Feb 2020 Bus Pt 4

[Juno231]

For the small group of ladies still here from the original February bus from 2020.

Maybe 2022 is when we finally get our babies?

@MimiArm
@paintfairy
@MrsTwentyNine

@Juno231 I wonder. My lead was 18mm on Friday (the rest smaller) and I was triggered Saturday. Some people are told to take meds the day of trigger too but I wasn't. So you do wonder if they needed an extra day or the extra meds?
Having said that- there were only 10 on my scan (and they say not all follicles contain eggs) so I was surprised they got 12. Had they only got the original 10 then the drop off rate is actually what we have now. Clearly with the percentages you have to round down and not up. Some people achieve better than average rates though so you secretly hope you might be one of them!

Provisional transfer is 10.40am Saturday. They will call between 9.10am and 9.40am with the update. Which is cutting it fine when I've got to be there 15 mins before. We'll need to leave here about 9.45am.

@paintfairy can't believe it's time for transfer already! Has time dragged for you this week? I'll have everything crossed for you tomorrow morning and I so so hope it's good news and that it works 🤞

@Juno231 it actually hasn't dragged, no. But I still feel not great. Really bloated. No idea how I will be able to hold wee tomorrow. 🤣 Still praying for more than 1.

I was watching this morning yesterday and the lady on that had 6 failed rounds. Got the baby on round 7. Harsh reminder that this is how it is for some people and that's not something most can afford!

Officially PUPO!
So, my clinic experience was mixed. I think no one likes working Saturdays? The nurse was nice. But the theatre nurse needed work on her bedside manner and friendliness. The consultant wasn't much better. Firstly wanted to know if I'm wetting myself and if I'm not i need to drink more. I felt like I'd had enough and it's always a fine line for me and was stressing me. I also queried my progesterone levels (being they say mine are low naturally) and if they'll check, and they just make you feel stupid? 🤷‍♀️ But no they won't check.
When the embryologist rang this morning, DH took the piss saying why couldn't I understand what he said on the phone. Partly you are overwhelmed but also it was hard to hear him. But it was the same one when we got there, so I was wondering to myself if he realised that, or what was said. 🤣 And he did realise, and didn't hear. But basically the lead embryo had improved from this morning, the grading i don't understand, I think he said 2.2. The others (still no idea how many others there are, at least 2) will be checked again later/tomorrow and frozen if suitable. I'll get an update tomorrow on the portal so then it should make more sense. It went in all fine and we have photos! I'll take a pic of them actually. Which is why the insta thing is annoying. I might make a new one. Oh and I've had my McDonald's fries! To which DH said he wasn't sure how comfortable he was that this would be a babies first meal. 🤣

@MimiArm how are you?

Today's update
Only 1 embryo suitable for freezing. I was hoping we'd miraculously have 2 but I'm thankful for any. Age is not on our side and to get 2 decent day 5's is probably something I should be thankful for. I'm pleased to have a fall back, as I was dreading not having. I guess we just have to wait and see now.

@paintfairy Hey! I was on holiday (our belated honeymoon that had been cancelled last year) and just back home so only seeing your updates.

Wow - what a batch of updates! Congrats on being PUPO! I'm sure you're going through a range of emotions. Happy days that you have a frostie in the freezer too. I know you wanted more than one, but it's still another one which is fantastic. Now the dreaded wait - eek!

@MimiArm did you go anywhere nice? I hope you had a lovely time!
Yeah, it's all bizarre and very surreal. Kind of like it's happening to someone else? Definitely not how I expected it, I'm sure.

@paintfairy We just went to the south coast of Ireland to the pet friendly Seaview cottage so the dogs came on holidays too. It was lovely to get the time away.

How are you feeling?

@Juno231

I'm not sure what to think. I stupidly tested 2 days ago and got a positive test but was aware it could be the trigger shot. That was 10 days post trigger.

Tested again yesterday and still a line.

Again today (12 DPT) and I am as sure as my eyes will allow that the line is darker. Thoughts???

I don't know when I ovulated. On 29 Oct I got the trigger and the follicle was 18. The nurse said I was ready to pop anytime but she told me to hold off on starting the Cyclogest until that Sunday evening.

So I think I either ovulated on the Friday, Saturday or Sunday which means I am somewhere between 10-12 DPO.

Do you think these lines are the trigger shot?

@MimiArm that sounds lovely!
Its impossible to be sure to be honest, unless you test it out from the beginning. The only way you'll know is if the line is getting darker every day, as opposed to lighter.
My acupuncture lady told me last night to definitely not test this week no matter how much I'm tempted because the trigger will still be there (trigger will be 2 weeks this coming Saturday). Which i wouldn't have anyway. After the iui I used cheap tests a week after trigger and nothing showed on those but I'm not sure how good the tests are (didn't want to waste a frer) and individuals do process it differently.

Personally I would like to think by now that it isn't the trigger, so I'm cautiously optimistic for you, but I wouldn't rule it out. 🤞

@paintfairy Thanks - I am cautiously optimistic but staying very grounded. I'm sure the line is getting a bit darker everyday. Can you see it or am I imagining it?

I tested for two reasons.

1 - I had a sudden dizzy spell. I remembered having the very same thing last time around.

2 - I've had non stop heartburn for the past few days and I don't normally have heartburn.

Friday is my test date so I guess I'll test again tomorrow and see what happens.

@MimiArm I swear triggers should be out of your system by like 8dpo at the latest no?? This is 100% the real deal in my humble opinion! Which is fantastic!!! Congratulations and I've got everything crossed that it all goes well xxx

@Juno231 Thank you. My gut feeling is that it's a real BFP. I felt like I knew before I did the first test.

I think the Metformin combined with the Clomid and the trigger have all complimented each other to make things right. I also randomly lost 10 pounds in the last month, thanks to Metformin.

That being said, triggers can linger for up to 14 days apparently so I'm trying my best to maintain a neutral reaction. To be honest, if it is real, I will really struggle because of what happened last time. I have an overwhelming fear now. xxx

@MimiArm you can't genuinely compare the frer because it's a different test. But yes the lines do look to be getting darker from the photos.
And one time has to work! It's just getting the right sticky bean. 😬 Keep positive.

@paintfairy @Juno231

Today's progress ... bottom is today (I ran out of cheapies)

I took baby aspirin last night and gonna keep taking it until I start my blood thinner injections on Monday. Can't hurt can it?

How are you both today?

@MimiArm oh wow that looks so good - I'm do happy for you!! Please keep us posted, if happily look at every single one of your wee sticks 😁

I'm just plodding along - AF showed up this week 🤷

@paintfairy I went down a warren hole of DNA fragmentation on the infertility board. Makes me wonder if you fertilisation rates were more due to OHs swimmers than your eggs. I'm already thinking if our NHS rounds don't work I'll get OH tested for it.

@Juno231 Thanks so much. I'm very conscious to not be insensitive and I actually regretted my post earlier!

BUT, I know your IVF will be kicking off very soon and @paintfairy is already PUPO so I'm hoping we are all going to be in the same boat very soon 🤞

@MimiArm yay! That's what I was hoping to see! 🥳
@Juno231 I'm not sure, because 5 of the 8 fertilised. 🤷‍♀️ So the sperm can't be that bad. And the issue with icsi is- they might pick crap ones that aren't necessarily crap to the naked eye. Pushing them to day 5 is also questionable, as many people get pregnant with questionable day 3s that would have made it to day 5 and certainly not to freezing. Its just so variable? And our drop off rates from the 8 seem fairly normal.
As to why they don't do the dna frag thing though if things look iffy, I'm not sure? Seems silly. What can you actually do about it though?

I have a friend and because his sperm is so bad, the nhs did do one. And it came back fine. Yet their ivf they only managed 1 decent embryo out of 9 that fertilised. Its just a minefield.

@paintfairy @Juno231 Hi both. Nothing to report here. Lines keep getting stronger each day still. I think the test line is now pretty much as dark as the control line, which is good. I start the Clexane tonight and I've got my first scan booked in, in 3 weeks today when I will be 7+1.

@paintfairy When is OTD?

@Juno231 Is your IVF confirmed for January?

@MimiArm that's good! Fingers crossed for the scan. 🤞🤞🤞
OTD isn't until Friday. Its really late. I'm 9dp5dt today.

@paintfairy How are you coping resisting by the urge to test? Or are you not even thinking/tempted to test?

@MimiArm I don't want to know the outcome. 🤣

@paintfairy That's understandable. I'd probably feel the same way. Does that mean your solid plan is wait until Friday?

I supposed it's called a OTD for a reason.

@MimiArm many clinics have otd 11 days after transfer. Mine for some reason is 13. I think I'd get a definitive result if I tested Wednesday to be honest. But DH is out early that day! The trigger only stays 2 weeks max so that'll definitely be gone and realistically it should probably show from now. But if I get a bfn I'll regret testing.

@paintfairy it sounds like it makes sense to wait until Friday then (or Thursday). I can see why you would regret testing earlier than Weds. You will know when you're ready to test.

Did Cyclogest give you bad heartburn? I've had heartburn everyday for over a week and it's driving me nuts. It's so bad when I lie down that I wake up with a surge of vomit coming up (tmi - sorry).