarted to come together mini me came. I now really wish I could do the same again with #2 but it is not seeming to be as easy, think it is because I know what I am missing where as before I didn't. Plus the fact that I have no future life plan and can't seem to plan one that doesn't involve #2.

I blame the change in weather for my mood!!!

I never felt this obsessed with ttc dd. I think the reason why I am this time, is I am an only, and desperately don't want dd to be an only. So somehow I feel a greater sense of urgency and panic this time. AF due on Friday, but still have no symptoms, and as I said yesterday, am not pg. I conceived dd in cycle 2, so I don't know why I was so convinced I'd be lucky this cycle. I can't believe I was so arrogant and naive.

I just wish I could relax about the whole thing.