Recent MC - New cycles & trying again Thread 2

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A thread for all the amazing strong ladies who have recently experienced a mc/mmc but are braving it to try again! Fingers crossed for a lucky one for us 🍀

Thanks @Jujujuberry thats why after I'm happy my cycles are normalised I'm going to stop tracking over the summer so I can jsut enjoy summer and not worry about it. I think the pressure is too much otherwise and the body goes into defence mode. Hopefully one day I'll look back at all this and smile xx

I’m with you on that @AMS19 good plan to enjoy the summer and have a loose idea of when to dtd, but otherwise have fun and live life to the fullest! I did some white water rafting when I got pregnant with my 2nd! Haha so extreme fun is good 😂

Good morning everyone, I hope you are all feeling OK today x
Congratulations @Seasalt1984 that's is so exciting! Xx

I took another hcg test last night and still positive, I'm attaching a pic as I'm really not sure there has been any change in the levels, they all look the same and not getting fainter. The bottom one was taken a week after ercp and the others were closer to two weeks after. The top two were from last night which is closer to three wks after ercp. Will ring the epau this morning and fill them in.
I also took another LH test and it was fairly high but not quite peak, maybe that is the Hcg levels keeping it high.

I am feeling very period like symptoms so I definitely don't think anything happened during ovulation, I'm not overly surprised as with my positive hcg tests and still light bleeding I thought it would be a miracle if I fell pregnant. I was definitely hopeful though 😏

Thank you for your kind thoughts this morning ❤️
First I spoke to my lovely GP who told me that the HCG is falling as I expected due to the heavy bleeding. She made me feel so much better saying that it was so positive how we fall pregnant so easily, our daughter is still so little so we achieved a healthy pregnancy not long ago etc. She also gave us a fall back idea of IVF where they test the embryos they get for genetic issues and only try putting the good ones back- not something to think about yet perhaps, but good to know it's an option.

So I went quite merrily to the scan. The consultant wasn't as positive though and it's made my spirits flop. I was so hoping to get pregnancy tissue to test but she couldn't see anything on the screen so it's either gone down the toilet already despite my careful hunting, or it's landed somewhere else. She thinks it's the former and not ectopic but it's labelled 'failing pregnancy of unknown location', so I've had to have yet another HCG and they will ring this afternoon to let me know what to do next.
I practically begged her to give me something positive to cling on to and she did say that the getting pregnant isn't an issue and the same as the GP about us having a 17month old. But she said 'I don't have a crystal ball' and 'you could have another 4 miscarriages' (I didn't like that bit) ...'or the next one could be fine- we don't know'. So not unkind @SuzieDeLaTour but not exactly kind either.

So I drove home feeling so so sad and thought I'd cheer myself up with a bacon roll from Greggs (literally my first ever Greggs and been eating SO healthily for this pregnancy) and I got to the counter and they had stopped serving bacon rolls ☹️ so now I'm sitting at home with a very substandard Belgian bun. Oh and the whole time I was in the Greggs queue I was paranoid I'd bled on the back of my skirt from the internal scan. I haven't had the courage to check yet. Plus when I left the services a huge dirty raindrop from the guttering went straight in my eye.

This is not a good day. 😢

Forgot to add @Seasalt1984 this is flipping amazing news!!! I'm so happy for you xx

@Seasalt1984 congratulations!!

@glowingtwig it's definitely positive you can get pregnant and that you have a recent successful pregnancy! How far gone were you this time? I know when I've had miscarriages about five weeks I haven't been able to get any tissue. Only when I've had d&c or erpc. Not that that helps you. Just showing solidarity in the difficulty of getting it!

@Cienega if your hcg is still positive 3 weeks from ERPC I would be phoning epu. Mine was 3 weeks today and I got a v faint line last Sunday and then negative when I checked today.

Congrats @Seasalt1984

@AMS19 I think you need to tell your hubby to calm down - I think SMEP sounds more than generous 😂
@Cienega it took me around 4 weeks post ERPC to get a negative on a cheapie (I was 10w5d at op but baby stopped growing at 8w4) and I think 5 or so weeks to get a negative FRER so try not to worry too much - although I agree it will be good to flag it up to your EPU just so you’re under their observation x
@glowingtwig oh my girl what a sh*t day you’ve had! I’m so sorry that it’s turned out the way it has. The consultant at your EPU sounds awful!! Yes it’s her job to be honest but she can sod off with her “I’m no mystic Meg” BS. There’s a little thing called compassion 🙄 Your body has done this before, not so long ago, so you need to focus on that and know you’re capable of doing it again. when is your appointment with Prof Regan? I really hope she can give you the answers you so desperately need 😘 i also hope the Belgian bun turned out better than expected. I’m planning on going wild and buying myself a mega tub of ice cream which I don’t plan on sharing with anyone else...it’s the small things!! 😀 x

Oh @glowingtwig I'm sorry that does sound like a totally rubbish day. Your GP is so right about your daughter being young and that meaning your chances are good. All it takes it one egg!! Im assuming there are still lots of tests they can do even without the embryo? I really think next time it will work. I really do! But for now, it's all about you and making yourself emotionally and mentally better xx

@Seasalt1984 congrats x

@glowingtwig sorry the consultant wasn't helpful, did she mention anything about going forward and other testing or anything? Take the time out to rest up today and enjoy the Belgian bun, it's definitely positive that you're able to get pregnant x

Afternoon ladies. I'm wiped out. CD12 for me and the last two days I've had EWCM with some blood specs in? Have been bone dry as of last night though, god knows what's going on. Feeling deflated and upset, today was supposed to me my private scan 🤷🏻‍♀️

@cupcakesandglitter I'm sorry scan days are so hard arent they! The last 2 cycles my ewcm has had some blood mixed with it too. Sounds like your body is ramping up for ovulation. When do you usually ovulate? Are you TTC this cycle?

@yepstilltrying I was just under 6 weeks when I started bleeding, 5 and 4 I think when the HCG stopped going up as it should, so really early again. I suppose I should be grateful that it's early and therefore this one should be easy to resolve. Doesn't feel any better though. My mum has this really annoying habit of ignoring how pregnancy weeks are calculated and says things like 'oh so you were only two weeks' pregnant'. Feels like she's minimising the impact of it somehow. So sad not to get tissue though... just want some definite answers.

@SuzieDeLaTour your Mystic Meg comment made me giggle! I know, I've got enough negative thoughts of my own thanks Dr Consultant, I don't need to hear yours aired. Prof Regan's secretary is doing that thing she does where she goes dark and I don't get a reply for ages. So I've no idea how long I'll have to wait to see her now. I'm not sure if I have to wait 6 weeks after a mc for the tests I missed due to being toooo impatient to wait. Feel like I've really shot myself in the foot cracking on ttc and now I've delayed everything further.

Thanks @AMS19 and @cupcakesandglitter I missed some tests I couldn't have due to being pregnant so I need to catch those up now and make myself wait this time. Though the thought of missing potentially a good egg for a few months is agonising. I feel like I'm constantly scrabbling around in the dark to guess at the right thing to do and getting it wrong every time at the moment.

@AMS19 they really are, I'd forgotten until I'd seen it in my calendar ☹️ usually I ovulate super late, between CD20-30 (irregular cycle lengths) but always late, never this early at all. We did manage to DTD twice but I'm not hopeful at all, we are TTC though. I so badly want to be pregnant again, it's like an ache that won't go away. I keep having flashes of being scanned by myself and the sonographer saying the baby has already passed 😓

@glowingtwig I can imagine how conflicting it is - would there be any harm in TTC but also doing the tests as well so either way you'd kind of have an answer? Or would you rather wait for the test results? What's your gut saying? X

Hi ladies.

I've been pretty absent on here, have been trying my best to stay off mumsnet and Google!

6 weeks today but really struggling to stay hopeful as a week ago I had some red spotting (no pain and it was gone very quickly) and then today I was cleaning the bathroom and felt like I had trapped wind which turned into fanny and bum daggers (not sure how else to describe them) so went and sat down for a bit... Had a pretty big fart but then when I went to the toilet I had some brown spotting again! Sounds ridiculous when I write it down but I'm just constantly waiting for the worst to happen!

I was really just starting to relax and think maybe I would get good news at my scan on Thursday but I'm just sure I won't.

I've had no more pain or anything and symptoms are still strong but I'm just so anxious and worried the entire time.

Sorry to come on here and moan but most of you have been with me since the start and I didn't know where else to go! 💕

Hope everyone is okay, I'll go catch up on the thread now!

Ahhh @Pettylamby this was always going to be a totally shitty experience. Unfortunately early pregnancy will never be fun or enjoyable for us, just full of dread and anxiety. Honeslty I bet if you were feeling absolutely nothing you'd be stressed that you couldn't feel stretching stretching tugging! I know how scary this all is but there is every chance baby it fine. God, with your sticks, it could even be twins!! Less than a week to go xx

Thanks for your lovely messages ladies ❤ I did a CB digital this eve with DH and it came up pregnant 1-2, nice to see it in black and white. Very much trying to focus on "one day at a time" as best I can!

@mellous this is first month we didn't do SMEP we've both been knackered with work and needed a break from it. We DTD 3 nights in a row over a weekend (when I had EWCM) and think I ovulated on the Monday. I really wasn't expecting it!! With previous pregnancy we conceived when doing SMEP, so def worth a go!

@Pettylamby keeping absolutely everything crossed for your early scan lovely🤞🙏

@glowingtwig oh lovely I'm so sorry you've had a tough day. It's horrible when you just want some reassurance and a straight talking doctor won't go there! Not helpful! There will absolutely be better days ahead, sending love and hugs xxx

Thank you @AMS19! I know Thursday is soon but it feels sooooo far away! In my panic I was even looking to see if I could get a private scan before then! I do just have to remind myself that I bled heavily at the start and it appears baby held on, so this brown spotting could just be from an irritated cervix or anything! I am just terrified of another loss and keep doubting my body! ☹️

@Pettylamby oh god it's so far away and so bloody hard! Absolutely! But 6 days to go, then tomorrow its 5 days to go, and thats totally doable. By this time next week you'll have a much cleaer picture. Brown spotting is really good! It's old blood so sounds even more like implantation. I know nothing I say will make this any easier, but we are all here for you rooting you on xx

@glowingtwig I am so so sorry to hear what you've been going through. Sending you the absolute biggest hugs. 💕

@Pettylamby I absolutely understand how you are feeling. I've been feeling exactly the same, questioning anything and everything I do and anything can send me into a bit of a spiral of anxiety at the moment. Please don't feel like you are being ridiculous at all, you've been through something traumatic so it's normal to have worry and anxiety. I know you know, but spotting in early pregnancy is so common with implantation and the cervix being more easily irritated, and as it brown spotting it is old blood with leans into either of these explanations. As @AMS19 said it will be Thursday in no time, but I am absolutely keeping everything crossed for you.

@SeaSalt1984 that's amazing news, congratulations.

@glowingtwig urgh emotions are so hard when your happy one min then someone pulls you down the next! Try to forgot the words of the consultant and focus on how lovely your gp was, and that your body can carry a pregnancy to full term ❤️ Also don't beat yourself up for getting pregnant again its only natural, and fantastic you can do it! P.s grrrr at that horrid raindrop from the gutter!!!

@Pettylamby oh gosh I can see why your feeling a bit anxious, but brown discharge is old so probably nothing to worry over. Xx Come on sticky bean, hold on 👏

Nothing to report my end, just in the tww, have thrush which is uncomfortable but using a little bit cream to hopefully clear it. Sorry tmi!

@Jujujuberry also in the argh tww currently only 4 dpo so a way to go. But I'm not feeling hopeful, with one thing and another dh only dtd twice butt at least it was day before and day of.

Congrats @Seasalt1984 it gives hope!

And I'm really sorry @glowingtwig that treatment sounds terrible. Xx

@Pettylamby can imagine how anxious it is right now god time passes so slowly sometimes eh? Hang in there xx

@cupcakesandglitter I think I need to do what I'm told this time because getting pregnant so quickly after each miscarriage isn't working out at all. So hard as it is I'm going to have to try to put it to one side and not think about ttc for a few months.
@AMS19 I should probably come off mumsnet for a while once this mc is over but please tag me in the next threads 😍 talking to you ladies through it all has been such a lifeline. Still hoping we can all meet one day with our rainbow babies.

It is so so hard @Pettylamby but brown spotting that goes away is really not a bad sign in my experience. My gp even said today that spotting was something she experienced every two weeks through her healthy pregnancy. But I know that it doesn't help when it's not you. Just a day at a time and your scan will be here and will hopefully reassure you.

Thank you so much @Seasalt1984 wishing you so many good things for you over the next few weeks!

Thank you also @PlantMummy87 definitely in need of hugs today.

@Pettylamby ahh love unfortunately a miscarriage robs you of being able to relax in bliss during the first 12 weeks but it sounds like you’ve got a sticky little camper in there so try not to drive yourself crazy with worry (easier said than done I know!) sounds like this little one just likes to keep you on your toes 😚 Thursday will be here before you know it - just make sure you keep yourself busy and distracted over the weekend xx