TTC after MC - October 2021 thread 20

[OneDay86]

Hi all, just noticed that we had reached our limit on the last thread so here we are now on thread 20! Have to admit I’m very new to this thread still so please tag anyone I’ve missed…

@SLCxxx
@justwant2beamum
@Canadadarling
@Marvellouslymadmum
@SamBass
@bubblybrit
@elsimo
@Loulou237
@Fingerscrossedfor2021HK
@susiebluebell
@Mamat90
@Lollipop25
@TheDaydreamBelievers
@bez91
@susiebluebell
@loz2467
@coconutlatte44
@Sarah0409
@Unarosaes
@Wishingfornumber2
@hewegoagain
@chasingtherainbow1
@RosieRainbow1986
@re6ecca
@Fishbaby
@PolarBear63
@weathervane123
@Onebabyandamadcat
@pureofmind
@davidrosejumper
@Elciekay
@Fern346
@Beleeve
@ChangeHtotheP
@Hopefull1981
@Twinkles18
@Anotherboy
@Elsie2021
@Quinn26
@broodymamma
@Capricorn8990
@CeebeeUS5
@LauraLivs1986

Not started a new thread before so I’ve just gone back through thread 19 and tried to tag everyone whose posted. Apologies if I’ve ended up tagging anyone though that no longer wants to follow the thread. I’m sure there’s been quite a few bfps. Here’s hoping for many more on here too🤞

Ah @elsimo and @SLCxxx you make my heart sing 😊 congratulations and well done! Xxx

@elsimo omg congratulations! Wonderful news! so happy for you!

@SLCxxx congratulations to you too! You both give me lots of hope! Sending lots of love!

Thanks everyone! Just before I was fell pregnant with him I was struggling to even read the forum.
It was a long, hard journey and I can honestly say the 2 years ttc him were the hardest of our lives but here we are.
U just never know if next month will be ur bfp xx

Ahhh congratulations @elsimo and @SLCxxx what wonderful news! And also congrats to all the bfps that have been on this thread. It all gives me hope and makes me feel so happy 😊

I’m also so sorry to those that have suffered a miscarriage and are still trying for a baby. My heart really goes out to you ❤️

I’m sorry I’ve been very absent from this forum for quite a while now. If I’m being honest I was really struggling mentally with the trying to conceive process, couldn’t shake the anxious feeling like it’s never going to happen for me. I needed to take a step back from it for a bit. But feel a little more positive now - still have my anxious moments but overall I’m not feeling as bad about it. Helps we have a sort of plan now. Started Clomid this cycle, will try that for a few months and if no luck move on to laparoscopy and/or ivf. Fingers crossed we’ll all have more bfps on here soon x

Very quiet around here. Hope everyone well. Having a HSG tomorrow as still not pregnant. Officially 2.5 years this month.

Hi @re6ecca! I was literally thinking the same thing a few days ago - how quiet it’s been on this thread lately. Hope everyone is doing okay.

How did your HSG go today? Hope it went well. I’ve never had one but been thinking about looking into it, but I have just been approved for a laparoscopy (mainly to check for endometriosis) so just waiting for my operation date for that first.

I’m sorry it’s been such a long journey for you, I’m not far behind you, will be 2 years next month for me. Must be our turn soon x

Hey @OneDay86 ! I wasn't sure if anyone would answer really! HSG was okay, felt a bit uncomfortable whilst happening and a few cramps after but not the worst experience I've ever had.
Hopefully your laparoscopy goes well!
Fingers crossed that your endo isn't too bad.

Yes I'm definitely glad to watch people get happy endings but I would like it to be mine!

Hey @OneDay86 how's it going? I'm now cycle 32 of ttc

Hi @re6ecca! How are you? Hope things are okay with you. Really sorry to hear you haven’t had your bfp yet. I’m not far behind you, just started cycle 27. It’s been 10 months since my miscarriage. Really thought/hoped to be pregnant again by now. Ah well, onto the next cycle, maybe this will be the one 🤞

On a positive note though, I’m finally having my laparoscopy! Having it done tomorrow. Quite nervous now as it’s under general anaesthetic but interested to know what/if they find anything. My consultant feels he’ll find endo and will then hopefully remove it. I’ll keep you updated anyway.

Did your HSG show anything? Glad it wasn’t too painful. I’m seriously considering moving on to IVF after this laparoscopy if nothing is found. Just feel like I can’t get pregnant naturally for some reason since my miscarriage and constantly worry time is running out for me x

Ah wow! That’s an old thread! Nice to hear from some of you again!
I hope there’s some good news lurking on here!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
im now 3 years TTC, 9 months post MMC.
I start stims for IVF tomorrow!
I went back to the fertility clinic after the MC and they recommended an IVF referral as my follicle count had dropped - they said it would only get worse 😵‍💫
I lose in the postcode lottery where I live (only 1 funded round pre 40… I’m now 42) so they referred me for funded locally in November. Took until March to even get a phone call to book a consult in April with treatment potentially in Autumn.
so I researched and went ahead with a clinic in Spain. Amazing so far! Super quick, super efficient, a little cheaper but MUCH better stats.
i don’t think my odds are very high - AMH got down to 0.5, AFC 7 on last cycle…. But we’re giving it a go with my own eggs and hoping and praying 🙏🏼
ive been having acupuncture and taking selenium and CoQ10 since Feb and started DHEA during my primer cycle last month.
I go to Spain next Sunday for retrieval!! 😳😳
I can’t believe it’s happening really!!!

@OneDay86 defo start researching and asking questions about IVF - it helps to put your mind to something and it can take a loooong time so you can keep trying naturally in the meantime. Get your body ready too - if you’re not already 👌🏼 It takes at least 3 months for the changes you make to impact egg quality. Are you taking supplements??

Hi @Kelb79! lovely to hear from you, although sorry you’re still on this TTC journey too. Sounds like some exciting things about to happen for you though. Have all my fingers crossed for you! 🤞 How did you find the clinic in Spain if you don’t mind me asking? I really think my other half and I are going to do ivf after this laparoscopy. I had my AFC done back in February for it, and it wasn’t great for my age but they said to definitely try ivf. I’m currently on the NHS waiting list but it’s so long we’re thinking of trying one round privately but ‘mild ivf’. It’s cheaper than full blown ivf.

Can I ask, is AFC the total of both ovaries or what they see on one? Always get confused with this. I’ve been taking pregnecare/seven seas TTC vitamins as well as CoQ10, omega 3 and extra vitamin C. Do you think there’s any others I should be taking? My diet isn’t the best though and I’m overweight so I could definitely make improvement in that area. I’d heard that it takes 3 months for any change to have affect on eggs so I guess I really need to start now if we’re going to do ivf soon.

Thats really great news you’re going for egg retrieval next week! All the best for you. My cousin had ivf at 42 and had her first baby at 43 so I definitely have faith in it. She didn’t have a great egg count but like they say, all you need is one good egg 😊

@OneDay86 defo look into things - you’ll know if it feels right 👌🏼
a friend of mine had a failed round in the UK - it was her only funded one so she started researching all the options. She’s a research nut!! 🤣 She made me realise how easy IVF abroad actually was and when I looked at the stats their success rate is sooooo much higher!! It’s really cheap in some places (Greece, Cyprus, Prague…. I think) but Spain are world leaders and I found the connections to be a little easier so I decided on there. When you factor in travel etc it’s not much cheaper than it would’ve been here but I have more faith in their process. (And I get a little holiday 🤪🤪) I’m working with IVF Spain in Alicante 👌🏼

so AFC is the total count of both ovaries. I only had 7 at my last count but they said that’s not bad and they’re confident they can work with it 🤷🏼‍♀️ I’m hoping the stims might give a few more though 🙏🏼🙏🏼

I’d get Selenium into your supplement list too - it’s supposed to be great for egg quality 👌🏼 The clinic have given me DHEA that I’ve been taking for 6 weeks too. I hear really good things about it but, being a hormone, it’s not advised to take it off your own back, it can work against you if you don’t actually need it.

if you can afford it (and find a therapist who specialises in fertility) acupuncture is great!! I’ve been having it since Feb, it’s chilled me out a lot and also changed things with my cycle. Lengthened my cycle a bit, stopped cramps and headaches, and made my bleeds much healthier! I had hoped it might help a natural conception - it didn’t for me but I’m pretty confident it will have changed things for the better for the IVF 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

hope your laparoscopy went well 🙏🏼🙏🏼 Do you have results straight away?? xX

@Kelb79 wow didn’t realise how successful ivf is in Spain. Might have a look at that myself! Plus a little holiday at the same time sounds nice. Really have everything crossed for you for Sunday! ❤️ How are you feeling - excited yet? 😊

Thanks for the advice on the selenium, will make sure to add that. Had heard about DHEA but also heard it should be taken under direction of a doctor/fertility specialist so may hold off on that one for now. I also do acupuncture! Off and on admittedly. But I really found it helped with blood flow to my abdomen and lessened bloating etc. Feel like it definitely helps, plus I got pregnant whilst doing it last year, although unfortunately ended in mc. Currently started it back up the last couple of months so fingers crossed.

So I had my laparoscopy yesterday and they found endometriosis! Im my consultants words, it was quite well established and is likely to have had a big impact on my fertility, specifically around implantation, which would make sense because I seem to take ages to get pregnant each time, like nearly a year. He’s confident he’s removed it all, although my understanding of endo is that it can come back. But he said our optimum time for getting pregnant now is in the next 6-9 months and we can start as soon as I feel healed enough to. I think we’ll give two or three more cycles naturally then move on to ivf. If I was younger and had more time I would maybe wait but I don’t want to miss out on our chance!

@Kelb79 also how are you finding the stims? Hope they’re ok and you’re not having many side effects x

Hi Ladies

I hope you are all coping.

I have been in two minds to post this but for those still on the hell that is the TTC journey I wanted to give you some hope.

In truth I have found these forums both a blessing and a curse as it was lovely to have support but as time went on and people upgraded to the pregnant after loss groups and new people joined and then upgraded again and again I found myself falling deeper into I guess a depression of sorts and it all felt very painful. I wanted to be happy for them but I just found the situation so unfair and I felt bitter and just really sad. Why wasn’t it my turn. I hated seeing the ‘join us on the pregnant group’ messages. I know I sound really bitter but I want to be honest and I hope this might help someone that is beating themselves up a bit about not being super happy whenever someone moves up to the next level. It is a very hard road.

For those that don’t remember me, I had an Ectopic, 2 MMC and 3 chemicals over the years. Out of sheer desperation I stopped drinking any alcohol, gave up sugar, caffeine and all the other ridiculous things you put yourself through which sucks the remaining joy from your life. You know, just to punish yourself that little bit more.

I then endured three relatively fruitless full rounds of IVF due to a low AMH. The first producing no embryo’s, the second one and the third two. None of the transfers took and I was feeling very low. My consultant advised me to do one more frozen round with my remaining embryo and then try naturally before considering other options as I seemed to be having more success that way. It felt like the end and I basically shut myself away with the curtains drawn and spent a couple of weeks crying. I was in a very dark place.

I cannot express how stressed and low I felt during that time but by some complete miracle before I got round to the frozen transfer I discovered I was pregnant naturally. I must have ovulated ridiculously early.

So also for those, just relax and it will happen, comments from well meaning friends and relatives it genuinely was the complete opposite space I was in. Perhaps I benefited from getting so stressed I felt like I might burst!

I am now six months pregnant.

I just wanted to share my story and say that I really hope this gives you ladies some hope as I know how dark the time can feel particularly when it feels like you are the only remaining people on the forum. I left because of that because I simply couldn’t bear it so you are much braver than me. I also know how it feels when you pray that IVF will be the magic wand you desperately deserve, spend all your savings and then it doesn’t work.

Sending you all love and hope. You are much braver than you give yourselves credit for and I really hope your time is closer than it feels right now. You will be amazing mums.

xxxx

@Mustkeepgoing2 I am in tears reading your post! I'm one of those who 'moved on' but I've kept up with this thread to see how people were getting on.

There's not a lot to say that doesn't sound OTT or potentially cruel to those who are still in the waiting game (been there, it's awful despite going through a lot less than you) but know that reading your post this morning has made me very happy. Congratulations 😊

Thank you @susiebluebell and I am so very happy for you too.

You have always been someone that has without fail cheered people on and I have always admired your ability to be so positive when it must have been very hard at times too do so.

xxxx

@Mustkeepgoing2 Big hugs 😊 and enjoy this time for all it's worth xx

@OneDay86 I don't get my results until September annoyingly, was supposed to be August but we are away & I couldn't make the original appointment! We were so glad it was only a month difference lol. I'll let you know how it's going.
Said holiday starts at the end of the week and I'm due my period today so hoping its over by Friday haha.

If anyone can still see this page... well we still don't have any bloody answers 🙄
Our appointment got cancelled! Yay.

Hope you're all well & that you're absent because you're pregnant 🥰

@re6ecca aww that’s so frustrating! Can’t believe after all this time they’ve cancelled it. Have they given you a new appointment date?

I’ve got a bit of an update too. After what felt like a very long year and one month since my last miscarriage - I finally got pregnant again! Sadly it ended a couple of weeks ago in another early loss at 5.5 weeks. This was my 3rd loss, with my previous ones at 4 weeks and 9 weeks.

I’ve taken some positives away from it though, I’m hoping my endometriosis surgery has helped make a difference as it was less than 2 months since my op removed stage 1/2 endo that I fell pregnant, after waiting over a year before that. I’m really hoping I can fall pregnant quicker now than last time.

We’ve also just recently reached the top of the nhs ivf waiting list. Had my first appointment last week for all my blood tests etc. Have a follow up on the 3rd to get results and hopefully start booking in treatment dates 🤞 So I’m not ready to give up yet! Still hoping that one day we’ll have our baby here in our arms ❤️ Interestingly I fell pregnant this time with my first non medicated cycle in months. I had just had my last Clomid cycle the month before, which was another fail. So was a complete surprise.

Anyway, hope everyone is doing well wherever they are in their TTC journey. Sending lots of love x

Hey @re6ecca I've still got this thread on my watchlist so anytime someone posts, I see it. Good to read an update from you although frustrating that your appointment was cancelled! Onward and up?

And @OneDay86 really good to see the positivity in your post as well. Exciting that you're at the top of the ivf list!