The Grapefruit drinking knicker checking ttc brigade

[yellowflowers]

Hello,

As Nelix has a bfp (yay!) and she started the last one I thought I'd start this one as a continuation of this thread

Here's hoping we all get BFPs this month but if not then let's continue the thread until we all graduate

Sorry that was meant to say dissapointment

Jools - I am so, so sorry. I remember you well from the first thread and how happy you were (and we all were for you). I?m saddened and a bit shocked by this and the fact that your 12 week scan date turned into such an unhappy day. I?m thinking of you. Let your heart and body recover ? and don?t rush it. Sooner or later though remember things will all go well for you and you?ll be holding your baby with all this far behind you. I know though now that?s likely to be of a little comfort as I know you wanted this one.

WRT me here?s what I did:
I went with frequency. I BD?d every day starting 1-2 days before my guessed ovulation and carried on for 6 days. In know what you mean though?? ? on the 5th and 6th day it was a bit of an effort ? which is an unusal feeling as I have always really enjoyed frequent sex ? but I think the dutiful aspect is tough!. I also usedOPKs to try and pinpoint ovulation. I also kept my bottom and legs against the wall for 20 mins afterwards (TMI?). I asked DH to lie with me and talk during this time so we felt closer and ?in it together? ? he even put his legs up with me one night!

However after saying this ? I?ve been doing these things for months!! I must admit I didn?t eat or drink anything different although maybe cut back on alcohol slightly. I was planning to give up in the new year to help my chances.
I did relax a little more this month. I am going to New York on a shopping trip with some friends at beginning of December and was thinking it might be nice to be able to drink cocktails there. I was also thinking of all the Xmas parties and that it might not be a bad thing if I didn?t fall pregnant until the new year. I don?t know whether genuinely relaxing helped as a few months ago I felt much more frantic.

Now I?ve decided ? no sex till I?ve had my 8 week scan, (DH agrees after last MC). Also have decided no alcohol and only one coffee a day and am taking my folic acid regularly and am sticking to warm rather than hot baths. I?m also only going to do gentle exercise; I can worry about weight gain once I know bean is safe.

Hey Becky what lovely words for Jools!!

Plus you seemed to have done everything right and they say that stress plays a massive part in conception, so maybe relaxing about it all did help you?! I'm hoping that it'll be my turn soon too, but like you say, it wont neccessarily be a bad thing as there is quite a lot going on over Xmas so will be otherwise occupied anyway. If we try next month and succeed we will find out 3 days prior to Xmas, what a lovely presant that would be! Fingers crossed for all of us who are still trying, and congrats for you xx

Thankyou for those words Becky - made me cry but in a good way As you can see, I am still lurking, (whilst eating choc and curled up on the sofa with 2 cats and a DVD)

Things are better today - scan at EPU confirms it is almost over, hospital preg test confirms HCG levels very low, and the pain, dizziness and blood loss is beginning to subside, so I can start to move forward.

As for BD'ing - I am lucky enough to feel when I ovulate and only BD'ed 3 times in my BFP month - a week before OV, 5 days before OV and the day of OV. I might consider the Deanna Plan next year, but am not sure that DP would be up for it !

Hi ladies,

wanabe if it helps (and it won't help you to keep clear of symptom spotting) i had a very tiny yellow/creamy colour spot around 10DPO and then i started having mild cramps until this day. Fingers crossed!

becky well done for those words, really comforting. As for the frequency, well done! that's a bit more than me!

As for us, we BD'd on CD8 then CD10 - CD14 every night and yes it did get a bit of a chore in the end which was awful! and me too with the legs in the air thing, position is important too (see previous post) no going on top for us!

We too have decided to wait until we have a scan to have sex, i read on the deanna plan website it should be avoided in you MC in first trimester so we have agreed we will do all we can.

I feel exhausted today, work is so busy for me and i have been feeling sick on and off too, not going to tell them tho until i've had a scan.

smiley how are you doing honey?

jools have posted on other thread, you have a lot of love and support coming your way xxxxx

Thanks Heeby,
I've noticed I've been having quite a lot of creamy CM this last few days too and feeling a little queezy at the mo but could always be my imagination. Not getting my hopes up though.

um .... i had a lot of creamy CM too.

Hi all,

First chance I have had to catch up for a few days.

Jools I don't have any words of wisdom just wanted to say how deeply sorry I am and voice my support (((Hugs)))

Hi everyone - its been busy on here today. Have just caught up.

My temp shot up today, and with a positive OPK two days ago looks like I OV'd yesterday. I'm glad to say my DH and I have managed to BD 6 days in a row. My DH's face fell when I told him I thought we'd probably done enough - so will jump on him tomorrow morning as a bonus surprise .

well done Pezz, we too have been BDing like mad since last Thursday, giving it our best shot so to speak Keep up the good work

You too sweetie - I don't think I've ever been at it so much . Definitely the fun part. x

Know what you mean, don't think DH can quite believe his luck

Hi everyone.

Well DP is not going well DH had to work late and as I get up early to go to work we haven't had the chance to bd... its CD11 and we are definately bd tonight and tomorrow morning (TMI). OPK sticks are not positive yet, so I am hoping I am still in with a chance this month. Goush its hard work getting the bd in. So fingers and toes crossed I have not missed my chance!

I have been inspecting CM and its really hard to get a good example... i think my cervix has moved up ... which is a good sign. Has anyone experienced not been able to collect enough CM for inspection or should I worry if I don't have enough? The small amount I collected was like egg yolk (raw) and was a little stretchy. Any advice would be grately appreciated.

stretchy egg white CM sounds good, the fact that you have managed to get a little is enough for the swimmers to live in. Keep at the Bding I'm sure there is more CM where it counts, its the sticky & creamy stuff that they can't live in

Smileycat Thanks you have made me feel much better. I have been feeling a little down today as I have tried to analyse my CM without any luck at all and am worried that perhaps I don't have any. My cervix has moved up and goush TMI but I can't seem to collect anything at all.

c1ndy I wouldn't worry too much about not being able to collect any CM. It sounds like your cervix is in the right place for OV as you can't reach it, that also means that unless you can touch the opening you won't be able to get any CM from it unless you have lots & it comes out when you wipe, some months I get lots & others like you find it hard to see whats there but it doesn't mean its not, it just that theres not much..but enough

Smileyc@t thanks again. Bd last night on CD11 .. I think I will ovulate on Sunday. So am going to get as much bding in as possible until then and then carry on for another three days once my OPK sticks turn positive, don't want to waste another month but get DH to commit to the bd is really difficult. He would rather it be more romantic rather than on demand but I told him that this is the only way to ensure we have the best chance to get pg. Why do men never understand!

Hi everyone,

Am cross posting as also on August thread but thought you might like to know about the acupuncture.

The acupuncture guy was really great - no joss sticks, no scented candles, no whale music (sorry if you like that, not my kind of thing). Long chat about periods and what they are like (flow, colour, clots etc) which a bit weird talking to a man about but he was very good. He reckons as I ovulate each month (according to 21 day bloods) that probably don;t need acupuncture unless I want it. He said it's not the cure-all but it may help but if I decide to wait a few more months to see then come back that's also fine - good to have some straight talking. It's quite expensive (£60 first session, £40 thereafter) so I'm gong to have a think about it.

The needles themselves were fine - barely noticed them.

I did find out some interesting stuff though. First, that you don't ovulate from each ovary in turn - he described it as like tossing a coin so over time you ovulate roughly half the time from one and half from the other but it could be the same one several times in a row.

Also he said that if you have pcos (I do) that ewcm not a reliable sign as you may get that and lh surge just as egg is fully developed but pcos can delay the actual egg leaving the ovary so it may be that I have my fertile stage a few days after these signs which could be why not getting pregnant as by time of ovulation dh and me so exhausted from all the bding we have several days off. Guess this is why Deanna plan good as that says you need to bd 3 days over ovulation and again two days after that.

But he also said that may not apply to me as I seemingly do ovulate. Only temping will tell me if I have ovulated and I can then look at chart to see if that matches lh surge and ewcm.

I actually did opk stick before leaving house and forgot about it and when I got home after seeing him these was a line - not quite dark enough but almost, so think I saw him just as I was about to ovulate. Then got home and had lots of ewcm. Dh was knackered last night but convinced him to do it this morning. Will try on Sunday too so hopefully we have it covered from all bases.

Sorry for long post.
x

C1ndy I start my OPk on Sunday as I will be CD10 so not too far behind you. My DH thankgod is all up for it, I had to keep him off me last night as we BD the night before & start DP tonight, he said he's happy to go at it for a week if thats what it takes, but I don't want him to ware out too soon as I probably won't OV till around Wednesday & will be happy to get as many BDs in when it counts & then relax over the wkend that we are away if I have OV'd by then

Yellowflowers the accupunturist (is that how you spell it?) sounds really good. I am thinking if I am still trying to give it a go in the New Year - I have heard so many positive comments about accupunture.

Hi ladies,

Thanks for the info Yellow sounds really positive and very interesting!

I'm noticing very odd things so either pg (yeah right!) or it's going to be an aweful AF!!
Me and DH have been at each others throats the last week and everything he does really irritates me. I get pms but never this bad. Plus I'm still getting that "wet" feeling in my knickers which is usually gone just after OV, and still having creamy CM (sorry tmi). what is going on???

I'm exhausted today, didn't set my alarm so slept late and ended up rushing to work so it's thrown me out completely and i think im coming down with something coz my head is very fuzzy im feeling very sorry for myself today!

Oh and I'm CD31, 11DPO today. The lovely AF is due to arrive on Monday. Joy!!

Just popping in to say hi Cindy, Yellow, Wanabe* and all you other lovely girls... AF is due next week and I am definitely feeling premenstrual - and a bit apprehensive as we will now be ttc in this next cycle! Thanks for seeing me through this last month of abstinence and gloom; looking forward to joining the ttc conversation properly very soon! x

Hey villagemum will be nice to have you on board!