What IVF dose and how many eggs did you get?

[Hyppyb]

Hey,

It's my second cycle if ivf, I'm on Bemfola 225 iu and it's day 4 of my cycle. Last time I was on Gonal F 150iu. Was wondering if it will produce more eggs now.

Just wanted to ask anyones dosage, the name of their ivf medication and the egg result, home many were retrieved?

@Hyppyb how are you feeling? Are your levels finally at zero and your starting to feel normal again?
Ill be having 225 Bemfola same as last time. They did start me on 175 but cancelled first collection at scan day 12 as the follicles weren’t where they should be. The 225 worked well, I’m hoping it will work just as well this time around. Periods due to start Monday so providing it does I’ll be starting meds on Tuesday.
Im happy with twins, that’s always been my dream, my partner not so much lol 😂
Have you been given any further feedback as to your next appointment etc? X

@SH998 That's great. That's exactly the medication and dosage I had and got 8 mature eggs collected. Bemfola is a cheaper drug but worked a lot better than the more expensive drug I was on. Are you excited? Hope you get some good results. Youre having a fresh transfer? Did you have any bloating after your egg collection last time?

I had a watch on YouTube and many videos said transferring one embryo rather than two embryo you're more successful. So it's definitely something you should weigh up.

My HCG is 25. It needs to be 10 to be discharged from the hospital. I'm still bleeding and still having bouts of pain. I won't contact the ivf clinic until I start my period and that I estimate will be early March so got a long time until then. Need to have a follow up scan and then nurse consultation. Still looks on track to have a frozen transfer end of March.

@Hyppyb I was on Gonal F 175iu to begin with which didn't sustain the follicles as they should, once the meds were changed it worked a charm :)
Injections started last night so providing all goes to plan collection should be on 21st February. I feel a lot calmer this time around. I know what to expect this time so that's something less to wonder, also home life is much better and work is less stressful. I am excited but also trying not to think about it so much, I'm actually sleeping at night, whereas the last time I was constantly stressing and only managing about 3/4 hours sleep a night, the lack of sleep really played havoc with my body. I was fine on the injections last time, no bloating or side effects so hopefully ill be lucky again. The injections don't even hurt this time around lol :)
We have made the decision that 2 will go back this time if we have them, as I didn't react well to the frozen transfer I cant help feeling I wasted the last one so I'm not doing that again.
I cant believe your still bleeding and in some pain, it shows how much your poor body has been put through. Take a few weeks out to relax and get your body healthy again, although I know how difficult it is just waiting for the time to pass until you can try again x

@SH998 My first cycle was Gonal F 150iu. It wasn't a good experience. They could only get half because of not being able to access my left ovary due to a fibroid and the ones they got weren't good. Bemfola was better for me, the eggs were bigger quicker and more grew. Hope thats your experience.

I found my second time injections so easy. 21st, that's soon, hope it goes well. Sleeping is definitely a good thing. Will be interesting to hear how transferring the two embryos go. If you have top graded embryos if you end up with twins, could happen with a mismatch too. Two over 3Bb you may be having twins for Xmas. If one is top graded and one includes a CB, BC or CC then the chances are a lot lower but not impossible. Once you get that positive result its like a 70% chance of a healthy pregnancy, its hard when your in that 30% or 2% with etopic pregnancies.

Yep still bleeding, coming up 9 weeks, 7 weeks from methotrexate injection. Still low key pain in my hip, I did have a bout of pain in the week but now if I take painkillers the pain goes. Before the pain was really bad heard people say it's pretty much the contractions of childbirth. Last week my hcg was 25, today I'm going to test but if it's not under 10 I won't be going back as I really want to move on. Plus I can take a pregnancy test at home if I'm still bleeding in a week.

I can't wait to try again. Yes the fears are still there but thats human. The medicated frozen transfer in August really messed with my hormones, the eostrogen, but I've had worst. Hoping I start treatment with my second period post hcg at 0. My first period I'm guessing will be early March.

I'm newly 40, my embryos are 39, so really hoping my baby is one of them.

@Hyppyb how are you feeling, hoping all is back to normal and you can start to look forward to your next cycle. I had my first scan today, I don't think it went particularly well.
Today is day 9 of my cycle, day 8 of meds and also my first scan day. Results were 8 follicles measuring between 10 and 18, with a further 2 showing under 10. Measurements were:
2 at 18
1 at 15
1 at 13
1 at 12
1 at 11
2 at 10
A further 2 under 10.
At this stage on my last cycle I was showing approx. 14 follicles but I'm pretty sure they weren't as mature as they are now at this stage. I have another scan on Friday but I have that feeling the cycle will be cancelled (the nurse was lovely but didn't seem that optimistic although she didn't say as much). She did say my last count was better and that there is still time for the smaller ones to catch up.
I expected my body to react pretty much the same as last time but it hasn't so now I'm frantically googling all sorts (this is something I promised myself I wouldn't do this time around) :(
Do you mind me asking what your day 8 scan count and size were? Did the count remain the same on collection day, if so, how many were retrieved, fertilised, made it to blastocyst etc? I've been so clam until now but after this mornings scan I'm back to being a mental woman frantically googling everything I can x

@SH998 Hey, day 9, wow youre almost there. Reading your follicle sizes and the day of your cycle I feel like you have ok results. I don't understand why your clinic would want to cancel. Is that there policy? There are still days for your eggs to mature. Its 2mm on average a day they can grow even bigger. My scans started earlier, day 5, day 7 and day 10. I will try to upload the sizes, ignore the top of the page that says the cycle day as in the app i put my period was the day I started bleeding oppose to when I was in full flow and full flow is day 1 according to the clinic.

I guess you can compare my day 10 to your day 9 but decrease it by 2mm according to how big they grow. Ideally they want 18mm to 23mm at the last scan but as you can see my last scan day 10 I only had 4 follicles that fell into that size range and at egg collection they got 8 mature ones. My prior cycle they got 2 mature follicles at 14mm of the last scan. So it is possible. You definitely have 5 potential mature eggs there. Again I don't understand why the clinic would cancel it.

As you know it only takes one egg. Try to be positive.... go with your gut. If you don't want to cancel I read they have to listen to you.

I'm OK. Had my last hcg test was 16, got discharged. So I should ovulate soon. I'm spotting now. I realised depending on how my period falls I could try to conceive next month, the end of March as my injection was in December so that was a nice realisation. How soon.

@SH998 so 8 were collected and classed as mature eggs, 6 fertilised, usually its 90 to 80%, day 3 I had 5 that were grade 1 8 cell embryos and 1 grade 2, day 5 I had 3 blastocyst and day 6 1 blastocyst so 2 were deemed not good.

@SH998 how did you get on? Did you have the egg collection and transfer?

@Hyppyb morning, how are you feeling? I'm hoping your all healed and healthy :)
We did have collection and transfer was on Saturday. We had really good results from the collection and decided to place 2 back in with 3 left to freeze. I'm now in the TTW and panicking and googling everything which as you would know will not be helping my frame of mind lol.

@SH998 wow you did have really good results! That's amazing news! See I told you!

What was your count? How many retrieved? Fertilised? Made day 5 or 6? What were your grades?

Two week wait is not fun...some people start testing 4 days post 5 day transfer. If you're pregnant with twins more hcg! Mine was negative 4 days post but the line of the 4 days test got darker a couple days later. I got my positive 6 days post but I knew it was a true positive because it was getting darker. A fresh you have to be careful because of the trigger shot hcg in your urine.

I'm OK. Today is 12 weeks bleeding. Its very light so soon over. Then will wait until my first period, then will call to have a scan, then nurse consultation, then second period, that cycle have my transfer.

@Hyppyb thanks you, we were really pleased with the outcome, I so wasn't expected the results we got. From my experience less follicles shows better quality, however, everyone is different :)

We went in with 8 follicles showing on the scan, all 8 were collected , all 8 fertilised and all 8 made it to day 3. We managed to get 5 to blastocyst which i was gobsmacked by.

As for grades for some reason my clinic never ever gives us the grades when after I question them, all I know is that the previous 2 transferred were both B's, one was hatching and one slightly behind. This time they said the 3 to be frozen were on par with the previous 2. The 2 we implanted were really good quality (that's all I got from them).

I done just that! Stupidly tested tested day 4 (yesterday) which was negative and I broke my heart all night, I've now convinced myself I'm out of the game this time. I've had no symptoms apart from a few little niggles the day after the transfer. Absolutely nothing since then. I really cant remember what symptoms I had from my last positive apart from I had very little symptoms.
Did you have early symptoms? If so what days? Pregnancy tests positive days etc?

Wow, still bleeding 12 weeks later, your poor body has really gone through the mill hasn't it. How are you feeling emotionally, it must be so hard to move forward still dealing with your loss. I really hope you move on with this and can look forward to your next transfer - I'm not sure I used the correct words there, 'look forward', I'm not sure anyone looks forward to the next transfer as the fear and stress sets in pretty much as soon as the transfer is complete.

Hello just started looking into IVF and wondered if, in England, they would put more than one egg back in, as I saw on a tv programme that they only put one egg back in a cycle. Are there pros/cons to having say 2 put in, as hopefully double chances?

Guidelines ant my clinic are to give you the option of putting more than on embryo in if you’re older, but I can’t remember the age exactly, and it’s your very last cycle.

@Sunshine2243 hi and welcome :)
I was offered a transfer of 2 but I think that was due to my age (39), they don’t normally recommend more than 1 but I also think different health boards advise different things to different people x

@Sunshine2243 I think I read on the nhs website page on ivf what everyone else has already said, if youre older so 35 plus they would allow you to transfer 2 embryos as the idea is older women have more abnormal embryos so the likelihood is only one will be successful. Younger women are advised to transfer one at a time but I know someone who at 29 had ivf and transferred 2 and had twin boys.

@SH998 I am so chuffed for you. You're in a really good position. It's just nice to have back up of other embryos, I found that really stopped me from being tense through the transfer and after.

Some of your results are above average like mature eggs the average is 90% will fertilise, all yours did and all 8 making it to day 3. You go 5 blasts, I said you should get 5 from your scans.

I'm surprised your clinic doesn't give you the grades. I feel like they're being paid a lot of money and should be transparent. What their definition of high quality might not be the same as their patients or another clinic. I get a written report with the gradings at each step. Mine rang me at day 3 telling me the grades. Saying all that yours are clearly 3CC or above. CC is the lowest grade they should be transferring embryos in to your body. I read someone say they had C grading and was told by their clinic it was high quality when I've read everywhere C is poor quality.

So I woke up everyday at 4am needing to pee but I did that every 2ww. 😄The way I knew I was pregnant was day 2 and 3 post transfer I had cramping, implantation cramping but not everyone gets that. I had no other symptoms. I had more symptoms when I was negative prior. Day 4 post transfer mine was negative so don't worry many women get those results and just use it now to see your trigger is out of your system. I got a positive on day 6 and it was darker day 7 and I was like I'm soooo pregnant. So youre not out the game at all. 14 days after is out the game. The only pregnancy test I rely on is First Response the cheapies strip early on are rubbish.

I've stopped bleeding! Quite poetic. All of the winter I bled 3 months and spring I stopped. I've seen signs of ovulation so that's good. My body did go through a lot. I honestly don't want to go through that again. 12 weeks is a long time.

I am feeling positive. Next month I should be having a transfer with my 3BB embryo. Just going to chill for now as my body gets back to normal with ovulating and periods.

@Hyppyb I'm back to square one - BFN. I'm on a right downer right now :(
Have you been given a transfer date yet? I bet you cant wait to start again, its certainly been a long 3 months for you hasnt it x

@SH998 I'm sorry. A negative when you're trying is always hard. They would say wait the whole 14 days to be sure and test then. I think youre 9 days now? It still could be positive. I do know how you feel, if it's not positive by 7 days then most women write it off. At least you have you embies or embabies. One of those could be the one. Can you try again soon? Like period after next?

So I haven't contacted the clinic yet because I plan on waiting to make sure my body is fully healed by waiting until my second cycle, so 2 periods from miscarriage to have the transfer. I'm waiting until my first period then I will call the clinic for a follow up scan. Yesterday i had wind pain in my left hip, nothing bad but that's the early symptom i had with my etopic pregnancy. So don't want to go too soon and they say there's a problem. I only stopped having pain around 3 weeks ago.

If my period goes back to normal time wise then I should be having a transfer mid April.

@SH998 hey, how was the last week of your two week wait? Was is negative? If so have you spoken to your clinic?

So today my first period properly started. I called my clinic and have arrange a baseline scan on the 28th will have a follow up consultation on the 30th and if all good, a treatment consultation to talk meds and then a frozen transfer next cycle.

@Hyppyb how are you feeling? I bet it feels good to have a little normality back to you life :) I bet you've never been so glad to see a period in your life lol, that's great news and not long a wait until the end of the month either.
How you feeling mentally about it all?
I have follow up bloods this week with a consultant appointment in a few weeks to discuss, no actually transfer date ahs been given yet.

@SH998 wonder why your clinic are doing follow up blood tests. A follow up with your doctor will be interesting. When mine failed before I got pregnant they were like chromosomal issues with the embryo that's it. It's like there go to. Where you had two embryos if I was you I would push to know the gradings of all the embryos. Like what are they classing as good quality. If its the lowest 4CC then you had 30% to 40% chance per embro. Still pretty good and better than natural conception.

If all goes well I will have my transfer next cycle that works out like 6 weeks from the end of my miscarriage bleeding. So pretty soon. I feel bad and bit scared, I don't want to go through another etopic pregnancy it's life threatening and the recovery is long. But then I hear trying to conceive within 3 months of a miscarriage you're more likely to be successful and I don't want to wait around doing nothing.

A friend said I should wait to feel better but I feel like if I wait I'm never going to feel the version of better she's referring to. 3 months bleeding was a long time I came to terms with what happened during it. I remember the 3 weeks of being pregnant and it feeling great and I think that is overriding everything.

I don't know how much i believe in the emotional state stopping pregnancy. If its stress stopping ovulation yes I get that but if you're having regular cycles, not getting pregnant, people are like it must be your emotions or mind, that doesn't explain why women conceive under traumatic experiences or more are likely straight after a miscarriage than waiting. I think human fertility (unlike many other animals) isn't the best, so many factors involved so I'm not going to let how I feel stop me or wait until I feel "better".

So next Tuesday I'm hoping my scan goes well. Then another transfer it's my 3rd but my 2 blastocyst. Should be the 3BB.

@Hyppyb I pushed for further bloods in the hope that something small but treatable will be picked up. They have also agreed to up progesterone and also add blood thinners into the mix if he feels this needs to happen. I didn't want to continue again on the same basis as before in fear ill lose the 3 embryos we have. Ill be asking of gradings when I have a follow up, he didn't have this to hand but said he had spoken to the embryologist before our call and they said all 3 were really good quality. Do you mind me asking what has the grades been on all yours?
I don't think we will ever be ready to go again as the worry and uncertainty of IVF never leaves you, whether your pregnant or not. You have to proceed when your ready and only you know when that is. I personally want to go again as soon as my body is capable, my head will never be ready lol.
As for 'emotional state stopping pregnancy', when I got pregnant, I was in a hell of a mess, between the stress of the IVF, unsupportive partner and generally just being in a bad place myself we managed it, yet the last transfer when we were both far more happier and stress-free it didn't work, that was a complete killer to me because if it was going to work it should have been that time! I think once your body is ready it will happen regardless of your frame of mind.
I'm so pleased you have finally got here, its been a long road but I'm sure this will be your time :) x

@SH998 hopefully when you speak to the consultant they're helpful. General blood tests I had was only for TSH and STDs. The main expensive clinic they took loads of bloods through IUIs and one IVF to check my hormones that they showed I was ready for the treatment and i never got pregnant but my last ivf was with their cheaper sister clinic who did no blood tests and I got pregnant! 🤣My prior treatments I was careful of my diet didn't get pregnant whilst last time I accidently drank coffee seconds after the transfer and got pregnant. 🤣

When I had the transfer when I didn't get pregnant they had me take 1 asprin at night to help with implantation. Then the eostrgen pills 3 times a day and progesterone 3 times a day and that was unsuccessful but I think that was the embryo that was only a day 3 probably arrested soon after. So yeah hopefully there is something that can help you.

I would recommend you subscribe to Infertility TV, on YouTube, short simple fun videos on all of this and they look at studies and comparisons. They look at embryos, your womb, embryo gradings, diet, etc

My blastocyst were 4BB (got pregnant) then 3BB, 4CB and 4CB.

When I first started trying I was positive and believed I'd get pregnant and I didn't, usually the more you try the more disheartened you get. So I'm not really going to get hung up on my emotional state. I don't have the time. If I was 25 then yes can take a long emotional break.

I'm still with the sister clinic. They changed their terms recently 37 and under changed to 39 and under, just before my 40th birthday they let me have a round and that's when I got pregnant. Crazy. This fertility stuff isn't straight forward.

@Hyppyb the bloods I had done this time were completely different from the initial STD, hormones checks. I've had to google them all as they mean nothing to me lol, blood works were for co-agulation, lupus, anti cardio lipids, anti B12, factor V, pro-thrombin. I'm hoping something little and easily treatable shows up, ill better doin the next transfer having taken slightly different steps. My follow up call to discuss results is 12th April.
Also, I've spoken to the embryologist and said the frozen's were all 5 day blastocysts grading at 5B, 4B and 3B. She said they were good quality.
I've learnt over the last few months that IVF has a mind of its own, one cycle will completely vary from another, body reacts differently etc. When you've done everything correct and are adamant its worked/should work and then it doesn't, its a kick in the teeth.
I bet your counting down the days until your scan date, the wait is an absolute killer. Please make sure you keep me updated, I have everything crossed for you :) x

@SH998 Grade B's are really good. 😊 The majority of pregnancies are embryos that were graded as B. Grades A are classed as excellent but the percentage of embryos graded as such is a lot less. Some embryologist see Grades A as perfection so grade them rarely. So you should feel good that you have some good embabies there. Two of my embryos are classed as poor quality so I was a bit down about it but there's still a 33% chance of pregnancy, also grading is subjective, also a grade C may turn into a grade A in the womb.

If there is something stopping you from implanting I hope it's found. Although you have got pregnant before so that's really positive and implantation is the hardest part of conception, there's like a 50 to 70% chance of implantation not happening. Usually 70%.Yeah when you've been so careful it is so very annoying, we've just got to keep trying. 12th April isn't far. Will be about the time I start my meds for my transfer.

I feel partially excited that I'm trying again and could get pregnant with my rainbow baby but then of course I'm like I dont want to go through another 14 weeks pregnancy loss, technically I was pregnant for over 4 months that's how long the hcg was present. Makes me think the baby was strong but implantation was in the wrong place. I know I will be monitored by the nhs ASAP if I get pregnant. Still hard though. In the pit of my stomach but the thing that gets me through it is InfertilityTV said 69% of women who tried to conceive within 3 months of a miscarriage conceived and that was significantly higher than those who waited. His advice is try to conceive once you get your period and that's what I'm doing.

So yeah my scan should go OK. I'm going on the day I'm ovulating coincidentally. It's on Tuesday and then a consultation on Thursday. I would have thought if there were any problems I'd find out at the scan.

Will share how I get on.