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esb27 · 25/01/2024 20:55

Hi guys,

Found out I was pregnant a couple of weeks ago, very faint lines on the tests but they were there (they were also progressing nicely). Had a scan at my EPU as I have a history of ectopics so have to go in early, by my period dates I was 5 weeks but as I ovulated on day 21 I knew I was more like 4 weeks.

They saw some fluid and what looked like a gestational sac, HCG went from 190 to 345 in 46 hours (they only want a 66% rise so that was good news - I haven't had any further blood tests).

long story but I then went in for another early scan but with Tommy's in London a week later, they again saw a small sac, nothing in it and by the measurements dated me 5 weeks (which roughly goes with my dates) - both Tommy's and my EPU said it was too early to really say if this is viable or potentially a missed miscarriage (which I have had before) so I had to wait and see.

I went back to my EPU today (one day after the Tommy's scan and on week after the last EPU scan) and obviously they saw the same thing as Tommy's but this time they could compare to last week. The doctor didn't give me much (he didn't give me measurements or anything annoyingly)as it's still SO early but he said there was 'some growth' when you compare the sacs over the week but not as much as they usually expect.

Got another scan with my EPU next Tuesday this time with the consultant there (I also have one with Tommy's on 7th Feb), I'm so nervous this is going down the miscarriage route again as it's not growing fast enough. At least by next week I will be towards the end of 5 weeks if not 6 weeks so really we should be seeing a yoke sac at least and if it's not there we should get answers.

Has anyone been in a similar situation, whether it was a bad or good outcome? I really want this to be it but my history is so crappy. The waiting is killing me - wish I was normal and didn't have early scans as they just confuse and worry me but I know I have to have them.

Am trying to be hopeful but it is so hard😭

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Outliers · 25/01/2024 21:32

Atm it does sound possible that everything could be fine. Unless I'm misunderstanding

NotAnysmore · 25/01/2024 21:36

Hi OP.

I had a sac that didn't grown from 5 weeks to 7 weeks.

Still a heartbeat at 7 weeks but wasn't at the following scan. 😓

Sorry to not have a happier story for you, but wanted to be honest and of course your situation could be different and really hope it is.

If it's any consolidation I did conceive again shortly after and that pregnancy was fine - if you've not had your thyroid checked though do so. As we TTC for a year with no luck, then I started thyroid meds and had that MC pregnancy - then shortly after a successful pregnancy.

So I do wonder if with that one it was due to my thyroid levels being better but not quite good enough?

Absolutely no medical proof of that though. X

Sparklingplease · 25/01/2024 22:10

I had a fairly similar experience. Went to EPU at 6 weeks, and they saw a sac with nothing in it. They said they’d normally expect to see more by that time, and sent me away for two weeks to ‘wait and see’ …and then at 8 weeks they saw a perfectly normal pregnancy.

Having had multiple healthy pregnancies since then, experience has taught me that embryos/foetuses just grow at their own pace, and have random growth spurts and slow growth spells just like bigger children do. Remember that the expected sizes by weeks etc are averages and that some are naturally outliers.

Wishing you all the very best x

esb27 · 26/01/2024 07:58

@Outliers oh of course, it could be okay which I’m praying for but I just wanted to see if anyone had any experiences with this (good or bad) as it always feels quite lonely when you’re going through it

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esb27 · 26/01/2024 08:07

@NotAnysmore ahh sorry you went through that ☹️ I’ve never ever heard a heartbeat so I can’t imagine the pain of it stopping.

Am very glad you had a successful pregnancy after that though (and after finding the thyroid issue). I’ve had my thyroid checked so it won’t be that, had quite a few things checked. My doctor does think I might have a sub-septate though which could cause issues so I’ll get that sorted if this doesn’t work out.

Thanks for sharing your story, I need to be realistic so it’s important to hear the good and the bad x

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esb27 · 26/01/2024 08:13

@Sparklingplease ahh that’s good to know! So interestingly Tommy’s have sent me away for 2 weeks but my EPU want me back next week so I am worried it will still be early.

did you get more HcG tested in that break to make sure your levels were rising? I had a missed miscarriage a few years ago, went in at ‘6 weeks’ but there was nothing inside, I was worried I shouldn’t have been turned away however, my levels dropped by 500 in 48 hours which is why the medical management decision was made.

thank you so much for sharing your story, and it’s nice to hear a positive story from it! X

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Sparklingplease · 26/01/2024 13:00

No they didn’t do any tests at all during that two weeks. I remember it being very nerve wracking. But a positive outcome, so you certainly shouldn’t give up hope yet. I really hope it all works out well for you this time x

babyonwayx · 26/01/2024 14:03

I went thinking I was 6 weeks (same gestation as seeing my DS HB) but on the scan was measuring 5 weeks and just a sac.

Went back exactly a week later and was showing 5+5 and a faint HB. Thought it was doomed because it was exactly a week later like I expected.

Went back at 7 weeks and was measuring 8 weeks with a strong HB and my dates all matched up.

Now 23 weeks today!

Sending positive vibes & keeping figures crossed. Sounds very similar to just being so early 🙏🏼🤞🏻

esb27 · 26/01/2024 14:47

Sparklingplease · 26/01/2024 13:00

No they didn’t do any tests at all during that two weeks. I remember it being very nerve wracking. But a positive outcome, so you certainly shouldn’t give up hope yet. I really hope it all works out well for you this time x

Ahh okay. Thank you!!!!! x

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esb27 · 26/01/2024 14:48

babyonwayx · 26/01/2024 14:03

I went thinking I was 6 weeks (same gestation as seeing my DS HB) but on the scan was measuring 5 weeks and just a sac.

Went back exactly a week later and was showing 5+5 and a faint HB. Thought it was doomed because it was exactly a week later like I expected.

Went back at 7 weeks and was measuring 8 weeks with a strong HB and my dates all matched up.

Now 23 weeks today!

Sending positive vibes & keeping figures crossed. Sounds very similar to just being so early 🙏🏼🤞🏻

This is a lovely positive story! Congratulations, so glad it all worked out :)
Thank you for sharing and the well wishes, really hope my situ ends up like yours!! x

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esb27 · 30/01/2024 16:32

Just to update everyone, had my 6 week scan today and still nothing inside it. The sac had grown though and was measuring 12x9x7mm (9.3mm mean) - last week at 5weeks 1 day it was 4.7x3.7x4.7mm with a 4.4mm mean). My doctor said she didn't want to give me false hope but it's looking likely to not progress but am going back next Tuesday to see if it is another miscarriage or if something magically appears.

They've provisionally booked me for a d&c for next Friday as we want to genetically test the remains this time. But i'm going into overdrive reading positive (and negative) stories of people not seeing a yolk sac or baby until 8 weeks so wondering if I should wait another week on top of that for the d&c - raaaghhh this journey is so hard!!

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esb27 · 07/02/2024 17:19

esb27 · 30/01/2024 16:32

Just to update everyone, had my 6 week scan today and still nothing inside it. The sac had grown though and was measuring 12x9x7mm (9.3mm mean) - last week at 5weeks 1 day it was 4.7x3.7x4.7mm with a 4.4mm mean). My doctor said she didn't want to give me false hope but it's looking likely to not progress but am going back next Tuesday to see if it is another miscarriage or if something magically appears.

They've provisionally booked me for a d&c for next Friday as we want to genetically test the remains this time. But i'm going into overdrive reading positive (and negative) stories of people not seeing a yolk sac or baby until 8 weeks so wondering if I should wait another week on top of that for the d&c - raaaghhh this journey is so hard!!

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Just updating one last time in case anyone else is in this situation and they find this thread but they can't see what happened in the end. Sac growth has slowed right down, and still nothing in it. It measured 6 weeks but should have been 7 with a yoke sac by now. Have a d&c booked for two days. It wasn't my time, yet again :(

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Outliers · 07/02/2024 18:16

My condolences, very sorry things didn't progress this time.

Wish you strength in the coming days/weeks. I hope next time you're ready to try, it's completely smooth sailing.

esb27 · 07/02/2024 21:21

Outliers · 07/02/2024 18:16

My condolences, very sorry things didn't progress this time.

Wish you strength in the coming days/weeks. I hope next time you're ready to try, it's completely smooth sailing.

Thanks so much!

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