2WW

[ANP2020]

Hello ladies!

I’ve been reading these threads (at all hours clearly!) I just wondered if anyone was currently in their 2WW and wanted to join me? It’s so long!! I’m ttc number 2, have a 4 year old son, fell first time with him luckily so certainly not expecting the same this time round. This is our first cycle. I’m only using an app not any ovulation sticks so not sure how many days po I am, but According to app fertile window ended yesterday. AF due 21st I only have 24/25 day cycles since coming off my pill.

Anywhoo no symptoms yet as too early! I’ve had ovulation cramps and a few nights of very intense dreams. I think the only symptoms I can remember pre bfp with my son was really really sore boobs, couldn’t bare a bra on!! And really tired.

Please people join me to symptom spot and keep each other company during the 2WW.

@Annapolis35 thanks for that about pulse that’s interesting! I’ll have a go with that next cycle!

yeah I’m about 6dpo roughly I think but probably didn’t even ovulate anyway we’ll find out when that blood test comes back!

ahh maybe it was a sign but more than likely one of those random things my body does when I’m ttc that means nothing! It seems to enjoy to throw a new symptom at me every month I try that is completely unrelated but brings in false hope so I’ll just sit tight! X

How’s everyone? Any symptoms! I’ve been very tired today, went back to bed after dropping son at school and slept for ages! But I’ve been pulling a lot of overtime so it might’ve just caught up! I’ve been having lower back pain like right at the bottom.

that’s it really no sore boobs at all. Had some slightly string yellow cm a lot more than usual but I do get a small amount every month so that’s not new.

so nothing really standing out that a bfp might be on the cards. AF due Sunday x

Hi @ANP2020 doing well thanks and you? I am 9dpo now and I feel really positive about this cycle and calm. My boobs have been hurting, but that is not unusual so I can’t really take that as a symptom but nothing else really.

My AF is due Saturday so let’s see how it goes. I have been called for a colposcopy on Friday because of abnormal cells in smear test (which in an alarmingly fast call for a hospital visit!), and I sort of think I should probably test before it as I think they’ll probably ask. But I’m not sure and it goes against my no early testing rule

@Annapolis35 sounds like Your in a good space! I’m just not going to test fully expect AF to arrive in all her glory On Sunday So I’ll just wait.
i am going out for bottomless brunch on Monday so if for som reason it’s not here by Monday I’ll have to test I suppose! Just still not really up for seeing a bright white test!

sorry to Hear about the abnormal cells! I’m sure all will be ok! I think you should test before, I bet they’ll ask if there’s any chance you could be pregnant before they perform it.

it’s much less painful having AF arrive than having those blank tests. And at least bottomless brunch might cheer you up but I have my fingers crossed AF doesn’t arrive! I will test on Friday, as you’re right and they will probably ask and it might effect the exam but I am not looking forward to it! I hate early testing as it’s so disappointing

Hey everyone,
Just catching up. Had such a busy month.
I'm a few days away from AF now - due Friday.
No boob pain at all this month yet which is unusual, but starting to get rumblings of period like pains in my tummy so I'm guessing AF is on her way.
I'm completely exhausted though but have been very busy.

@Annapolis35 so sorry to hear you had abnormal smear. I hope the test goes well on Friday and there isn't anything serious going on. I know a few people who have had them and all were okay so fingers crossed it is the same for you.

@ANP2020 enjoy your bottomless brunch.
I went out on Saturday to one - far too early to test. I don't drink often but I figured the chances of being pregnant are so slim that I would just enjoy myself and not worry about it despite being in my 2WW.

I'm out of tests after using my last one before I went to the spa last month, and decided I'm not going buy any more unless AF is 5 days late. I was so upset when I had the chemical, I don't think I can go through that again.

Hey girls.

How are you all doing?

@Annapolis35 sorry to hear about the abnormal results, I'm sure all will be ok on Friday but I definitely think testing before the test on Friday is a good idea even though it goes against what you normally do with no early testing.

@pinkpirliereally keeping fingers crossed for you that AF doesn't arrive and what you're feeling is the start of getting your positive 🤞🏻

@ANP2020 keeping fingers crossed for you also 🤞🏻 really want one of us to get our positive soon to have some good hope for the rest of us!

Think my ovulation was yesterday, I had peak ovulation test Monday late afternoon but temp didn't rise this morning like it normally would so assuming I ovulated yesterday but temp will just rise tomorrow 🤞🏻I have finally managed to hear back from my doctors after waiting for a phone call for 2 and half weeks, they phoned yesterday at 4pm....went over everything with her on the phone and have managed to book in Day 21 bloods to be done Monday morning next week and Day 1-4 bloods to be done Wednesday 2nd November so can check hormones. I've got to drop in my paperwork to my surgery later for my private pelvic scan I had and my husbands SA results too. My doctor is then referring us to a fertility clinic. I am assuming that is who we will deal with once our blood results are back? I don't really know what they do/when they do/what happens next and how soon either? 🤯 any one know?

@Shaker21 good luck to you this month too.

I was referred this time last year to the fertility clinic, and saw the consultant in December. They referred me for several tests, all were normal. I was picked up for a quick appointment due to being 38 (then).

I need to get my BMI down before I am eligible for any treatment but I haven't been called back yet for anything else.

My weight hasn't changed as I just can't seem to have any consistent weight loss. I got down to needing to lose another 5kg but since then have put back on over 10kg. So it is now looking impossible to achieve before I'm 40.

I only had the 1-4 bloods, I didn't have any others taken.

@pinkpirlie I sound like I'm in a similar boat then...I feel like once the bloods are done and if I get any appointment then it will be mentioned about my weight. I'm not eligible for IVF on the NHS because of my BMI so will have to then carry on trying naturally or if there is anything that comes back hormonal wise that they can give me anything for to help I guess 🤷‍♀️

Lovely ladies

@pinkpirlie Going for bottomless brunch is a very good idea. No point putting your life on hold and taking the joy out of life! I’m same as you, think I would rather not know about a chemical as it seems too heartbreaking. Fingers crossed good things are happening!

@Shaker21 I’m glad you have got in for bloods, must be a relief and I hope all goes well. We are going to call gp if had no luck in next couple of months, might call once I return from my holiday.

Yeah I will definitely test on Friday morning, as they will certainly ask and I’d rather take a test at home than in the hospital. I am hoping all will be fine on Friday, and it’s better if there are problems they get assessed. I can’t even remember the last time I had a smear, everything was put on hold because of Covid.

@Annapolis35

COVID led to so many delays. I was so lucky and had one in April 2020. It was before they wrote to me. They queried it when I was there, but I was only a couple of months early so they agreed to do it anyway. Luckily it was all clear but it took months and months to get the results.

The pain of the chemical was just so much. I don't think I have cried so much in forever. I just felt so utterly heart broken. I don't think I expected to feel quite so broken but it did become easier in a few days as I just let myself fall apart and grieve, but I really don't want to feel like that again anytime soon.

@Shaker21
I'm the same, my BMI is about 33. So well above the requirement. I blame my partner, he's a massive feeder, I was slim with a BMI of 23 before I met him.
I need to lose the weight for more than just conception, so I really need to sort it out and fast.

@ANP2020 well got a BFN this AM on a frer, I’d started to get my hopes up so it is disappointing.

I understand about the chemical, the miscarriage was one of the hardest things I’ve ever gone through. It feels so tough now as we haven’t caught again since. Just had a little cry over it all

next month we are going to Thailand so I won’t be tracking or anything and it’ll be nice to have some head space from it all.

Oh @Annapolis35 im sorry that really does suck! I don’t blame you for having a little cry! Seeing a negative test is worse than seeing AF! We’re all waiting so patiently it’s got to happen for one of us soon! I hope today goes ok!

guys I was really getting my hopes up! Since that pink cm the other day, Tuesday I was exhausted and slept the whole day which was my day off! Then Tues/ Weds had nausea and reflux symptoms which I never get! Then At work yesterday started with a sore throat which I’ve read happens to a lot of ppl before bfp so I was so convinced hopes high! Then last night started to feel really unwell, checked throat in the mirror and tonsils covered in white spots! So I’m just sat waiting to go into the GP so I’ve just got a bad case of tonsillitis and not pregnancy related at all! So fully expecting AF on Sunday. I haven’t tested early but did an OPK this am which I’ve read if they’re high indicate pregnancy and it wasn’t high so think I’m out!

@Shaker21 and @pinkpirlie im with you on BMI I’m pretty sure that’s why I’m not ovulating as my weight is so high! I’ve lost 1stone 8 pounds so far but really need to lose more! But it’s so hard! I’ll hopefully have my fertility appt in April due to the long wait and the last thing I want them to say is we can’t treat you because of BMI.

has anyone ever gone private with fertility? I’ve googled and can see lots of IVF and IUI but can’t see any that would maybe prescribe clomid x

Hi all

@Annapolis35 so sorry for your BFN. Thailand will be a welcome break, and perhaps what you need to reset. The pain of not catching every month is real, especially after a loss. I'm with you, and thinking of you.

@ANP2020 I haven't gone private, we couldn't afford it right now. But we are remortgaging in March, and are borrowing a bit extra which would fund IVF abroad a few times. I have a friend who is from a country where it's much cheaper and she was successful there after two NHS rounds that failed. So that's our backup.
Over a stone weight loss is amazing!! Focus on what you've achieved and not what you've got left. Every lb is a step closer to your goal.
I'm two days now without sugar, feeling exhausted. But I haven't cut down portion sizes yet as cutting sugar is hard enough at the beginning. But I'm trying to have better quality meals.

I'm due yesterday/today (CD28/29) but still no signs of AF actually arriving. I woke up feeling a bit crampy about 6am but went back to sleep and when I woke up again it's gone. I have a mild queasiness. It is also strange my boobs haven't hurt at all this month yet, which they would normally do for about a week before AF. It's so hard to not symptoms spot, but I'm really trying to temper my expectations and not get my hopes up.

@pinkpirlie and @ANP2020 thank you so much for your lovely messages, it really is so wonderful to have this community and it helps so much. It made me remember this morning why I don’t test early! Truly heart breaking.

My procedure was ok today, it turns out I have CIN - a condition of the cervix which if left untreated for a long time (she said decades) could lead to cancer. I cried throughout it and the staff were so lovely. They reassured me that it’s treatable with a minor procedure, and if I got pregnant it’s ok as treatment could happen after birth and I can continue ttc. They did some biopsies to find out the staging, but said it didn’t look too bad. So the good thing is it’s been caught and will get treated before it could become something nasty. But made me realize the importance of smear tests! The doctor also said I shouldn’t really bother with opks and just dtd regularly instead. I’m feeling quite sore this evening so just eating a silly amount of chocolate on the sofa.

I’m sorry to hear of the tonsillitis @ANP2020 please rest up and get well soon. I know how you feel though, you end up getting hopes up over everything. Also you’re never out until AF arrives!

@pinkpirlie i hope your AF hasn’t showed up by the time you see this message. I know about the tempering expectations. I have come to the conclusion that it’s better to be hopeful and excited, because if AF comes you’re gonna be disappointed and low either way so might as well feel good during the 2ww rather than anxious.

I am really looking forward to Thailand and I’m not gonna think about ttc. We will no doubt dtd regularly but it’ll be nice to have a month off by not using opks and to not know exactly what dpo I am! Have a wee break from it all. I hope you’re all well on this Friday evening

Morning ladies, well I’m still feeling rubbish with this tonsillitis! Both tonsils covered in white gunk! Still painful to swallow! Hoping it’s cleared a bit by tomorrow as I’m supposed to be taking our little boy to cadburys world! Which is a 2.5 hour drive away! Then going out for Sunday dinner! The plus side is I’ve lost another 2lbs!

so I think I’m out got some pinky cm this am so just waiting for AF to arrive in the next few hours! Feel a bit meh but it’s much better than having tested and seeing it stark white! That been said I’m having the usual mope and asking myself why isn’t it happening for us? Life’s not been fair etc! It means that random spotting I had was just random spotting! So onto the next cycle! And hopefully I’ll have a few more pounds off and I’ll ovulate!

@Annapolis35 im so sorry to hear that but so glad to hear it’s all treatable and that you can still carry on with ttc! You really deserve this break to Thailand! You’ve had a lot going on and it will just be lovely to relax and you never know!! Relaxing might just be the key!!

@pinkpirlie any news? I know exactly what you mean but it’s so hard isn’t it! You try to stay rational and calm but then your mind allows all these hopeful thoughts to sneak in!

ahhh that’s interesting Thankyou for that! I’ve not thought about abroad! I think I’ll just wait for our nhs appointment first I just think I’ll need clomid so wondered if there was anywhere I could get that from privately but all fertility clinics seem to just talk about ivf local to me which I suppose is where the big money is!!

thanks! The weightloss does feel good I feel better for it! It’s hard though! Look up Dr Michael Mosley I’m following one of his plans! It allows for no sugar, low carb so similar to what your doing with the no sugar.

Well done on all the weight loss @ANP2020 it is not easy to do so you should be proud of that. My AF also arrived this morning bang on time. I think I’m going to stop tracking for a while and just try to have regular sex (3 or 4 times a week) throughout the whole month. I’m getting so tired of all the pressure of it and knowing exactly what day I am in my cycle. I deleted the tracking apps today! And hid the one of my Fitbit. It feels so intense and it’d be nice to not have ttc as the focus of my life. Yeah hopefully the holiday will be the relaxation we need!! My husband wanted me to take opks with us haha, but I’m refusing as I need a break from that! He said it’s just peeing on a stick but I think it’s more mentally draining to be so hyper aware

Morning all

@ANP2020 so sorry the tonsillitis is making you feel so poorly. I used to get it a lot, so empathise. Are you on antibiotics now? They usually kick in after 2 days and you feel a lot better. Hopefully tomorrow you'll feel well enough for your drive to Brum and of fun at Cadbury World (I really want to take my partner so you'll have to let me know if it is adult suitable or just geared to kids).

The weight loss is amazing. I think a steady 1-2lbs a week is really good progress.
I was just talking to my partner about what I used to eat before I met him and how it was a completely different diet. He is now accepting that we need to change as what we are doing it clearly not working as both of us are putting on weight. So from today he's on board so hopefully we will stick at it.

@Annapolis35 sorry to hear AF arrived. I think stopping tracking is definitely healthy for the mind. I don't track, but I know what CD I am so it does hang a little over me but not so much as with OPKs and temping.

Now CD30. Still no sign of AF. No painful boobs, no cramping, nothing. I have had cycles about 30/31 days before so it isn't completely unusual, and two in the past year that went to 36 (one being the CP).
I'm holding out until next weekend as I don't want to test and it be a CP again.

Hi all,

I'm out. AF was my morning alarm today, waking me with the worst cramps I've had in a while.

@ANP2020 I hope you're feeling better and make your trip and Sundays dinner today.

@pinkpirlie I am really sorry AF arrived. especially as you haven’t had any symptoms - I didn’t have any cramps at all either this cycle. Our bodies really like to mess with us! All I can hope is that maybe an egg did fertilize but it didn’t implant properly. It’s got to happen for one of us soon!!! We’ve been in it for the long haul.

I admit I’ve been quite teary these past couple of days, partly because the biopsy was quite overwhelming, and I was so positive for this cycle, and I’m conscious my original due date for the mmc was 31 October. I was hoping I’d be pregnant before that, but I am trying to stay positive and it will happen when it’s meant to. It is also nice to not be pregnant while on holiday so I can properly relax, have some drinks and eat whatever I want!! I hope you’re looking after yourself. Gosh it’s been a hard year hasn’t it.

hey guys! So I’ve had a much better day! Antibiotics fully kicked in and tonsillitis pain pretty much gone! Which meant we made it to cadburys world and had a lovely day! And we’ve eaten a lot of chocolate 🤣. @pinkpirlie it was very focused towards kids but I’d say it’s be nice day without! It’s in a lovely little village too! Maybe just go during term time when they’re at school so
you can actually soak it
all in!

sorry to hear we’re all out once again! @Annapolis35 its ok to feel like that and totally understandable! It’s cruel when it doesn’t happen and with a date like that looming you can’t help but dwell on it! Me and my friend started ttc around the same time! Her baby is due next month.. I always clung to I’ll be fine when she give birth because I’ll be pregnant by then… apparently not! It’s really sad isn’t it! But I can’t dwell
on it because then I get irrationally sad and unmotivated!

so I’ve gone and booked a fertility acupuncture session! I’m a nurse through and through so this is probably a bit woo for me as it lacks evidence base! BUT I’ve read so many positive things on mumsnet and what have I got to lose?? Any thoughts? Anyone tried it?

@ANP2020 sounds like you had a lovely day!
It's only 20-30 mins from us, so I think we may well take a trip next year. I went as a child, but my memory is vague and it will have changed a lot in 30+ years.

So funny you mention acupuncture, I was literally looking at someone in my town last night who does it and wondering if it is worth trying.
The lady who does it also works in the NHS (not as an acupuncturist), and does it from home.
I never used to think much of it, but I had had terrible pain in my shoulder for as long as I can remember. I had acupuncture two years ago and it stopped hurting immediately and has never hurt again.
I haven't read much about fertility acupuncture, and I recognise the principles are probably very different, but that experience really changed my perception.

I think I'm going to reach out, I don't see that I have anything to lose.

@pinkpirlie ooo yeah if it’s close
definitely do a little trip next year!

that is strange!! Great minds and all that! Well I’m booked in for my 80 minute consultation (how long!!) on the 31st so hopefully! I’ve lost a few hours of my life on mumsnet acupuncture sucess stories so that’s given me some hope! I agree what have we got to loose! If anything it seems people find it really relaxing!

woke up feeling anxious at 4am- haven’t done this for a while and can only attribute it to ttc! I just feel a bit disheartened about it all to be honest! It’s a sad time and a really lonely time and I struggle a bit with the picking myself up every day and just living and enjoying it! I don’t know wether to access some counselling?

@ANP2020 I am really sorry you’re finding it so hard. It is really hard and just draining to be constantly disappointed. We are all here for you and feel free to talk, it is so lonely going through it. I feel like everyone around me just gets pregnant really easily and I know that’s not true, but it’s so easy to get really negative and down. I think counselling can be a help, and it depends on the individual counselor. It’s worth a try and might give you some space to talk to someone freely.

I literally just looked into acupuncture too haha! My friend was recommending it to me, and I am a bit sceptical, but I figure if it relaxes me, why not give it a shot. I’ve got nothing to lose and it isn’t gonna harm anything. I just booked it for a session on Friday so I’ll update you to how it goes.

Hey girls,

Sorry have been a bit quiet recently. I have been trying to have a chill week last week with the whole ttc. I think I ovulated Tuesday so I am 6DPO today. I had my first set of blood tests this morning for the ones that need doing 7 days before your period is due. AF is apparently due for me Monday next week so week today so shall wait and see. I am imagining that the day 21 bloods are just to check progesterone which then confirms ovulation. I know my temp has risen so I know I have ovulated so will just be interesting to see what the actually number is for progesterone. Anyone know if you can have an issue falling pregnant if progesterone is on the lower end of the scale even if it does confirm you ovulate??

Sorry to hear AF arrived for all. You must all be very similar stages of cycles now if all started over the past week. Is interesting you mention the acupuncture as I had seen it mentioned before on other threads and was always intrigued by it so if some of you are booking in then I may look into it. Like you say there is no harm in trying even if all it does is to relax. Do you know how long it kind of takes to take affect with anything?

How are you all feeling about your cycles you are starting? Trying anything new this month?

@pinkpirlie @ANP2020 @Annapolis35