TTC 35+ Thread 7

[sickofthisyear]

New thread- apologies for the unimaginative title!

@sickofthisyear and everyone here sending you all lots of love.

I’m 9dpo and spotting. I do this every month. Hoping my referral also finds a reason for this. I spotted 8 days before my period last month!!!

Sending lots of love to @sickofthisyear and everyone struggling today. I don't know about you but my Facebook feed is full of friends posting photos of their kids and saying how much they love being mummies. Fingers crossed that will be us next year so we don't have to feel like this xxx

@LT103 it's probably way back on this thread somewhere but vitamin B6 was discussed as being good for the luteal phase! @Loladoodle recommended it to me originally to stop my pre-AF spotting. I've been taking 50 mg a day all through my cycle, together with B complex and folic acid (and other vits) and so far, so good! Xxx

First month trying opk. Yesterday, day 8 nothin. Today v faint line but premon gave a 0, is that usual?

Ohhh @selina37 that’s interesting. I take folic acid and vit d just now. So do you take it daily right through whole cycle? Any particular brand?

@LT103 I take 50mg of B6 (as recommended by @Loladoodle) from Holland & Barrett in the morning on an empty stomach with b complex and folic acid, vit c and vit d. Then I take ubiquinol and vit e with food containing a little fat.

I think it helps progesterone in the LP and helps the body get rid of oestrogen. Seems to be helping pms symptoms! Xx

And yes, every day through cycle. ☺️

@selina37 so take b complex and extra b6?
I’m going to Holland and Barrett tomorrow haha

@selina37 (and @loladoodle) thank you so much

Yep, apparently the b vitamins work better in conjunction with each other 🙂

What a lovely bunch of ladies ☺️ I hope everyone is doing ok today, I’m sure it can be a very sensitive day for many x

@selina37 and @LT103 yes I am a B6 advocate 😅 couldn’t get through a month without it! So good for pms and also has extra ttc benefits for LP/spotting 👍 gives a bit of energy too I believe

Hope everyone’s ok today, difficult day for many 🙏

@climbershell I've only had faint lines and low scores using the premom tests and app. No idea when or if I've ovulated!

@Noodella18 I use easy @ home. I guess it doesn't matter if the app reads them properly if I can see changes & have a better idea of when ovulating is... Bit annoying tho!

Tbh dtd 8,10,12-15 should cover all bases, I mean possibly ov cd16 (guessing day 13-15/16) but shouldn't ever be later than then based on CM

@climbershell I use the easy@home opks. I have a rapid surge so mine hover around the 0.1 level until the day of the surge when they shoot up to 1.4 - 2.0. Occasionally I might get some warning with a 0.4 the day before, but often I don't. So I would say 0 on cd8 is completely normal if you aren't expecting to ovulate until around cd16.

I've only not checked messages since yesterday and there are so many!

I hope you lovely ladies are all ok, especially today. It can be so hard for so many. Fingers crossed that you will be celebrating this time next year and be proud of how much work and love you are putting in to get there xx

Thanks for everyone who replied re the gluten. I got a bit peeved of the consultant and acupunctarist making suggestions based on some medical trials but neither suggesting I get a progesterone or gluten allergy test... Instead I'm just told to go totally gluten free and take progesterone (which I'll have to pay for privately and they go up your bum btw...! ) on what feels like a whim. I feel like I fell in a gap really, my drs don't know what's going on because I paid to see a consultant privately for bloods after my second miscarriage and my consultant is private so I only had one appointment... The general consensus on here re the gluten seems to be moderation is fine and I think that's sensible. I've cut back on most things that contain gluten but I've decided to not going to go crazy. I am going to look into how much a private test costs though to test for a gluten allergy just incase I think they're pretty cheap...

@thislittlebird what book is it you're reading on the gut? It sounds interesting. And yes, I haven't heard of anyne else cutting out gluten either. From the research I've done gluten can cause infertility and miscarriage but the evidence so far is only if you have an allergy, there haven't been studies yet on the impact of intlorerences. As if we haven't already got a million other things were trying to research and make changes for already!

@Noodella18 Thanks for sharing your expereince of naturopaths. I have never noticed I have had a bad experience to gluten. I have a lactose intolence but that it as far as i'm aware.

@twelvestars you're right, especially as for me I think a huge factor with fertility has been stress so a drastic change of going totally gluten free when I don't need to would be counterproductive potenitally. I feel really conflicted on it tbh as I want to do everything I can but then likewise have to balance with potential stress.

@TTCat39 and @Noodella18 sorry to hear you're having a bad month. If it helps at all I've had a couple like you describe, January/February were particulary bad and it was just all consuming. Couldn't sleep and it all just built up, I was just sad all the time and couldn't picture myself being happy. The hard thing was I felt so incredibly angry at my partner too. Angry we didn't start trying sooner, angry we were dtd the wrong times, I was having to intiate all the time, I was the one doing all the research and he had one job to do for a few days a month and he wasn't. You name it I was angry about it! Lockdown makes it all worse too. I found this group has helped me just realise I'm not alone in it all. I hope it's reasurring to know others have been there too and I hope the cloud passes for you soon xx

Its been lovely reading some of the stories of when you met your partners and the whirlwind romances :)

@sickofthisyear thinking of you and sending love.

@M4v3r1ck - I tested yesterday and it was darker so that's a good sign. I restrained from testing today, my period is due in two days so I think I'll test tomorrow again. I've had a couple of losses before so don't think I'll be able to relax in the slightest until I'm past those dates really... Still googling and symptom spotting, for example been having cramps and more cm so just praying everything is ok and this little bean sticks!

Wow that was a long reply!

@climbershell yes sorry I meant easy@home tests and premom app. Not sure if you were talking about yourself or my ov in your second para? We only dtd where the solid hearts are, so twice, the other hearts are sex drive (when my fella was out of action with the bug 🙈) Kind of wondering if we should give it another shot tonight.

@Noodella18 oh no I'm talking about myself with dtd lol

2ce could be enough! We all know once can be enough

@KG1145 pleased to hear line has got darker. Keeping fingers and toes crossed for you! Re the gluten thing, if you get a test for coeliacs you need to be eating gluten normally. My ex didn't ever get a proper diagnosis because he gave up gluten and was just a different person he was so much better, but then the doctor said the test wouldn't work unless he started eating gluten for 6 weeks and it would have made him so poorly that he couldn't do it. So if you want that kind of test get it before you give up the pasta! Not sure about any intolerance tests though.

@climbershell aha ok good! Sounds like you smashed it, well done! I have no idea if I've even ovulated, I think my wee is always too dilute to get a good read. What time of day are you doing yours. And @Kitekat81 what about you? I've been trying to test in the day but it's so hard not to drink much, would much prefer to test in the morning instead.

Thanks for the lovely thoughts everyone. It's actually been a nice day- had a little cry in the morning but DD made it special and I've been too busy to wallow too much. Also had a decent bit of wine 😁 but that's it now, am teetotal for foreseeable.
Hmm- just realised I'm due my second COVID vaccine in middle of fertile week 😕 I had my first dose in Jan knowing we would start TTC the next month 🤫, but this timing feels different. I will still have the vaccine, just worried it might affect our chances next month somehow. But no way to know I guess! 🤷🏻‍♀️ Hopefully I won't feel too lousy from it.

@KG1145 fingers crossed for darker lines over the next few days! 🤞🤞🤞

@Noodella18 I usually test 2x (sometimes 3x) per day when I think I'm getting near to ovulation. I'd rather do that then I don't worry about missing the peak, and I don't really worry too much about holding my pee for a certain number of hours before taking a test. I've sometimes had my peak in the morning so it can happen any time of day. If I were you I would do a morning test when you get up, but try and do another one later in the day as well.

@KG1145 glad your line is getting darker 🤞🏻 for you, af has arrived for me today so on to the next month for me!

I didn't add anything before about my partner and how we got together so here's us - we had both been married for 12 years in horrible relationships then finally separated and got bored sitting home in the evenings with the kids so on a whim joined pof to chat to people. We found each other (and some right old weirdos!) and started chatting, spoke for 6 months every day but hadn't met yet, then one night I went to a gig for a small band I liked and sent him a pic of me and my friend there - it was his cousins band! He came down to the pub we were in and we knew straight away. The rest is history really, moved in together after 10 months and it's now been just over 5 years - good old online dating lol