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Morning! tink - that's v exciting!! and not that long to wait!!

Morning all,

KK - yes, please post the link to the Ricky Lake Doc - saw the trailer and sounds really interesting.

Saw today that Charlotte Church is pregnant with second baby so I guess I should stop thinking I am too young to be a mum!

Hope everyone has good days

Morning everyone.
Hope you can contain your excitement today Kay! Have a brilliant time tonight.

Here it is, Cosmo:
The Business of Being Born

Catch up with you later - we have music group this morning and then meeting a potential childminder this afternoon.

Morning everyone!

Ses - sorry to hear your news, but have a fantastic time in Cork - as you say at least you can enjoy a drink!! I also saw DD and the sissor sisters - though I nearly missed SS too because I hadn't heard of them. My friend dragged my in in time to hear them!

Ta for the tip re ebay cheapies. I use a monitor so am due to be peak tomorrow I think - it will save me a fortune in the 2WW!!

Have a good day all!

Morning all.

Hope you enjoy your concert Kay, no my cup of tea but I'm sure it will be a good night.

Hi Cosmo - know what you mean about the too young thing. I know half the people here are actually younger than us which is actually really nice and refreshing. However in RL I know no one my age or even several years older who is remotely ready to have kids. I do not know a single person mid 20's with a pg/baby/child. I know some people have them young of course, I have spotted people I vaguely knew at school pushing prams but out of the lot I was friends with at school, A levels and Uni, not one has kids. I suppose all my friends went off to uni and some then did masters/phds so have only relatively recently graduated, in fact I have one friend who is still at uni 8 years after she started just about to complete her phd and start her post doc which will be another 2 years. Therefore most of my friends have only really recently started their working life so would not be about to forfeit their potentially dazzling careers to have a baby yet, most think 30 is a nice age for a first kid.

How is everyone today?

Morning Playing! It's an interesting discussion this "age thing". I've always known I wanted to have children and lots of them. I was on the point of applying to do medicine at uni when my Mum told me that they weren't going to pay for me to study for 7 yrs if all I was going to do was get married and have babies at the end of it. It certainly wasn't the only factor that made me change my mind about medicine but it was a fairly major one! Little did I know that I'd spend my 20s making some poor relationship decisions and not meeting my Mr Right until just under 4 yrs ago. Hence I am now 35 and ttc dc1! Mosy of my friends have had dc1 around the age of 30 though so I think if I'd had the opportunity, I would definitely have been the first to start ttc.

It is interesting - I'm now 36, though was 35 when I had my m/c. The dr told me I was average age for Surrey, which was a relief because it took 12 months to get pregnant and I was paranoid that my age was a major factor.

Most of my friends had dc1 around 30/31 too and that would have definitely been my optimum age...

Yeah it is true. I think the ones that all quote 30 will probabaly find it slipping to 31/32.

I am in Hampshire but not that far from Surrey so maybe theirs a geographical thing, but I am not convinced.

I think maybe its an aspirational divide. A bit like there used to be a class divide. I don't think its so much class but an apsirational/lifestyle divide. Those women who want a good education, a good career, an expensive wedding with "the one", a nice house full of nice things, decent car etc all before having children delay having families. I just don't think there's time to do all in your 20's and certainly when you have all those things it costs a lot of money to keep those things so you can't afford to maintain your lifestyle and have kids. Whereas if your priorities are not education/careers/having lots of nice stuff then I think having children becomes more plausible.

I suppose it really comes down to not being able to have it all; there is no way you can have kids in your early 20's (unless your husband is older and richer)and have the education, career, big white wedding, and buy the house to fill full of nice stuff as well as a fmaily. So people have to choose. My mates all seem to be following the traditional uni, career, marriage, buy house, fill it full of nice things route and in RL I don't know anyone who has chosen the other route, but MN proves there are plenty of people who do.

Oh and I seem to be choosing a compromise of both routes to enable me to (hopefully) have a child at 26!!!

Would have been much easier I suspect in my 20s.
I put loads of pressure on DH, that we had to start trying for DCs at 30 and luckily we were just about sorted then, flat, married , careers stable etc
And i have had my ovulation day recalculated so now am ony D3 post ovulation, so loads of time to wait before really can start testing grrrgh

Yeah, I think we decided to compromise for several reasons. Firstly having a family is important to me, so I would hate to wait and then have problems, at least if I do have problems I have time on my side. Secondly, I am not that interested in a proper career. I have a job I mainly enjoy, that gives me responsibilty and pays reasonably ok but its simply what I do to earn money its not who I define myself as or my reason for getting up in the morning! Lastly, the housing crash has really quashed our chances of buying right now. We simply could not get a mortgage as we do not have a big enough deposit. So having kids seems the obvious choice at the moment for us. I think if we could buy then maybe we would put back having a family a few years but as we can't, we live in a lovely 3 bed rented house anyhow and I am broody as hell, so we have decided to go for it!

I don't think I've ov'd yet darrell as I am still getting loads of EWCM (CD21 today) but I think its should be today/tomorrow.

you see... i had the career, am a fully trained hairdresser, and still do friends and family in my spare time... but i gave it all up to be a full time mother... I want to go into property when the kids are older and at school... I fell pregnant with ds at 19, had him at 20, fell pg with dd at just over 20, and on my 21st bday i had an 18mth old and an 8 week old!!

We luckily could afford to live on just DH's wage when we found we were pg with dd (i was still on mat leave when found out) and luckily was able to buy the house through family dirt cheap, and although its not perfect with having 2 LO's we'd only be around £40 better off each month if i worked aswell after childcare costs.

I never planned any of this... in my grand 'plan' we'd be starting to ttc our 1st around now, we'd said DH would be 25 and me 23... but now its working that we're ttc dc3 instead!! its worked for us, but we've been very lucky along the way, if we'd not bought the house we'd be up a creek really as rent would be atronomical!!

oh and morning all... welcome all newbies... i'm now day 2 of cycle.

Hi everyone!

Playing, whereabouts are you? I used to live in Tilford near Farnham, but bought a flat recently in Aldershot in Hampshire. Are you anywhere near there? Just thought it sounded like you might be!I'm 25 next week too and hoping to be mummy and 26 so similarities there too!

There are quite a lot of young mums round here so don't think I will be out of the ordinary! Although I nanny in Surrey and all the moms at the toddler group are over 30. I would have been a mum a lot earlier but wantd to get degree and masters out the way so I always have them to fall back on, but personally I don't feel the need to have a career yet! Plus the fact Ive been with DH 7.5 years and can't wait any longer!

Yep, pretty close Gruffalo. Petersfield, Hants about 30/40 mins drive from Aldershot. Lived in Fleet a few years ago so know Aldershot pretty well.

I am being a bit hopeful I turned 26 last month so I might be 27 by the time LO makes an appearance, but one can hope!

Glask - sometimes things to just work out like that. Am very that buying a house is cheaper than renting! Rent isn't too bad in our town (we pay £900 a month) which is cheaper than a mortgage on a flat, if we owned the house we live in with a 5% deposit the mortgage would be twice the rent!

well luckily for us our mortgage is only £440 a month, but renting could be anything around £6-800... we lived in a grotty 2 bed 3rd floor flat at a cost of £380 per 4wks... i'd rather pay an extra £60 a month and own this house!! but if we'd have bought throguh the market and not through family our mortgage would have been higher and cost around £5-600pm..... though saying that jobs here are payed much less, but then the cost of living kinda equals it out, DH is earning way above average for the area, but its way below national average!!

right i have to dash, make some lunch for the kids then do the nursery run... i'm in my cleaning scruffs still and dont think i'll ahve time to change, so i'm gonna look awful at nursery!!! maybe i should splat paint over myself so i look like i've been painting!!... oh dear- whats the world coming to when i fear how i look at nursery???..... tata 4 now ladies!

Bye Glask

playing, you just never know! You may well be 26 and I may be 25 when first time mummy. How exciting! yes I know where petersfield is, been past there but don't think I have been there.

Would be great if we both conceived this month!

Oh yes it would be great. I would love to have a Mummy friend close geographically and in age!

Most people haven't been to Petersfield, but have driven past! No call to actually come here, its just a small "historic" market town.

If I am honest I am secretly hoping it will happen this month even though I know the odds are small. For me I seem to have had a good cycle and plenty of GOFing. I have had EWCM for several days now but I actually have tons of the stuff today so hoping ov is close which will be quite good as I am CD21 so hopefully might get a cycle just under 35 days. Am also happy with the GOF's, CD11, 13, 15, 16, 18, 19, 20 and as they have had a nice amount of EWCM to aid their journey I think I have as a good a chance as anyone this month, so even though that means about 20%, I am still feeling lucky . I think its good to have optomism even if realistic you know then chances are low.

Ah that all sounds good playing! Nothing wrong with optimism in my opinion!I have no idea what my cycle is doing. I'm just making sure we GOF very frequently! My DH is happy with that! My sis got pregnant first time of trying three times! I'm ever hopeful

My mum got pg instantly all 4 times (she had one mc) so i am hoping it runs in the family. However by my age so had conceived 3 times so she was younger than me.

My DH is actually finding all the GOFing harder than he though (no pun intended ). We're normally an every 2-3 days sort of couple so although we don't have tons of sex I didn't think upping it to every 1-2 days would be too much of an issue, DH certainly seemed keen. However he's already said he is starting to feel like its a bit to much. Men, they moan they don't get enough one min, then when they get plenty they moan its too much!

Mind you he is getting his own back, he has grown a ridiculous david brent beard. Under normal circumstance I would simply say "I'm not telling you to shave it off but you can not come near me with that on your face, your choice", guarentee to make him shave. Now he knows I am a sure thing he can grow it with immunity.

My mum took 2 years for first one!!!I'm trying not to think about that though! My sis did mc one of the three at 6 weeks.

We have only be trying since Tuesday so I am prepared for all the GOFing to start taking its toll on DH. Especially when he has to do shift work!

LOL at David Brent beard! You could shave it off in his sleep??!!

He looks like an idiot, but really doesn't care what anyone says!