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Vasectomy reversal success??

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terrier141 · 13/05/2008 14:40

Does anyone have experience of this? Hubby has just had it done and we are nervously awaiting the outcome!

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KatieDD · 04/06/2008 17:32

Oh fantastic news, fingers crossed !

terrier141 · 06/06/2008 17:39

Hey Katiedd - isnt tomorrow the big day?? Really hope you get some encouraging advice - and maybe even a date for surgery??
How are you PM - you have been quiet these last few days! Hope you are not letting things get you down too much! lol!! Easier said than done I know! Well Im on cd24 of 28 and really dont think this is gonna be my month. All the symptoms I had imagined are well and truely gone now - i cant even imagine them!! xx

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KatieDD · 06/06/2008 19:06

Bloody hell it is tomorrow (shaking icon).
I am actually scared stiff so is DH and according to my cycle i should be ovulating and i'm not i think this is going to be a rocky road.
The cat had 4 kittens today though so that was nice (and slightly baby related)

terrier141 · 07/06/2008 08:11

You'll be fine!! I'll be thinking of you anyway! Great news about your kittens!! When I was feeling really down about not being able to get pregnant last year (when we couldnt afford op) I went out and got 3 kittens! I was feeling really broody and it sort of helped to have some "babies" to look after! They are now about 1year old and still my babies!! Had a similar desire to go and get another dog a few months back too - though dh put his foot down on that idea! In hindsight it wouldnt have been the best idea!! With 4 kids, 3 cats and 1 dog its quite crowded already! Dont know why i told you all that!! Good luck for today!! xx

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KatieDD · 07/06/2008 08:34

Thanks Terrier

KatieDD · 07/06/2008 13:04

Well he's back, another row
But for £160 he told DH that the operation has a 90% success rate, £2500 in total and then it's 50/50 if I will ever get pregnant. I'm not liking those odds, especially as he said it can take 2 years to get to optimium sperm count.
I cannot wait 2 years, I just can't.
I want to go straight for IVF, it's not like we want 5 kids, so DH wouldn't actually need a reversal, they could just suck it out. I'm also worried about my cycle being messed up, IVF seems more immediate and guaranteed or am I kidding myself ?

terrier141 · 07/06/2008 17:26

God i dont know - its really hard isnt it - I can totally understand how you feel. How much is th IVF option? Do you know the success rates for IVF? Not sure if its correct but I'm sure I've read somewhere that its only about 25% (hope im wrong on that one!) Bet you are really disheartened now after all that waiting - they are not very encouraging (consultants) - although I guess they do have to prepare us for bad news. Know how you feel about not wanting to wait 2 years to find out if its worked - Im only on cycle 2 and already really depressed with it all. I know we couldnt afford IVF aswell and my dh has said absolutely no way to it anyway - reckons its too invasive - but I just know if this doesnt work i will be pestering him to reconsider and trying to find the money!

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pinkmook · 07/06/2008 17:51

Hi Terrier and Katie - been busy in rl the last few days, going ob trips out and things to lessen the stress of TTC!

Katie I really feel for you, I went through the same crisis of confidence in having a reversal but always got advised it was best to try for a reversal first - even the GP and family planning said the same I found the follwing (cut and paste) sums up the advice I got from most people!:

The pros and cons of vasectomy reversal and IVF are the following: If a vasectomy reversal is successful then it can lead to natural conception which for most couples is most desirable, cost effective and fun! It requires only one procedure be done and then most people are on their way. Reversal is about one half the price of a single cycle of IVF when all expenses are added up. A study published several years ago showed that total costs were three times as expensive to deliver a child conceived with IVF versus a vasectomy reversal. The cons of reversal are that it doesn?t always work, some men don?t want to have a reversal and that it may take a fair amount of time to conceive after a reversal. The mean time to pregnancy is about 12 months following a reversal but this is distributed on a bell shaped curve (Gaussian) so some people will get pregnant sooner and others later then 12 months.

The Pros of IVF are that it offers the quickest way to get pregnant in a given month but it doesn?t always work, as a matter of fact most couples will have to go through more than one IVF cycle to deliver a baby. Remember that pregnancy rates don?t mean a live baby. IVF is an excellent alternative if a vasectomy reversal has failed or if there is female factor infertility as well as male factor problems.

The cons of IVF are several fold. IVF is expensive, much more expensive for the same statistical result as reversal. Many women do not react well to taking two weeks of fertility injections and the medications can have side effects ranging from very mild to very severe. Many couples are hesitant about having a test-tube baby unless it is the only alternative. The whole process also requires that a man undergo a procedure to get sperm for IVF although is it not as detailed as a reversal procedure. Lastly, there is close to a 30% chance of having multiple births with IVF that can compromise the health of the babies and complicate the pregnancy in certain circumstances

Myth #6: If you only want one more child then In-vitro is a better option than vasectomy reversal and than having a vasectomy again.

Fact: Since there is a 30% chance of having twins or triplets with IVF, vasectomy reversal is usually a better option for couples wanting only one more child. Couples are often told to have IVF rather than a reversal and another vasectomy. This is usually very appealing to the husband but not so for the wife who has to go through the injections and egg harvesting procedure. The truth is that it is still way less expensive to have a reversal and a second vasectomy if needed down the road than IVF. Now with the no-scalpel vasectomy, vasectomy is a quick and relatively painless 10 -minute office procedure. Remember that it will take time to conceive and carry the pregnancy to term so most men won?t need another vasectomy by the time it is all over.

But having read all that I think you have to make the decision for your individual circumstances. I would research IVF, the costs, the physical process etc and decide based on that - its very very hard to know what to do for the best.

Good luck with it, we'll be thinking of you xx

KatieDD · 07/06/2008 20:34

Right off he trots then lol
I think having read a bit more about it, I cannot spend £5k and still not have a baby to show for it, £2500 will be horrific enough tbh, I have to think of the other children.
Twins is just not something I could cope with either, my mum had twins and did a rubbish job of bringing them up purely because it was all too much for her.
Right, well the consultant said there is a waiting list of a few months so he needs to get on it asap !!!

pinkmook · 08/06/2008 07:31

They are horibble devil and the deep blue sea type decisions to make aren't they? I remember looking into it before DH had his reversal and even now we dont yet know if his reversal will be enough to get me pregnant or if we'll need further intervention (i.e IVF) but at least even with awful sperm results like ours there are some hopeful stories on here where people with similar or worse results have got pregnant (and more than once!)

Let us know when your surgery date is and we'll send positive vibes your way!

terrier141 · 08/06/2008 14:07

Good luck katiedd - cant you get dh in with another consultant a bit sooner though? We approached about 5 and all of them said we would only need to give them 2 weeks notice - thats what you expect with private surgery!
by the way Im now on cd26 of 28 but am 99.9% sure its not our month!

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pinkmook · 08/06/2008 15:11

Yeah agree with terrier Katie it does sound an awfully long time to wait!

Terrier - good luck for this month! I am on tenter hooks for you! How you haven't tested yet I just dont know - I am terible, have a big bag of internet cheap tests and start testing at oooooh I dont know 9DPO!!

Let us know how it goes! xx

pinkmook · 08/06/2008 15:12

terrible

welshlinz · 08/06/2008 15:44

Hi all, I've been reading your threads with great interest as me and my husband are desperate for another child but he had a vasectomy nearly two years ago. We are booked in at the docs on Tues to see if it would be safe for me to have another baby first as I had an inverted uterus with my child, so if he says no then the reversal is a no no anyway. Can't believe how much its taking over my life at the mo. Will be devastated if we cant have any more children since we started discussing things again !!!

KatieDD · 08/06/2008 16:52

This surgeon is at the hospital in the same suburb as us so i think DH would prefer to go locally but good point, I'll maybe ring around, how do you judge each surgeon though, I had this problem when i had cosmetic surgery, didn't want to just pick the cheapest in case that reflected their ability so went for the nearest.

Welshlinz, pull up a pew and welcome to the club none of us want to be members of for long

I have everything crossed for you Terrier

pinkmook · 08/06/2008 19:38

You're def right there Katie - this is the most unpleasant club to be a member of IYSWIM!

I judged mine on distance/price/ microsurgery - it wasnt the cheapest but they did microsurgery (which was a must for me after researching the issue) and it was relatively close. I think there is less of a waiting time in the North of England than the south too - I am guessing you are down south Katie?

welshlinz welcome! Feel free to offload here we are a very understanding bunch and I have found it really really helpful being able to chat to people in the same boatr as me.

xx

terrier141 · 08/06/2008 21:39

Hey welshlinz - welcome to our gang! Im assuming your welsh?? Me too!(random fact!)Hope it all goes well for you!
katiedd - tbh i wish I had done a bit more research before chossing a consultant - not even sure if he used microsurgery or not! Stupid of us really when you consider the implications. We did have a bit of a debate because dh wanted the one we chose simply because of location - I wanted someone I thought seemed a bit more professional but was further away. Guess you need to know a bit of history eg how many reversals have they done, success rates, technique etc?
btw PM i HAVE tested (several times!!) with ebay cheapies and they have all been BFN's!! Keep telling my self they are unreliable!!

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welshlinz · 08/06/2008 22:02

hi, thanks all for welcoming me to the group. Must admit, I feel really naive after reading all your posts at my attitude to the reversal. Thought it would just be a case of operation and then pregnancy and now after reading the facts, I'm discovering it'll prob take a year at least, if it ever happens at all !!!! Am certain its the right decision though and just crossing my fingers now that the doc will say I'm safe to carry again. xx

pinkmook · 09/06/2008 06:54

LOL Terrier! I thought it was just me addicted to the little buggers (tests!)

Linz - I read some research before embarking but still naively assumed it wouldn't apply to me and that I would get pregnant straight away! That and the fact my doctor kept telling us his sperm tests results were all "normal" (they sooooo were not normal!)

Its a weird journey I feel, and one thats not well understood by people in other situations. The best of luck with your docs appointment. Keep posting and we'll keep rambling on and together we can support each other in some ramshackle fashion!

xx

terrier141 · 10/06/2008 09:59

Bit down today girls - cheer me up! Did ebay cheapy today and there was the faintest line on it ever - so I got really really excited and opened my CB digital (the ones I'd sworn I wouldnt use unless I was pretty sure there was a chance)and I got a BFN! Couldnt believe how gutted I felt - somehow its easier to cope with lack of a line - but when it quite clearly tells you "not Pregnant" its a real kick in the guts! Buggar - now I have wasted my CB test!

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terrier141 · 10/06/2008 10:00

Linz - sorry - I got so caught up in my own self pity - I forgot to wish you good luck with th GP today! Fingers crossed for good news for you! xx

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welshlinz · 10/06/2008 11:14

Hi terrier, gutted about your test. Any chance it could be too early to detect the preg hormone ? Only saying this cos with first baby, I got 3 negs and 2 positives at the start. Keep trying !! Just got back from the docs and had some great news. I am safe to carry but will just need my own consultant aswell as mdwife and constant check ups, scans etc. The only thing is I must have a c-section and a vag birth is a DEFINATE NO NO !!! but don't want to get ahead of myself as hubbys not booked in for reversal yet !! Really pleased though with the outcome today x

terrier141 · 10/06/2008 14:52

Thats great news welshlinz!! Now you can officially join our club! lol! Get dh booked in quick smart! Dont think its too soon to test for me though unfortunately - am due af tomorrow and although I dont trust the ebay cheapies I think the CB digitals are pretty reliable at only 1 day early - no symotoms or anything either - so am guessing its right . Also I felt pg with my other 2 dc's way before af was due and the tests were positive on day af should have arrived. Im trying not to be too disappointed cos this is still only cycle 2 so early days - its hard though!

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KatieDD · 10/06/2008 23:28

((((terrier)))) It'll happen, i'm sure it will hun xxx
Linz, that is a great step in the right direction, brilliant news.
My cousin had a boy today, called Archie, bless him.
Am going to see them at the weekend to see if that swings me one way or the other, I'm still dithering

pinkmook · 11/06/2008 17:41

aww Terrier for you its horrible isnt it?

Have to start gearing up for the next round of BDing thought now wont you I am cd8 or 9 (Ithink! need to check FF)so am starting BDing on day 12 (as I ov'd on day 17 last cycle)

Katie - I bet seeing the newborn makes you want one - it does me anyway!

Welshlinz - yay excited for you! Get DH booked in then asap!

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