Has any one got pregnant on CD17+ and using pull out method

[Candycand388]

Hi
i ovulate on day 13 of a 28 day cycle. My 3 children were conceived on day 13 of my cycle (didn’t have sex before then or after that)

I had sex on CD17 assuming it was my “safe” day (we use natural family planning) he also pulled out. We didn’t “go again” so it’s not a case of sperm being left in the pre cum from previous ejaculation.

Today, 11 days after sex I have found out I’m pregnant. We only had sex once and on CD17 and he pulled out. I’m struggling to fathom how this happened and it’s caused an argument between us because he thinks the pull out method is foolproof and has implied I must have had sex with somebody else which I have not!

pull out method has worked for us for 4 years.

Thanks for clarifying.

Okay, then he definitely produces pre-cum that contains sperm.

there was a study done not too long ago and the result was that 30% of men naturally have a small amount of sperm in their precum (and they hadn’t ejaculated previously so it’s not like they had “leftovers” 😆

What town in Ireland is this? I'm also in Ireland and nowhere I know in this country knows what type of contraception method their neighbours or fellow community are using. Only chipping in here as just want to make it clear that rural Ireland is not like this. And I'm from there.

I think your risk was measured to be fair… but your partner is awful for suggesting what he’s suggesting.

It’s probably shock. I hope you’ll be ok

The withdrawal method is seen as sin/ immoral prevention of prevention by the catholic Church anyway. (you might as well have just used a condom as you were not following church teaching anyway by using withdrawal method but a condom would have been safer in the sense of preventing pregnancy)

The only approved Catholic method is NFP however you need to ensure a robust method and be strict with the charting/ following the rules (as opposed to a casual approach)

With a more serious method, you would have proper instruction by a qualified teacher - you would probably use a monitor eg clearblue to test urinary hormones, monitor cervical mucous and close the fertility window with temperature tracking

and ensure strict abstinence until the fertility window is closed

I agree. Bizarre post to me. Who knows what contraceptive everyone in their town uses 😆

You can if you want. Many Catholics do use it otherwise you have big families you can't afford.

Nobody ovulates on the same day, month after month. You could have easily ovulated on day 15/16 and as eggs can live up to 24 hours then sex on cd 17 would mean pregnancy is likely.

Also, just because you conceived 3 children by having sex on day 13 , it doesn't mean you ovulate then. Sperm can live for up to five days, so you could have ovulated on day 12 right through to day 17/18 to fall pregnant by sex on that day.

If you want to avoid pregnancy by using natural birth control its perfectly possible BUT it requires taking your temperature every morning, charting , tracking your cervical mucus and monitoring other fertility signs.

If you've been just relying on 'I ovulate on day 13' you've just been lucky up until now not to fall pregnant sooner.

@Candycand388
Taught by who? Certainly not schools.
I also come from a small town in Ireland and we were taught about contraception (by both parents and in school).

Ah, this is such complete rubbish!
There are lots of Irish people on MN, you really won't get away with this sort of portrayal of Ireland!
(I'm from rural Ireland in case you're wondering.)

Withdrawal method/coitus interruptus is against Catholic teaching so I don't know what Catholic teachers OP had... I'm also from a small town in rural Ireland. We were taught abstinence.

I'd imagine I'm older than OP. I can't imagine any teacher telling any students that the withdrawl method has the approval of the Catholic Church.

OP I'm sorry you've found yourself in this situation.

Bizarre to comment the small town Catholic thing - you've just painted 1950s Ireland and lumped us all into a stereotype there! People are looking after their own reproductive health in any way they like I guarantee you what you've said is not the case.

And I'm sorry to even get into this topic but you've said you've used oral sex to assist ejaculation - big no no in the Catholic church. May be time to consider your convictions if you're happy to follow some teachings and not others and now it's lead to the seriousness of a crisis pregnancy.

Did you use ovulation tests or BBT to track ovulation? If not then you don't know when you ovulated. Our bodies are not perfect and don't behave the exact same at all times. Getting older, stress, illness.. So many things effect your cycle.

I'd be having a frank conversation with your husband about how his thoughts automatically went to infidelity. You sound like you're in a long standing relationship. You take equal responsibility for contraception. You've been lucky your methods have avoided pregnancy so far in life but it's not actually a reliable method which I thought everyone knew by now.

I have read some batshit about Ireland on MN, but this is a new level.

Of course rural Irish villagers use contraception. And no we don't all discuss it with our neighbours.

Otherwise we'd still have families with 10+ kids

You both sound incredibly naive and as many have said there are lots of Irish people on MN so your ‘explanation’ isn’t washing really.

If you don’t want to get pregnant either don’t have sex or use contraception, I guarantee that’s what plenty of other people are doing, it’s just not something that people are shouting down the street.

Taught by who? I went to a covent school in rural Ireland and was still taught about contraception. I was also taught withdrawal is a not a form of contraception

I do think it's important to remember there is a woman here in a difficult relationship situation who has an unexpected pregnancy. Hope you're doing ok.

Actually yes, you are right.

OP, I am sorry for my previous post.

I hope you are OK.

There's a reason pulling out and relying on fertile phases is sometimes referred to as Vatican roulette. Because it results in quite a lot of babies.

Your partners naive thinking that the pull out method is fool proof.

That's why catholic families are so big, it's not reliable!

What will you do about the pregnancy? Are you able to consider options or will you just proceed with the pregnancy and hope he realises that it's his baby and loves and accepts him/her?

Hope you are getting advice and support Candycand.

But this man of yours really needs to be educated. You can Google lots of articles about pull out method NOT being foolproof, and that precum often does contain viable sperm and result in pregnancy. And about said method not being approved by the Catholic Church- because it means having sex for pleasure. And oral sex - that is an abomination of course.

I mean, I am all in favour of sex for pleasure and fun, and oral sex if you fancy it- and so so glad I am not a Catholic.

Hope it all works out for you.

I never ovulated til day 17-21 for most of my tracking/conceiving years…so of course, unless you are actively tracking ovulation every day according to your body temperature/ mucous etc then it’s highly likely you ovulated later than your “ norm”….nobody has a bombproof cycle where they only ovulate on the same day every cycle for all their fertile years….age ,illness, stress will all impact our cycles.

Some people are so oddly judgemental rather than just responding to the actual questions asked.

The withdrawal method isn't completely reliable + ovulation date can vary monthly, despite any previous consistency. So yes, others will absolutely have got pregnant in the same circumstances. This is the only information required, how does lecturing help?

Good luck OP.

So, theologically illiterate, biologically illiterate, and your husband is pretty vile. Oh, and you appear to have dropped down a worm hole from the 1950s. What a strange post

@SlenderRations the strange post is yours. Any reason to be so rude to a stranger on the internet? I suggest getting a grip.

what a bully, was this necessary? Is your comment going to help her out? No…? Thought so. Next time keep scrolling instead.

hopefully your children don’t come out as nasty and mean as you are