Trouble titties, windy 🌬 bums, & full stockings of old 💦…TTC bus 50

[Minster2012]

When you don’t think about your days as “Monday Tuesday Wednesday” you think of them as “fertile week” or “CD12” we know the feeling.

We’ve tried baby dust (back in early 2020 I think we stopped believing in that!?, we’ve tried chocolate/pizza & sofa sex (remember that? Late 2020, that got a lot of babies!) and now we are onto manifesting, testing, pleading & yet there’s still some unwanted bleeding🤣😂well tough titties we are here to stay til we get those BFPs🤞🏻🙌🏻we just need to rinse out our foofs & get the nurses to wade through our stocking full of old sperm 💦

Whether you are TTC “normally”, IUI/ivf or anything we are a crew that cling together to the bitter end & always ready to help a sister out. We’ve had multiples, some losses so know two lines can be just as terrifying as none, and we’ve got ladies where those two lines are more illusive than a white Christmas 🎅🏻

It costs an embarrassing story for your ticket, doesn’t have to be TTC related as we know laughing when TTC is needed.

If you see mention of Instagram I have a public account where a lot of people are linked too:
Minstermusings, and a few people have created new anonymous accounts to record their TTC journey/life stupidities m/general annoyances on…just don’t mention TTC on a personal account.

Bumps & babies who want to keep track of us from our other buses 👀
@clairey844
@blackcurrantqueen
@lucyrp
@Catherinettc
@Ltay2
@BlondePotter
@Clairey844
@Gem176
@kirky658
@justanothercyster
@2020mission
@Hopeful110
@becarefuloutthere
@crazydoglady123
@Haiyaa
@lexber
@whatwonder
@bez91
@DKDK123
@minster2012
@feliznavidad2
@clolo
@gcat16
@Bea14

Story so far...

We’ve been around since March 2020 but @minster2012 took over in …
June 2020 24 BFPs
July 11 BFPs
August 18 BFPs
Sep 4 BFPs
Oct 7 BFPs
Nov 7 BFPs
Dec 14 BFPs
Jan 2021 7 BFPs
February 8 BFPs
March 5 BFPs
April 5 BFPs
May 4 BFPs
June 5 BFPs
July 1 BFP
Aug 2 BFPs
Sept 5 BFPs
October 3 BFP
November 1 BFP

Still in it for the ride are out sexy passengers:

@Franklydear
@Vil10
@Manifestingbaby
@larrythelizard
@kaylsd
@dmb91
@pennysays
@bundaberg84
@MrsBiddy

Just about hanging on with fingertips
@sausage1990

IVF/IUI/ICSI /clomid passengers as well as TTC on the side!
@somatronic
@manifestingbaby
@Dollybird89
@juno231
@paintfairy
@sunbird24
@InkyPaper

Newly promoted to the bump list;
@Bea14

@DKDK123 what were you doing up at 4.50 am?! I'm sorry the scan was such a disappointing experience, it sounds terrible. Loooved starfishing but I was bloody exhausted yesterday and even had a nap before dinner. 25 of us planted 1200 trees in the end and I was knackered from staying up late the night before 😅

@Sausage1990 welcome back!! Tell us more about the TTC progress for 2022!

@paintfairy I agree about text and to tell as soon as you can - I think I'd find it quite upsetting and almost deceitful if I was told late in this situation. My ex colleague was struggling to conceive last year and would come speak to me about it a lot. Then I heard through the grapevine this spring that she was pregnant enough to know she was expecting a girl and I was pretty upset she had "forgotten" to tell me when we were in this together.

@MegAnne83 it all really depends on when you ovulated and whether the line is strong accordingly or perhaps too faint and indicating a loss. I'm really sorry it's so unclear and messing with your head, I can't even imagine!

@Juno231 thank you, yes it really is messing with my head! I ovulated around cd 17/18 (using opk) bleed Began cd26 8/9dpo.
Nothing I can do but poas and wait for the doctors to open!
Lordie so much for a weekend to unwind!!!

Morning lovely ladies,

Oh @Sausage1990 welcome back 🥰😘we e missed you, some of the ladies have asked about you & I said you were ok & would he back with us when you felt ready...I'm so pleased - sticky blood sisters 👯‍♀️

@MegAnne83 oh the whole thing is rounds and rounds of different waiting I'm afraid but if you've got a few positives over last night - did you do any this morning? Let's hope it's getting buried in but that's bleeding is weird! Sorry about your MIL

@DKDK123 oh no that doesn't sound like a good experience but the others are right, your baby is in there happy & snuggled & sat on your bladder wiggling away 😜so onto the 18th!

@Juno231 love a good starfish and the tree planting that's fab!! Is it a wedding today or tomorrow or did I dream that?

@Vil10 is it worth writing a letter to the sellers & dropping it in to support your offer? As to how you would love the house? But definitely we've got all extremities crossed for you

@Kirky658 go Alice that's brilliant!! Well done mummy! Do you have the therapy each week?

@clolo when is your scan?

I had horrendous pain this morning, it must be round ligament pain but I sneezed and then was in tears from a searing pain for about 5 minutes (it got me out of a dog walk though before DH left!) but was awful

I may be a bit absent today...got couple of things with DS this morning (DH out) then also looking after nephew after our swimming for the rest of the day

@DKDK123 they could have handled that so much better, incredibly sad for that lady, but come on,

@Kirky658 @Juno231 I think that was my thinking originally. Is it right to even wait until after 14th to tell her? Or should I do it sooner. Because my thinking was maybe the longer I leave it, the worse it would actually be. Its so hard because actually I could get to the 14th and it be irrelevant but then equally it's then also sad she doesn't know it went wrong either if I just never say a word about it. 🤷‍♀️ I'm meant to test next week to see if it's still progressing, so if it is, maybe i should say then?
@DKDK123 I was thinking the same! Why were you awake up 4.30am? Still, i was awake from 2am until about then. Its driving me mad. God. I think with all of this- nothing is ever how you imagine it to be. Even when it should feel positive. I'm pleased everything is OK, thank god. But yeah that sounds a farce. How awful for that couple. I agree though, surely they could have just slotted you into another room, and delay everyone else only slightly. How on earth they expect people to keep holding it, I've no bloody idea? I would have sounded irate at the receptionist if I was about to pee myself!
@Sausage1990 welcome back!
@MegAnne83 difficult to know. Mum actually had periods for the first 3 months with me. So it might not be bad. But it could also be a chemical. Horrid limbo to be in.
@Minster2012 I have sneezing sharp pains sometimes. Always have. Really hurts! No idea what it bloody is but its not nice. Enjoy your day!

What are peoples thoughts on dtd? Is it safe? I feel like it is but I need to leave it longer before having an orgasm, in case? 🤔🤣 To make sure it won't fall out!

@minster2012 yep the plan is for the EMDR therapy once a week. Idea is to 'process' a memory from the trauma each week.
@paintfairy I'd tell her once you've done the progressing test personally. I think it's fairer to let her know it is something now rather than waiting ❤️

@Kirky658 go Alice, let's hope it's the start of a great sleep pattern that gives you a bit more rest.

@Juno231 1200 trees wow that's impressive, go you guys!
& @paintfairy the pregnancy insomnia has been non stop since about week 6 😴 No matter how late I try to stay up I'm still wide awake from about 2am and start to fall back asleep again about 5 (just for DS to come bounding in 30mins-an hour later) so now I give in even trying to stay up later and just go to bed ASAP to at least get a few hours in before I'm awake during the night. I was bad for it with DS but it didn't start this early.

@minster2012 the ripping sensation when sneezing can be scary but completely normal. But also a good excuse to make your OH do the chores for the rest of the day, say its your body's way of telling you you're overdoing it 😉 Tho sounds like you've a busy day ahead with your swimming and looking after your nephew, feet up and chill tonight after it. I've got DS football classes this morn which I can see far enough, luckily it's indoors so we're not at the standing out in the pissing rain watching football matches which I know is to come in the future 🙈

@paintfairy dtd is perfectly fine but we held out a few more weeks as mentally I kept thinking it might just dislodge the jellybean even tho I knew it was physically impossible. So I think it just depends if you can relax enough or if that'll be in your head too much.

@Sausage1990 welcome back! Great to see you 😊

@paintfairy I agree with what @Minster2012 said. You're being very sensitive and there's not much more you can do. You can't control how she reacts.

I'm having a shocking weekend. My builder told us yesterday evening that he's going to start works on Monday (we were expecting him to start next weekend) and DH is having problems with the car which is fabulous timing. He was meant to go to stay with my parents because he has to work from home (no option of going into work) and I was going to stay in Dublin 3 days a week and go to my parents' for the rest of the week because my boss won't let me work from home full time for the 2 weeks of the build (despite govt asking everyone who can to work from home). Anyway now he can't drive, he spent the whole day trying to sort the car while I tried to move the entire downstairs of the house upstairs because the building work involve downstairs of house.

Husband came home from the mechanics like a fucking dog and is wrecking my buzz. We also haven't bought things we need for the build because we thought we had more time and because DH is in charge (I'm managing making a baby and he's managing the renovation).

That's my rant, thanks for listening!

@DKDK123 your mum had periods for 3 months?! Wowsers that's not ideal. I def would have weed myself 😂🤣

@clolo oooo that's not too long away! Crikey seems fast!

@Somatronic that sounds pretty stressful, though I laughed at your last comment about you managing making the baby & him managing the renovation!! Let's put it this way, there's so many builders that are putting stops on things over here I'd take a builder who wants to start early!!

A rant, ladies
So, cd 30, big sore boobs, bloated, tired, somehow I don’t feel like testing, dh want me to test tomorrow so he’ll be home, rather than getting a text, I don’t feel it, now, the unreasonable part, it would be the same day of last period, same cd, same due date as last year, and we all know how that ended, bleeding started at cd 32, confirmation at cd 36, I think, I kinda want to go past cd32 to test, yes, I know is not last year repeat

@Franklydear it's perfectly reasonable to not want to test on the same day so don't be hard on yourself, can you explain to DH? That maybe for this one leave it

Waiting to go past cd 36 is overkill, isn’t it? @Minster2012 I think I am going to have to spell it out to him, don’t I? I don’t think he’ll connect the dots by himself

And I can’t even cry, I am with ds all day and he’s worried about being ill, so I can’t 😭

@Franklydear waiting for after CD36 isn't overkill if you are pregnant you could wait til cd40 if you really wanted (or could) but I doubt it 😂DS knows you can be down about being ill (he doesn't have to know what it's actually about)

@Minster2012 yep, I guess I'll wake up one day and decide to poas, I mean ds is already worried about being ill, I am trying to make light of it, one of his classmates was in the ICU with covid not long ago, so everything is good is the theme

Gosh what a lovely warm welcome back from you all. Thank you so much @dkdk123 @kirky685 @blackcurrantqueen @lexber @paintfairy @somatronic @minster2012 @franklydear @juno231💕

I had planned on replying sooner but was looking after my parents foster girls today and was a bit busy to give it my proper attention.

Firstly congratulations to the ladies who've had their BFPs and their babies since I've been away! So nice to come back to more pregnancies and babies... And hello to anyone who's newer and doesn't know who I am 👋🏻 I've been around since the bus began but haven't had quite the straightforward journey to motherhood as I'd hoped. After an early loss at 5 weeks & 2 missed miscarriages at 12 & 11weeks, my mental health was in a horrific place and I needed to take a step away.

@juno231 you wanted a bit of an update on the next step 🙂 as you may remember I was referred to reoccurring miscarriage clinic at my local hospital and well I had a load of blood tests in June & July, and after a LONG wait I had my consultant appointment with results about 3weeks ago.

My one test (cardiolipin antibodies) came back negative on both blood tests but the other one (lupus anticoagulant) came back positive and the 2nd one (had blood taken in June & July so the June was negative but July was positive)... So although I need another positive to be officially diagnostic, the consultant will still treat it as positive given my medical history and reoccurent losses.... So it looks like I do have antiphospholipid syndrome (sticky blood syndrome).

That means 150mg aspirin from the next BFP and then clexaine injections once I've had an early scan to confirm pregnancy & that it's in the uterus and not ectopic... So pregnancy will be high risk but will hopefully have plenty of support.

I felt a lot of mixed emotions. Relief to have a plan, sad that it was my blood clotting that caused my losses, and scared to hope for the next pregnancy. Its alot but its also good to have some answers.

As a side note my average blood glucose was slightly on the higher end of normal,it was normal but higher than I'd like. I know that (plus my strong family history & high BMI) it puts me at higher risk of gestational diabetes so that's also makes me higher risk.

ANYWAY long story short my plan is to loose some weight, get back on track with my vitamins (ovusense) & my folic acid 5mg. And then hopefully in February time we will be in a better place to start TTC again...

Gosh wow that was a lot. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk haha

Also the weight loss plan is a very low energy plan (800 calories) that is strict but will give me some quick results so I can shift some serious pounds. I've been on my plan 2 weeks and I've lost 8lb already.

I feel like weight loss & vitamins seems a bit basic, because as you all know I don't believe that having a higher bmi stops you getting pregnant or having a successful pregnancy (I see every shape and size in my antenatal clinic in work) however I can't undo what I know from my work.

I now know that I have a blood issue that makes pregnancy high risk, I have a family history that also can make pregnancy higher risk and I know adding a high BMI into the mix makes those risks more troublesome... I can't change my blood issue (except for the treatment plan) and I can't change my family history but what I can do is take ownership of my weight and lifestyle to help reduce one of those risk factors...

Sorry I'll stop my rambling. But yeah that's me lol 💕

Frankly there's no rules for poas, do whatever will give you peace of mind x

Welcome back Sausage 😘 glad you have some more info and a plan. Good on you with the wait loss. Sounds like you are in a good place to tackle what you can. How's the sewing going?

*weight

@manifestingbaby yeah it feels good to have a plan after being in limbo since May!

Yeah sewing is going really well. Been busy with Christmas orders and I've only got 1 more outfit to make before I'm done with orders... Then it's on to my own Xmas sewing projects 🙂 I'm really enjoying it still. Just need to figure out how to get more interest as it's really tailed off... That will come with time I'm sure xx

Oh @Somatronic what a weekend you're having of it! Hope the rest of your weekend starts to go better!

@Minster2012 it was @paintfairys mum that still had periods for 3 months. Tho one of the girls I know didn't know she was pregnant till she was about 5months gone as she was still having periods, no morning sickness and put on no weight till then. She's extremely lucky baby didn't end up with FAS as she drank like a fish till she found out!

Big hugs @Franklydear any kind of milestone or date memory is hard, I fully understand why you don't want to test tomorrow but I think you'll need to spell it out for DH so that he can be there to support you more. You've also got a lot on your plate at the moment looking after DS while he's ill, poor guy I can see why he'd be feeling so worried after what happened with his friend! We'll get you past the next few emotional days then you can test when you're ready. 🤞

@sausage1990 glad to hear there's a plan of action in place for your next pregnancy. It's not the same as mine were all earlier losses than yours but I had 8 in total that didn't make it passed the 6 week mark, on the 9th I started taking 75mg daily asprin from my bfp just to feel like I was at least trying something different this time round and that's the one that's now currently 13 weeks. It may be total coincidence that this one worked and I took asprin, I'd not been tested for sticky blood or anything but when I told the midwife at the booking scan I'd been taking asprin she said for some people with recurrent losses it really does seem to work, after speaking to the consultant they told me to up my daily dose to 150mg. So I hope that gives you a bit of hope that the asprin along with the clexaine injections will hopefully be exactly what you need to keep your next pregnancy going full term till that baby's in your arms 🥰
On the BMI chat, good for you to have something to focus on just now, just don't restrict yourself too much in the long run and over do it or be too hard on yourself if that low an intake isn't sustainable in the long term. I dont know if you were still on the bus when I was under the fertility clinic and they were making me feel like shit about my BMI? Because all my tests were coming back clear (even tho it was only fertility tests not recurrent mc tests but that's another rant) they were basically saying it was my BMI causing all the losses and I felt awful thinking I was killing my babies. I know a higher bmi isn't healthy and doesn't help but it felt like such a cop out we can't find a problem so you're the problem, especially given lots of people with normal bmis also have recurrent mc. Anyways all my appointments with them were over the phone so they hadn't actually weighed me or saw my shape/size and were just going with the weight I was telling them from my home scales. When I went to my midwife booking appointment I weighed myself at home that day and was also weighed at the appointment and my home scales were a whole stone heavier than the doctors ones! So all along my bmi wasn't actually as high as the fertility clinic thought it was as they were going off my scales and it just goes to show what a cop out it was for them just to automatically blame that! So please don't be too hard on yourself on the bmi front just focus on being as healthy as you can rather than as light as you can. Sending you all the positive vibes in the world that your bus journey is short and successful (tho you're not actually allowed to leave even when that happens)

Ladies I feel like absolute shit and it's my own fault for being a pig 🐖 DH was having a dominos and I've not really enjoyed food this pregnancy but last night I felt totally ravenous and was so pleased my appetite seemed to be coming back so I got a pizza too. It was heaven, absolutely delicious to eat and enjoy a meal again. Tho I totally over done it. Pre pregnancy my limit would be about 3 slices of medium pizza, 4 at an absolute push before I was totally full. Last night because I was enjoying eating again so much I wolfed down 6 slices AND two cookies!!! I've then spent all night being sick, have heartburn and feel like utter shit. Completely self inflicted, like when you get a hangover and you're lying in bed groaning I'm never drinking again, well I'm never eating again even if it was so good at the time 😂🐷

@Somatronic ahhh sounds hectic! You'll do it I'm sure even though you're up against the clock. What building works are you having done?

@Franklydear you do you and test when you're ready. Like you say you'll probably wake up one morning and just feel like testing

@Sausage1990 glad the RMC have you a plan although I can appreciate the mixed emotions. You've been on such a rollercoaster but accompanied by your own plan it sounds great for you to get into a better head space. Well done on the 8lb loss that's fab! RMC advised aspirin dose for me along with progesterone and high dose folic acid (I hadn't got to the investigations stage so unsure if/what the issue was) it could be a complete coincidence but its the furthest I've got so far.

@DKDK123 oh dear, hope you're feeling better this morning. If it's any conciliation I'm also a 🐷 at the moment!

@DKDK123 errrrr I had a MacDonalds AND a Chinese last night as DH wanted a Chinese. But I wasn't sick so it's allllll just sat there on my hips!! (Must listen to MIL 😂🙈) I also took aspirin after OV & now on 150mg but I already knew I had the same sticky blood as @Sausage1990 weirdly though with my ivf they didn't want me taking anything & that's the one that ended in MMC.

Darling @Sausage1990 firstly WELL DONE on the weight loss that's amazing!!! And I've said to you before there should be no blaming yourself. As you know some embryos just aren't due to make it to babies no matter what, and some need that bit of extra support to make it. That's the way I've made my peace, and this one has embraced the support & it's worked, your plan will work & you will get your 🌈 🥰and we are here for you. For the sewing bits have you joined some Facebook groups to sell? I buy and sell a lot on resale sites and often ppl sell on those

@Franklydear I def think it's a "just decide on the morning" thing

@Somatronic oh god what a weekend you're having!! Look at the positives though, at least the work will be done soon and out of the way, even if it does feel stressful now!!x

@Minster2012 well the seller is a 90 year old woman on her own so I feel like the writing the letter wouldn't work on her, the estate agent who showed us round we kinda know him through friends so we're hoping on Monday he'll give us some kinda indication on who's offered the most and how much it is, a friendly hint won't do any harm will it🙄 hope your pain is better today? And yesss love that with Chinese and McDonald's!! You deserve it lady!

@Franklydear completely understand feeling wary, but you do what you thinks best and test when you feel comfortable, we'll be here❤️

@Sausage1990 woooo sausage, welcome back!! Glad to hear you have a plan in place for your next pregnancy, hoping it'll be the one🤞🏼 so the sticky blood thing, my aunty and uncle struggled TTC and had tests done and was ruled as unexplained because all tests were fine, they went ahead with ivf and got twins, and it was only after the birth when she had blood tests for something that they found out she had sticky blood too and was possibly the cause of her not being able to conceive!! Amazing on the weight loss too well done!!

Thankyou all so much for the well wishes for the house! The best and final email is going out tomorrow morning and I'm so so nervous, I just want this house so bad!! Obviously ive already decided on the kitchen I want even before having an offer accepted, I need to calm down😂 we have a christening today that I really can't be arsed with, I hate being out all day on a Sunday because I like to tidy/change the bedding, make my dinners and prep for the week on a Sunday so I just feel so unorganised!! Anyway, hope you all have a lovely day!!