TTC May/June - may the eggs be ever in your favour

[CycloGoose]

A continuation from previous threads. All welcome! We've had some lovely graduates and there's some of us been here for a while. Join us for rants, ovary pep talks, motivational memes, poas addictions, freak outs, chill months and good old compassion.

May the eggs be ever in your favour!

@kaylsd
@minthumbugs
@iloveoreos
@Kitty0389
@els10

And many more - I'll post link in the old chat!

@CycloGoose wow that's quite the bombshell from your OH :-O . I hope you're ok with that, it's a lot to take in.

I think I did ovulate either yesterday or the day before (CD9 or CD10) - I have to admit that the BD was a little forced this week as I've been super stressed with work. We tried to make it as fun as we could... So onto the TWW for me, feels like I'm constantly in it!
No results on the SA yet, hoping we will hear from the GP soon as that will obviously change our plans a bit.
@minthumbugs I hope AF stays away and it's your lucky month.
@Kaylsd thanks so much for sharing your journey. I hope your cycles settle and things work out.

@CycloGoose whaaaaat?! Your hubby?! That's a bit of a bombshell 😱 in 3 months time will that be you at around a year TTC? Glad you got some info on IVF, sounds like you've pretty much made your mind up. Will you try private first and then if no luck do NHS after? No AF yet but definitely on the way. I actually wish it would just hurry up and get it over with, I have been so irritable and emotional the last few days and I know it will be a physical relief 😭 my big project at work has finally come to an end thank god 🥳 so if AF comes today I'll have the full new beginnings feeling. X

Ohhh @Kitty0389 back again so soon. Good luck this time round 🤞🏻 we're only human lol, DTD can only be so fun when it becomes a chore! Hope your results come back soon. X

@kaylsd sorry missed your post, was on a previous page. It could be related to low progesterone actually, I had longer cycles and longer LPs before MC but have pretty much always had a bit of spotting before AF. I know low progesterone is linked to early miscarriages but not sure where I stand with that as my last one was later on in the pregnancy... Still no test results back, so don't know anymore about what caused it. Love the lyrics ❤️

Thank you @Tangfastic91. X

@Cyclogoose drop the mic that's abit of a bombshell to place! I hope your okay hunny? I'm sorry to hear your cycle has gone abit wonky after MC they do say it can do that though sometimes? I can't say from personal experience but I'm sending hugs! You can pay for private fertility screen on behalf of you both and I'm sure a private consultation with a fertility clinic is around roughly 200 pound I've heard from many people on here? There's also packages where you can be refunded if unsuccessful but I'm hoping it won't come to that, do you feel abit better now you've attended that webinar and have abit more insight? Can you get a second opinion from a GP to be referred before you go privately as you've got indications of problems? As my GPS sent ours and we've been trying the same length :(?

@Kitty0389 thank you darling I like being open and transparent about these things as it's such a taboo where little people talk about infertility -
Terms of us we are really positive, gonna have a blow out this week then we're both trying different ways lifestyle to try and improve before hubs next SA in august, got my covid vac booked in as i may aswell get it out of the way and I'll be all dosed up by august too!

@CycloGoose
Remember summer being a positive on the readings? I wish they saw this rollercoaster coming 🤣🤣🤣 we've told both side of parents we are getting referred into fertility clinic but going forward we won't be disclosing details as it's personal and quite emotional with the next steps ahead we will inform of positive news if it comes to it but we don't want to talk about the things inbetween, they just turned round and said they don't know what to say 👀 you know what his side are like track history, his mum said swiftly after that how half of her street have new born babies now, my face were like 🙃🙃🙃 do you have no filter

But we are going to remain positive the best we can as it's out of our control 🥰 plus I've got my internet sisterhood to rant to if I need to ;)

Hope everyone is alright ladies, just getting sorted this morning before I work next 4, hubs taking me out for a afternoon date day inside a restaurant shut the front door it's been too long 🤣🤣🤣

[quote minthumbugs]@kaylsd sorry missed your post, was on a previous page. It could be related to low progesterone actually, I had longer cycles and longer LPs before MC but have pretty much always had a bit of spotting before AF. I know low progesterone is linked to early miscarriages but not sure where I stand with that as my last one was later on in the pregnancy... Still no test results back, so don't know anymore about what caused it. Love the lyrics ❤️

Thank you @Tangfastic91. X[/quote]
How longs it been since you had the tests done darling could it be worth ringing up to see if they have gone missing? I know within our nhs trust bloods tend to get reported between 2-3 working days, scans are around 7 days depending on which scan, and sample analysis is around 7 days, don't worry about missing the post (worry pls cry your eyes out I'm well upset ;)) naaa I'm kidding we always get back to each other when we can :D I hope we all get some answers soon because been stuck in the land of unknown is rubbbishhhhhh, sending hugs

It was when I was in hospital just after the MC @kaylsd, so well over 4 months ago now! I think they mentioned something about 20 weeks seems to have stuck in my head but it's been just over 20 I think now. Maybe you can help as you used to work in that setting, do you know where I would phone? They did say the tests would be sent to a different hospital as well so that confuses things further 🙈

@minthumbugs

It was when I was in hospital just after the MC *@kaylsd*, so well over 4 months ago now! I think they mentioned something about 20 weeks seems to have stuck in my head but it's been just over 20 I think now. Maybe you can help as you used to work in that setting, do you know where I would phone? They did say the tests would be sent to a different hospital as well so that confuses things further 🙈

@minthumbugs Ring the pathology lab of the trust they said the results they were sent to incase your GP does not have access to the same result data record, as my trust only deals with tests from my trust and not external :) if they have them back ask them to forward the results to your GP

If it's for MC, we used to send things off for cytogenetic testing so im presuming it would be similar testing following miscarriage if they say they don't know which results they are looking for xx

Thank you so much @kaylsd! 😘 I've just been on an investigation on the phone to about 100 different departments being passed about, no one seemed to know what to do with me. But eventually I got a lovely lady who is going to email a consultant and hopefully they will phone me back next week 🤞🏻

He said it in a very caring way ladies. It was all in the past and would have stayed there other than the fact it was very relevant. It's over a grand more for the icsi which would mean we wouldn't want to go for it (because it's likely to need more than one cycle). We're essentially saying we're willing to put the money in for two cycles this year and then have the NHS one when we become eligible. I felt quite sorry for him and the girls. The recent one was someone he'd been seeing off tinder and it must have been horrible for them both and even more horrible for him now he's stuck in a situation where he wants a baby and isn't getting one. We had a really good chat afterwards and I was just so pleased he opened up really. He was obviously anxious about saying anything because he didn't want to hurt my feelings but I don't think I really feel all that much about other than sorry anyone had to go through that. We had a huge todo at the beginning of our relationship because his most previous ex was very much on the scene - they're in a band together - I'd have been mortified if it was her - that was very complicated but all resolved now and she's marrying the other former eligible bachelor from the band tomorrow!

So yeah, I'm fine and I think we'll get there! It makes more sense why he was more reluctant with the supplements etc - he has every reason to believe his sperm are good. It's bloody typical though isn't it! I've told him he has to put his super sperm to better use then! No more excuses on the DTD front. Every. Other. Day. Thank-you-sir!

@kaylsd I can't get early referral as low ovarian reserve doesn't qualify plus my FSH is normal. So it's a case of get referred at 12 months but local people saying they're only just now booking in December referrals into gynae.
It's really expensive down here! £200 wouldn't get me much at all but I've had most of the blood tests and when you book in for an initial consultation you pay for that and they do the scan which is mostly focused on the antral follicle count. So long as that looks alright, we'll be accepted but I'm a bit borderline as to whether I'll be accepted or not. They need AMH to be 12+ and mine is 12.3 so just hoping my follicles look alright!
What is WRONG with your MIL. Bitch needs a slap!
I've been reading a lot about the Covid jab and ovulation and it's moved into #1 suspect position for causing a delay. I've attached my chart and you can see that it had a massive effect on me because I'd had paracetamol and everything before bed. Inflammation can have a big impact on ovulation so I reckon it's that. I was really rough with it. Think I have quite a strong immune response to stuff. I always get ill but recover quickly. Suspect #2 is b6 and sneaky suspect #3... STRESS. Oh it's been a week alright!
Enjoy your amazing afternoon treat and hope you don't get shipped off to outer Mongolia for your rounds over next 4 days! Xxx

@minthumbugs 🥂 cheers to new beginnings and project completion! We've just had all new windows this week so house as almost done. It's a great feeling. We were supposed to be cycle buddies this time 😂 I still hope it's implantation and not AF but you know your body best. Yeah it will be the year which doesn't seem that long but I just think it's time to bite the bullet. Obviously hoping for a miracle in between ☺️
Sorry about the results. I empathise with you not wanting to chase it up as well under the circumstances but I hope they're able to give you some closure soon lovely.

@kitty0389 🤞 it's the last TWW for you! Hope the results come through all clear. How is the extension going?

Just seen update @minthumbugs good work!

@minthumbugs

Thank you so much *@kaylsd*! 😘 I've just been on an investigation on the phone to about 100 different departments being passed about, no one seemed to know what to do with me. But eventually I got a lovely lady who is going to email a consultant and hopefully they will phone me back next week 🤞🏻

You're welcome darling I'm so glad you've finally got to the right area for you to get the answers you deserve and been waiting for quite sometime, I know sometimes things can take some time but it's always good to do a little nudge in the system between if no news🥰 🤞🏻

@CycloGoose is that £1000 per go? That is a lot. Wow I bet that's been hanging over him during your journey so far so he will be relieved now it's out in the open. You've taken it like a champ! And also with his ex being involved, that's crazy - but seems as if it's worked out for them all in the end. Now just to get that next step sorted for you guys 🥰 every man thinks they have super sperm 🙄😉 my OH used to joke that we were super fertile, 3 pregnancies in 3 years! Hopefully he hasn't jinxed us 😩😂
That's 2 months in a row we were supposed to be cycle buddies, damn bodies haha. Hopefully your body will start catching up now after all the disruption with MC and vaccine,
. Your temp looks low now, do you think that could be it?

@kaylsd so the midwife that looked after me phoned and I now have an appointment booked in with a consultant next week! Honestly thank you for the info it gave me the push I need to chase it up, I had no idea of any of the words you said in your message but I just threw them in there and it got me somewhere 🙈 I hope they actually have the results and they're not just phoning to tell me to wait a bit longer, but surely a consultant wouldn't phone just to tell you that I'm thinking?! It's been a long time coming, as much as I'm dreading it I'm looking forward to getting it over with. X

The cheapest I've found IVF for is 2500 but it's an extra 1200 for icsi (where they inject the best looking sperm into the egg) @minthumbugs
So glad Kayls has helped you break through the barrier. A horrible but helpful conversation to be had I'm sure.
I went all the way to 36.13 last time so who knows to be honest! Ov tomorrow would be ideal but probably more like next week now.

@CycloGoose

How's everyone doing? So glad it's Friday!

@minthumbugs did AF arrive? Really hope not.

@kaylsd that sodding pill has a lot to answer for! How are you both feeling?

@Kitty0389 did you ovulate earlier as expected? How did it go with the SA?

@mammaj21 what are your thoughts on ov?

I've not ovulated. Lowest temp yet today but I'm feeling good it's Friday. We're back on the DTD wagon. Went to an IVF webinar last night and that's spurred us into action.

We've kind of settled on a plan which is to test my dhea levels and supplement if it looks likely to help. We'll try that probably for 3 months and then move on to IVF if no joy. Try up to 2 cycles self-funded so can have the third with NHS still.

Were talking about icsi and the extra cost of that but hubs is confident in his swimmers since he's impregnated two different women before! Neither of whom I knew about until yesterday. One in his teens but also one in his thirties 🤦🏼‍♀️ At least he's talking now!

Hey. I'm glad you're feeling ok about the oh and had a good talk!

Still no ov for me! very strange! So confussing. maybe I'm just not going to ov this month 🤷‍♀️

Happy weekend everyone x

Wow @CycloGoose almost half the price added on! I always used to think ICSI would be the cheaper option but it makes sense. Hope it's tomorrow for you 🤞🏻

Same for you @mammaj21, have you been doing BBT or anything this month?

Still no full flow for me, kinda annoying timing as the later it goes, ovulation will be poor timing in June. Planning to visit family (restrictions going well!), but bubs will be sharing a room with us and also the walls are thin AF 🤣🙈

If anyone's around, please feel free to tell me that there is no shadow where a line would be 🤣 defo BFN?

😲 I can see something but slightly to the right of where I was anticipating seeing it. Omg omg omg. Please let it be pink pink pink xxxxxxxxxxxx

@CycloGoose I think that's where I saw a wee sliver too. I was properly squinting at it 🤣🤦‍♀️ just caved because still no AF! I don't have my hopes up though. Xx

@minthumbugs you might be graduating! 👩‍🎓🤣🥂 I'm so hopeful on your behalf since you're not getting yours up!
Tried to do it on the negative generator and I do think it's there lovely. Crossing everything xxx

@CycloGoose I think I see a bit of something with full brightness brow full of wrinkles zoomed in staring at it 🤣 I honestly don't know. It's good when you take a test and are no further forward 🙄 I have one test left in the box so if AF doesn't arrive by Sunday I'll use it!

@minthumbugs
Just popping by to say... that looks very promising.
Xxxxxxx

There must have been nothing there! Tried again this morning and can't see anything, more brown spotting for me too. Sorry for the excitement 🤣 X

Gahhh @minthumbugs I'm sorry and sorry for adding to your hopefulness. I couldn't restrain myself!

I've gone from yoyo to how low can you go do the limbo! 36.11 today 🤣

@minthumbugs I’m glad I could be of a little bit of assistance for you darling you know I’m always here if you need anything if there’s anything you don’t quite understand I’ll try my best to help, I know it might be hard whatever the outcome will be to hear but you’ve got us behind you each step of the way and you can find strength even in the most testing of times, I’m sorry I’ve just missed the abit of a could be moment from working those bloody indent lines are like older children who tell younger ones about Santa - absolute arseholes 🤣🤣 I know our protocol from discussing results they do tend to come from the Registrar or above grades which is a good thing I guess that a consultant is doing it because your getting the bees knees of the grades telling you what you’ve been waiting for all this time 💖

@Cyclogoose I never realised the price of things I know one of my friends have recently gave birth to a beautiful baby girl from ICSI on second round, hopefully with your hubs history you might not need the extra top up support? Have you contacted local clinics to get the ball rolling from consultation points of views? Have you looked into the percentage rates of things and compared? I know there’s so many things to take onboard which can be overwhelming, whatever the outcome your virtual sisterhood are here each step of the way 💖 I can’t believe your chart hunny i think from doing the Hokey Cokey, now limbo, tomorrow it might even be up there to do a oops ups side your head song 🤣🤣🤣 let’s hope it behaves soon! I’m apparently CD 18, noted one bit of EWCM so took advantage of that, however I still don’t feel confident with ovulation side of things however baby dancing is a lot less pressured which has done wonders for our relationship it’s actually brought back the fun for things rather than the slight strain TTC can bring :’) we had a giggle earlier cause of my OPK HPT stash in the bathroom draw hub goes I’ve tided it up abit n bobbed them just down side I goes it doesn’t matter no doubt they’ll see some dust grow on them for first time in 9 month 🙈🙈 hope your having a stress free weekend! 💖💖

@mammaj21 fingers and toes crossed ovulation is just round the corner for you, I’ve had some cycles where I’ve ovulated late right up until about cd 27 👀👀👀 let’s hope it’s not the same case for you! Hope your having a lovely weekend!

Busy day at work ladies, going to settle tonight with homemade curry and homemade chips with all the sundries like pakoras and naans 😋 have a lovely weekend ladies xxx

@minthumbugs I've never done bbt...maybe I should look into it. I feel it'll stress me out though... another thing to think about!
Sorry you tester again this morn...but maybe see what happens over next couple of days. I know what you mean about timing... it's hard to dtd to a schedule and frustrating when something gets in the way. Still no signs of ov for me...strange.

@CycloGoose seems like you are on a bit of a rollercoaster there.
@kaylsd oh wow...day 27...how long after that did AF take to arrive? I'm certainly no pro at this at all but I'm sure I do usually ov around mid cycle so really wondering if the dark line I had was it...but didn't quite seem dark enough. but since...nothing anywhere near. So strange. Enjoy the curry !