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Vasectomy reversal success??

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terrier141 · 13/05/2008 14:40

Does anyone have experience of this? Hubby has just had it done and we are nervously awaiting the outcome!

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KatieDD · 20/05/2008 18:13

I do not know anybody who was offered counselling tbh the GP's seem very keen to organise vasectomy's and very quickly my child was 6 weeks old, DH made the first appointment whilst on paternity leave so she would have been a few days old at most and he was all done 6 weeks later. I was hormonal, had just given birth, he said I didn't complain loudly enough at the time but why would I, I was too bloody busy.
Counselling should be standard for male and female and should involve current partners too.

pinkmook · 20/05/2008 18:31

KatieDD thats terrible, I know GP's deal with lots of other shit but God, its such a life changing op, people are under massive mental strain often when these decisions are made and its like I have had a member of my family taken away (i know that sounds slightly dramatic but thats how I feel) my DS has been and may now always be denied knowing what its like to have a sibling.

pinkmook · 22/05/2008 11:21

Morning KatieDD and terrier141 - how are you both doing today? I just purchased my saw palmetto (as reccomended on the sperm analysis thread!!) really hope it makes a difference. Did you get your sperm test done yet terrier?

terrier141 · 22/05/2008 13:29

No not yet, but will have to - cant cope with not knowing much longer. Have ordered a Persona thingy off ebay -silly really cos dont know if hes got swimmers, so might not matter whether Im ovulating or not! CD9 for me today, have started trying again already though - well cant just do it on ovulation days - have to keep him happy! What day are you on now Pinkmook? Any encouraging signs yet?
Katie dd how are you feeling? Bet you are fed up with all the waiting and just want to get started. xx

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pinkmook · 22/05/2008 20:01

I have a persona but with my irregular cycles i gave up after 4 months! CD17 for me - there are some signs I may have ovulated on day 15 but my temp hasn'e risen by much yet so not entirely sure!!

Get to it girl! I bet he has some swimmers!!

KatieDD · 23/05/2008 09:16

Hello Pink and Terrier,
I'm feeling a bit more positive now, I've worked out my cycle has just moved to 30 days so am worrying less about that.

We were talking names just messing around last night and he seems to be almost interested now after months of "i'm not promising anything"

Am desperate to get started, It feels as if it might really happen now

pinkmook · 23/05/2008 12:37

fantastic KatieDD - so glad he's starting to come round a bit! I sthe reversal booked for july did you say?

KatieDD · 23/05/2008 14:03

He has the first consultation on the 7th June, so should be 4 weeks from then fingers crossed.

Any news on your ovulation dates ?

terrier141 · 23/05/2008 15:14

Katie - not too long to wait now then - although I know it seems like forever when you are waiting - just cant wait to get started. Glad hes feeing a bit more optomistic though - thats half the battle. My dh keeps telling me he feels like he's letting me down, although thats not how I feel at all - I do get disappointed but then I did know when I met him that he'd had it done, this didnt stop me wanting to marry him. I know that yours and pinks situations are very different so can understand your frustrations though. At the moment I feel really obsessed with this whole ttc lark - dh says we should just "see what happens!" - unfortunatley I cant do that - i need to be doing opk's and the likes and charting my cycles. Dh feels its all too clinical - but I just feel desparate for it to happen!How can a month feel like such a long time?!! xx

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KatieDD · 24/05/2008 17:44

Am really upset now, I've just heard that somebody on another forum got a reversal on the NHS, we've been told no chance, how unfair is that

pinkmook · 24/05/2008 21:13

I have only ever heard of revesals being performed on the NHS in really awful circumstances like the death of a child

KatieDD · 24/05/2008 21:31

It was in 1995 apparently so maybe things have changed, she said no terrible/exceptional circumstances and

pinkmook · 25/05/2008 08:25

ah if it was 1995 it was like you say probably before the rules changed.

pinkmook · 25/05/2008 08:31

How you going on anyway KatieDD? Looking forward to the 7th JUne?

fertility friend just adjusted my ovulation day from day15 to day 17 grrrrr even longer to wait and obsess now!

Have been doing some research and am now pretty sure we wont be able to conceive without assistance

Seeing the gyne consultant on Tuesday next week though so hopefully they will refer DH to a urologist and see what they can do about his "ishooos"! I wonder if they will "unblock" his tubes on the NHS (i.e do a repeat reversal!!!??? - I can only hope as a redo reversal with the private clinic we went to is close to 4 grand

KatieDD · 25/05/2008 17:11

I am counting the days until 7th June, but feeling a bit nervous too. My neighbours just found out she's having a boy after 3 girls and I am so tempted to give her all my boy stuff, seems almost mean not to on the basis that I am not actually pregnant but i just don't want to

I think it's worth asking if they will unblock tubes on the NHS, bloody hell when I think of somebody who lives near us, had IVF on the NHS, smoked and drank all through the pregnancy as a result ended up with premmie twins who have no end of problems and now her and the boyfriend get carers allowence, it's a joke.

I wonder what you have to do to get IVF on the NHS, because they already had one child without it.

Hmmm might be my next bit of research.

pinkmook · 25/05/2008 19:10

hey if you find out any info on getting IVF on the NHS let me know! From the research Ive done they will only do IVF in my area if you dont have any children (or after death of a child) - but if you find out anything that can swing it please do let me know and I'll do vice versa!

Let me know ho your app goes on the 7th

xx

terrier141 · 27/05/2008 10:02

Hey Pinkmook - is it today you have your appt?? Good luck if it is and let me know how you get on - Im thinking of you!! Dh is not amused that I ordered Persona - he reckons our life is gonna be controlled by it! He has finally agreed that I can ask gp for sperm test though! Hope you get some encouraging advice today - fingers crossed for you xx

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pinkmook · 27/05/2008 10:30

Hiya terrier - yep the app is today!! Am really scared but excited - not sure what they will say, frightened in case its all doom and gloom....thanks for thinking of me

good luck with your DH's analysis

xx

KatieDD · 27/05/2008 18:40

Bouncing for Terrier, how did it go hun ?

pinkmook · 28/05/2008 07:51

Not great but not really really terrible - we got to see what his original sperm reults were (3 months post op) and they were something terrible like 5 million/ml, 1% morph and 10% motility so at leat going off that they have round about doubled in all 3 areas - but as the consultant said they are still not normal/fertile results.

Dh has to have more detailed sperm tests done at a bigger hospital that will measure sperm antibodies

I had an internal (yack) and several swabs taken to rule out infections internally (there was loads of blood and he said maybe I am due AF - but unless Ive had another stupid annovulatory cycle then I shouldn't be due on for about 10 days so now think I DIDN't ovulate - poop)

I have to repeat the day 1-3 blood tests and go for a pelvic scan.

He also said there is no chance of IVF on NHS as even though DH has had a reversal - a vasectomy in your history totally rules this out. He sad it would cost about 4-5 thousand for it as he would probably need ICSI as well as IVF (think this is right - might have the terminology wrong)

Wasnt saying I couldnt get PG but not particularly encouraging either.

Mega fucked off to be honest. Was meant to be back in work today but cant face it

KatieDD · 28/05/2008 10:08

Ah hun, it's awful isn't it, is private treatment an option ?
I keep thinking it's too indulgent and not fair on the rest of the family.
This is causing so much tension here, how are you both coping, i feel like i

pinkmook · 28/05/2008 10:41

Its a possibility but not sure how we'd scrape the money together and when you read that 70% of IVF fails its pretty grim.

At the moment we are doing OK but not sure how long that will last. He has expressed real regret for the first time yesterday about what he's done and said if he could turn the clock back he would - it kind of took the wind out of my sails and I didn't feel so angry with him any more.

I guess I am trying to adjust to the now very real possibility that I cannot have anymore children - but am gripped with fear of anything happening to my DS - if it does I wont be a mum any more - I know that sounds weird but my brain is going loopy.

Also - really fucking dreading going back to work as my colleague loves to tell me I should be grateful for what Ive got - as if I'm fucking well not grateful {sad] I know she means well but I just fell like going into my shell when she says it.

Feel for you with the tension at home - we had loads of that here before DH's op - lots of "well I'm not going to have a reversal style arguments

KatieDD · 28/05/2008 15:47

I'd be very tempted to tell that colleague where to get off, cheeky mare.
At least hopefully your feeling more supported now if he feels regret.
70% failure rate, that's worrying, just don't know what to suggest.
You'll always be a Mom no what matter, but yes i do know what you mean, it's so hard.

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terrier141 · 29/05/2008 09:41

Hi PM - just read what you said bout your appt - sorry its not encouraging news - sounds like you are having a tough time all round . The one positive I did notice though from your post is that you said your DHs results have improved? - hopefully they will continue to improve aswell?? I know its still nothing too hopeful - but just wanted to find one positive to focus on!! I have read other forums where the DH's results were really poor and they'd been advised it was hopeless - only to conceive naturally much later as the sperm results had improved over time. I know things are more complicated than that for you - just trying to cheer you up!! xx

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