TTC No.17 - Heres hoping for a very fertile New Year!

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Thanks for suggesting that I start this thread - its a real honour. Won't be leaving it yet as am only on cd24, despite getting bfps from the 3 tests I have done today (paranoid or what?!).
Lots and lots of babydust to everyone. If this pg is successful, I will have conceived in the midst of an awful cold so that should give everyone some hope. Lots and lots of hugs.....

Hi everybody - no i'm not new (i was wog shh shh - dont say out loud) Found out tonight after having name for 21/2 years having been causing offence - so I am now mummygow - so you know were my nicknames from gow = wog so I am really sorry to any of you if this name upset or offended you in anyway!!

And so my stats are as follows:

TTC baby number 2
Took 8 months to conceive 1st time
dd1 is 21/2
I am 28
I am on CD7 (I think thats right)
my cycle is about 31 days (can check that for sure this month)

and again thank you for all your help - i'm sorry I dont know everyones situations yet but as I go on I'm sure I'll get to know you all and good luck to everyone!!!!!

G'day girls,
Just spent nearly 1 hour catching up but really it doesnt suprise me i have been away for so long .
Morningpaper congratulations!
Yingers so sorry about you m/c take care of yourself.
Munzie sorry about your appointment i have been there the hospital made me wait 7 months for my lap & dye and i was only meant to wait 3. It makes you so mad doenst it. I would ring every week for a cancellation appointment eventually the secratary will get the msg and will just fit you in so you stop bugging her worth a try anyway and at least you will feel like you are doing something. Thank you so much for thinking of me I was starting to wonder if you all had forgotten about me as i havent been around. Feeling abit lost atm dont really belong on any threads. Not many people doing ivf on this site and the aussie sites are not as busy as this one you can wait days b4 someone posts a msg
Jeddah what happened at your appointment hope you are ok. (((((hugs))))))
Good luck to those waiting to test.
Well not much happening here. Start the first lot of ivf drugs next Wednesday that one is the spray that you snif twice a day for 2 weeks then i start the injections around the 16th of Feb and hopfully have the embrio transfer in the last week of Feb to the first week in March then 2 weeks after that i find out if it worked or not [worried face icon] when we find out that we are pg we are only 2 weeks pg. isnt that the longest wait till the safe time 12weeks. Then keeping it a secret for that long i didnt find out i was pg with ds until i was 7.5 weeks. We would be due around the 5th of December if i carry full term if i dont then i could have the baby on ds 3rd birthday
Oh just listen to me going on like iam already pg i will be in for a real shock if it fails mustnt think like it will work first shot should i.
Anyway hope the rest of you are well and i will pop in more often.
Love to you all and Baby dust all round.
Tania

well girls........
had our appointment yesterday and to be honest we are both still upset and in shock at how negative the Dr was!

He asked a few questions (5 mins max)told me that all OPK and persona are crap and a waste of money (laughing down his nose!) put our notes down and said...... 'the only chance you both have of having a baby is IVF'!!!!!!

I was speechless!.....what about all the investigations to examine my tubes/ovaries etc etc etc............

My dh sperm count is low and combined with my age he said the chances of us becoming pregnant is.......'very very unlikely'! and time is a big factor

Apparantly my fertility drops dramatically when I am 42yrs (10 months time)......and because dh has a low (moderately low) count...at the mo I have a 2% chance of being preggers and if we had IVF ours cahnces rise to 7-8%.....and wait for it.........it will cost us £3500-£4000 for one attempt!

I asked if dh gave up smoking and changed lifestyle would that help in us concieving naturally,,,,,,, he said it may help a little and that...... 'people do win the lottery'!!!!!! (meaning that million to one chances do happen!!!!!!)

There are now lots of issues from this that we have to deal with and I am just so shocked!

Do we pay £4000 to increase our chances to 7-8%????

Do we still try naturally for another 6 months??(as he said miracles do happen!)

Do we forget the whole thing?

We are going back for another hormone test (te see quality of my eggs and quality of dh sperm in a months time and an appointment to discuss future plans on 18th March.

just a quickie to let you know that I am weak and tested this morning (11dpo). Was, of course, a BFN. Sure I'm not pg and it's too early but still disappointing.

How are you doing Marinda and Hula?

have to dash now to get DS up and get ready but will catch up properly later...

(((jedds))) - OMG. Honey, you poor thing. What an sbsoulete WANKER of a Dr. No matter what is going on he should never have made you feel that way. God, it gets me so when I hear about Drs with NO communication skills. Sorry, won't go off on that particular rant now...

Have to dash now and don't want to offer som half cocked advice but will read your post properly later. In the meantime just remember that you don't have to decide anything today and you musn't feel backed into a corner.

btw - my consultant told me that stopping smoking has an almost instant (ie days) positive effect on sperm count. DH only smokes when he's out drinking but if I'm not pg this month will be asking him to stop around Ov time at least from now on. I would say that is definitely worth a try - or certainly more research.

chat later. lol RD xxx

OMG Jedds, what a B***d, ur doctor is, is there no other doctor you can see? I'm gob smacked for you. can you talk to your normal GP? I would suggest you speak to your normal one to see if theres any other gyno you can see, poss an infertilty specialist (thou this is now the one i'm waitin for and it's a 6 month list) in the mean while go for your visits and other checks, and push for the whole tubes issue, IVF should really only be a last resort once all other avenues have been exhausted (in my opinion thou) any use in going with BUPA? (we're currently looking into it)

Hula - Dr didn't get in touch, what are you going to do now instead of teach? or are you going supply? any news ur end?

Rudy - it's too early hon! on my large percription pad I have advised a big bar of dairy milk! : talking of which actually DH went to the shop yesterday and brough me back one of the 200g bars, 'just because' (I think he knows i'm still miffed about my apt and the fact ppl are not returning my calls from the Army and also the drs, - they know I want to have a go at them all! lol)

Good luck Tania - fingers crossed - and now I don't ant you snorting tooo much of this srpay stuff ok..... u'll be no good to us then!

Cockenzie - Good to see you back hon, have you got ur new house sorted?

Rudy/Jedds, DH has agreed to stop smoking (of his own accord btw,) he's been paying £7 for 200 in Iraq and doesn't want to be payin £5 per pack over here, at least I've told him if he still wants to smoke he'll be back on the baccy, which he doesn't want to do, which is good cos after 3 months of a non smoking house the house reeks of fags, and I mean reeks, even thou the windows are all open - then again his parents both smoke as well, so we've had extra, but once he stops it will be a non smoking house, will urs be, or would you still allow smoking?

MG - BD every other day if you can manage it that much (least that's howe often we do it)

marinda - only one more day hon, we're all here for you if you're feelin down. don't worry about it hon, we all have those days.

any how, we've decided not to try so hard, (thou i'll still be using persona and also postin here if you don't mind) but i'm just gettin sooo stressed out with it all, that everything is the right time,a nd the bloody drs etc.. i'm sure it can't be good for me, mainly cos I keep eating a shed ful of choc! lol. any how, we agreed yesterday, and I must say last night was better than any since he's been back which must be good? anyhow, i'm off to wake him up now! - u know, all last week I wanted to pojke him and wake him up so I could talk to him again, (but resisted) then yesterday, I was mid dream of Gil Grissom from CSI, and DH poked me in the ear so I would talk to him....... I mean ....... How rude is that! lol, so now i'm gonna go get my own back!

well I'm coming back after lurking for months and months (I used to post as katierocket, krocket and now nasa). Still be following you all but was trying not to get too obsessed about ttc. Anyway - 9 months on I'm so fed up with it all. It's grim isn't it - and why does everyone around me in RL seem so bloody fertile?! AF arrived today - again so very fed up. NOt sure I'm oving actually as I don't get EWCM. Also, I've not used OV tests every month but when I have I've not had a postive result. Going to docs next monday -can't believe it's TTC 17 - I think when I started it was about 7 or 8...

Following a conversation with DH at 2am today... we are now officially TTC!!! So excited, but trying not to get my hopes up. Miscarriages after the first baby and before the second run in every female in my family... possible some heartache to come.

Toooooo early RudyDudy you'll get that BFP any day now!!

Oh Jed i know exactly how you feel. Remember my Dr was blunt like that too they might as well just rip your heart out and stop on it in front of you . I know what it feels like too when IVF is mentioned you just dont want to be one of those IVF people you think to yourself. BUT as my Dr put it...."you can wait and do more test after test then wait for some more OR.....You can start IVF now and have success!!!
But surely you will have to do some test b4 even being able to start ivf anyway. Sorry that it is so much money to do it there i suppose thats where we are lucky that the government funds alot of it here i know that i was under the impression that it would cost us around $7000 for the first shot at it but what i rang around i was quite supprised that it was only $2,500 and that you get most of it back from the government. I would suggest you ring around if you decide to go down this road as i have read from the ivf chat rooms that some clinics differ in prices. Try that chat room if you want i think it is www.ivfconnections.com
To be honest with you i feel more....mmmm how do i explain???? relaxed....no more like there is light at the end of the tunnel i do know that i have blocked tubes and that i proberly cant conceive naturally again but i feel like i have a chance now where as b4 i was so much in limbo not knowing what was wrong stressed me more than knowing that we are doing ivf. I know that i havent been through the disappointment yet of a failed cycle so i will proberly feel alot different Mid March if i get the BFN but i have also had that for the past year anyway its just that the bfn would have cost me this time and i would have had a month of being a looney tunes on hormones!
Sorry i am going on but i really know how you are feeling atm and it just plain old SUCKS!
How does DH feel about it? Are you in a position to do it? (if you dont mind me asking) i know that we are way too broke (with dh starting a new business) for us to pay for it but my mum and grandmother want another grandchild so badly that they have been kind enough to help out they see it as a great investment
Jed iam sorry that you are going throu this but if you would like to ask me anything i will be happy to help.
Lots of love to you.
Tania

hi everyone

Oh jedds,thats not possible to be treated like this. I am sure you can go and see someone else, a second opinion or else. and yes your GP why not? that guy you went and saw should be shot.There is no talking to people like that . can you not see someone else?

MP so happy for you. you must be over the moon!!

Munzieb - is dh gone yet already? you must have had a fabulous time with him? well hope its going to show soon?

how long should you wait to see a result? got my persona,well MIL bought it for me. she so wants a 2nd grandchild. and well, havent had a chance to use it yet. i dont know if am having a late cycle or what.still no af.funny enough this wasnt planned but an accident.ov on the 20th and we did it just 2 days earlier.

New house is nice but soooo dirty . i am having to scrub all of it.but not complaining too much though. very convenient and practical to take dd for walks in pram. just missing our little village. cockenzie is such a nice place.

anyway, any more testers??

ov on the 20th cd ~(not 20th jan) sorry. and now CD33. howlong does it take to start showing?

where is everyone today? did i make everyone run away?

no - just got my head stuck in a book. Bored out of my brain but last exam tomorrow . Glad the move went well.

Wil probably be back on later for a proper catch up!

OMG - it's a BFP (used First response!) Caved in and tested ! Reeling from shock so will post later

Jeddah - I agree with Monzie that the DR is a WAN * Is there no treatment for low sperm count as this is probably the main problem rather than your age !!!!!!! I should ask for a second oppinion as the DO differ!!!! A friend of mine 45 nearly 46 (DP same age) was told no chance of pg at 43. She has 3 miscarriages and then conceived with IVF - I guess she was lucky as she concieved on last possible IVF cycle but for god'd sake DON'T GIVE UP !!!! I was going to look into adopting a Tusami baby if I has not concieved by march and I still might anyway. Try looking at other options as well as TTC - I found this helped me !!! Is donor egg an option ?? Wahtever you do, DON'T GET DEPRESSED. i SUPPOSE I'LL HAVE TO LEAVE THE THREAD GIVEN MY NEW BUT PLEASE TALK TO ME ON OLD duffers ! I am paraniod now that I will have an early miscarriage -

Munzie, Rudy I will drop in from time to time- you have given me SOOOO much support over last few months and I have learnt so much about TTC. Feel so sick - work is a nightmare ! Thought I has a hormonal problem TBH.

hey well done you what fantastic news!!!!! take good care.LW xx

marinda - fantastic news congrats to you xx

hiya all,

cockenzie - no he's still here... hmmm, and don't i know it, the hosue is a smoke smelling tip (and also v hot as FIL has sorted my heating out, bless him!)

marinda - u lucky thing you congratulations hon! don't forget to spread the dust..... over this way! lol,

finally managed to speak to my Dr and he says that one of the gyno's has been suspended - apparently it was in the local paper - shows how much attention I pay, and basically theres nothing he can do as they've lost beds as well for patients reeled off a load of spil and basically he was as much use as tit's on a goldfish, tellin me I had to wait until may, bloody cheek, so i'll keep tryin the hospital. surely they'll get me in b4, I'm currentyl CD7 (BTW, DH recons our persona boxes are like glasses cases ..... bless him.... he had a look inside and announced to the whole world and his dog that I was 26 greenlight flashing m! and then added what's that for any how, I nearly died of embaressment, thou he won't live it down he thught it was a glasses case! lol!

hi guys i've jsut had this email from hester and she's asked I cut and paste it (honest it's not me pretending to be her!)

Munnzie, this is so kind of you! I loved reading and catching up - brilliant.
When you have time, could you bear to cut and paste this message from me?

"Hi everyone, hester here. My MN addiction has been curbed by home PC dying
(trying and trying to fix it, but nothing has worked yet) and work barring
access to the site (could it be just me, or am I surrounded by secret MNetters?
I guess I'll find out!). I miss you all and do hope to be back on-line very
soon. In the meantime, can I just say:

• CONGRATULATIONS to morningpaper and cori
• BIG HUGS AND COMMISERATIONS to yingers - I'm so very sorry this has happened to you, yings
• BIG HUGS also to jedds; I'm really upset by this, Jedds, will email you
• WAVE to marinda - I miss you and your duffers thread!
• CONGRATULATIONS to Tania for getting started on this IVF project

I am STILL off chocolate - is making me feel better physically but doing no good
to my mental health. I've still got this nausea bug that I've had on and off
since December - like having morning sickness all the time, as it's much worse
first thing and when tired - be warned, those of you who may be interpreting
nausea as a symptom!

Missing you all. Anyone who wants to CAT me to stop me getting too lonely, feel
free!"

I know you're busy, munns, so don't worry if you don't have time for this.

Am off to email jedds. Poor, poor thing.

xxx

I have a joke Rudy for u! (no offense to the rest of the blondes here, I am one, and if we don't take the mick ourselves someone else will!)

For those of you having blonde moments!

A blonde woman goes into a department store and tells the salesman she wants a pair of pink curtains.

He assures her they have a good selection of pink curtains.

He shows her many kinds of different fabrics of curtains and she finally picks out a pink floral pattern.

The salesman asks, "What size do you need?"

She says, "15 inches."

He exclaims, "15 INCHES!.......What room are they for?"

She says, "It's not for a room, it's for my computer monitor."

The surprised salesman exclaims, "Miss, computers do not need curtains."

The blonde says, "HELLooooooo.........I've got Windows!"

(((jugs))) Jeddah. Sounds like a horrid Dr. Can you ask to see a more sypathetic one - who may be more likely to sit and discuss all your options, including tests, etc. So sorry!

Rudy - tut tut! Sorry about BFN, but it is very likely to be too early yet.

munnzeib - going to teach at the prison 3 days a week (already teach 1 day at moment), and I am applying for an Advisors role there too.

Good luck jessicasmummy Welcome to the TTc thread!

nasa - about AF

marnda - congratukations! Wow - nearly missed your annoucment there. Well done!

cockensie - glad you like the new house; hope you have t all sorted soon.

Good to hear from hester

HI ALL,

just checking back with you to see those BFP's and to spread more babydust.

been watching the august board but not posting as feeling a bit nervous about my scan tommorrow! Sorry to those that are back in here after m/c and posting on the other threads too ((hugs)).
Anyway-
love to you all- esp those seeking further treatment etc (nearly got there with ds and I remember how much of a rollercoaster my brief exp was!).

G

Thanks a great spanking joke Munzie - I'm spreading babydust to all of you here .......

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