9DPO Symptom Spotting

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Hey @ButterscotchBabe! Continuing our chat here 😁

I loooove that your temps did exactly what mine did too. So good that AF hasn't arrived at CD26!! Happy for you! When your temps increased last month, was it is to a gradual high or did it jump up again and then AF started? Because if this pattern is new, it could mean good news!

Ours definitely look like the beginning of a triphasic chart. My temps last month started dropping at 7DPO, so it still being high at 9DPO is such an achievement for me and no sign of AF either although my vulva feels AF'y in a weird way. My pulse and breathing rate have also continued to shoot up!! If temps don't tell you AF is coming, pulse rate defo will because it always starts falling a few days before AF for me.

I do suspect chemical but no BFP so can't confirm and nothing else changed that cycle so I can't explain it. Hormones were defo the reason I never took the pill, it plays such a big part in changing your reproductive cycle that of course it would have an affect on cycles after you come off them! 45 day cycles sound like a nightmare - especially when TTC too.

I do have a FRER! I'm always so scared to use it though. I always use rubbish ICs which probably aren't the best thing but I will use my FRER with you!

I like predicting what my temps will do with DH. What do you think will happen tomorrow? I think both our temps will go up again 😆

Last night, my uterus and vagina felt so uncomfortable and I really struggled to sleep. So since I'm allowed to symptom spot, I'm going to get right to it! 😂 Have you ever heard of Early Pregnancy Factor? Apparently it's a protein that gets released shortly after sperm meets egg and it acts as an immunosuppressant so the body doesn't reject the embryo. I was sneezing last night as well as this morning when I woke up 😱 so I must have a suppressed immune system! I was also super bloated yesterday, have mild cramping and my limbs have been so achy. I think those symptoms are definitely conclusive and I must be with child 😂😂 To be fair, I've had cycles where I felt nothing and cycles where I've felt everything and it makes no difference as I'm never pregnant so I'm not expecting much this cycle. How are you feeling?? Any symptoms yet?

Haha do you remember to hide your toys too? My friend, who's male, told me he saw a rampant rabbit on his sisters bedside table and felt so awkward 😂😂 I usually have my vibrator lying around on my table (in fact I just turned my head to look at it right now) and I know there's going to be a day I forget to put it away and someone will see it! Oh well!

🕵️‍♀️🕵️‍♀️🕵️‍♀️ DH insists that it was a big load because he can apparently feel it as it comes out. I've inspected my bed - nothing. Inspected the crusty tissue I used to plug the sperm in - not much on there. Inspected my vagina at 0DPO - sufficiently coated with semen. I think the result of my investigation is - INCONCLUSIVE. But judging from all my symptoms, it must have all been gobbled up by my thirsty vagina and made a baby🍴

Hahaha 😂😂 Omg! All I can see in my head is my vagina's sucking mechanism doing a good job of sucking a drink up through a straw 😂😂😂 Hahaa you gave birth to your vibrator! That's brilliant! 😂 I haven't experienced anything like that. I remember when I was with my ex, I really wanted to be a bit kinky with him. I wore a cheap black thong and these cute net body stockings with big holes all over it and a hole in the crotch area. We were kissing and everything and was ready for the main event but I couldn't get the thong off because I had the body stocking over the top of it. So to add to the kinkyness, I got a pair of scissors and cut the thong away! The next day my little sister found my body stockings and realised what all the noise was about it 😂😂

I'm glad that I've learnt enough about my body to confirm ovulation without needing to chart BBT. Creamy CM is always immediate for me once ovulation is over. I'm really excited that it's thicker! It's good you have it too as that probably confirms ovulation for you as well! Since you don't check CM at the cervix, your EWCM could be left over from your fertile window maybe?

I love your proposal story! But when men plan such a big thing around it, it becomes so obvious a proposal is coming, so I'm not surprised you suspected! It still must have been a nice surprise on the 15th. If I was a guy, I'd probably propose in a similar way. Plan something big and extravagant and make the woman work herself up into a frenzy only to be disappointed that nothing happened 😂😂😂 Then I'll propose the day after! Haha!!

My dream proposal is nice and intimate. Casually chilling watching TV and having the question nonchalantly asked with a ring appearing like no-big-deal. And that's what I got! Except it was with my ex. It was the perfect proposal. He wanted to do it on New Years Day but couldn't wait, so he went upstairs and got himself dressed while I looked a hot mess. He presented me with a leather bookmark (so perfect!) that said "Will you marry me?" and my dream ring 😭😭 I broke off the engagement and when I was ready to be engaged again, I didn't want another proposal. So, although DH asked me a few times, we didn't start wedding planning until I felt ready.
I do have a ring but I don't wear it because I don't like it and it's too big for me. It's a long story and not DH's fault because we went together to choose the ring but the jeweller F'd it up!

Yeah, lots of skinny people get stretch marks! Even when I was borderline anorexic as a teenager I still had stretch marks around my thighs. They're normal. But with my boobs the size they are, strangely enough, I don't really have any on them. I think having big boobs that get shrivelled up from breastfeeding is worse! They'd become loose, saggy bags and touch your knees! 😂 I think yours would be better than mine. We'd have to compare in a few years time 😂😂

No, I didn't get to do much sightseeing. I was mostly in training but I was so jet lagged anyway that I didn't care to see much of San Francisco. DH went around by himself and really enjoyed it. I did cycle around the huge Google campus. That was fun. We also went to Napa Valley and did a wine tour. DH was in his element, of course. I didn't care for it but went to keep him company. Do you have to book the same accommodation as your family? Could you find somewhere close by but cheaper? £2400 total really is a lot. Even I'd hesitate to pay that.

Ha! No! The skateboard was mostly to look cool 😂😂 Couldn't ride it then and can't ride it now. What made you take up skateboarding? It's quite a niche thing to be into. I had roller skates too but was pretty rubbish. I agree. More quality time than gifts. I was actually reading a post on here where a woman felt that all she'd been reduced to is a mother. That before kids, she had a great social life, great body, great education, great job and threw it all away to be just a mother and now I'm worried women really can't have it all. I want to be present for my kids but I don't want to lose myself in motherhood. Have you thought about how you'd balance it all?

Fake it until you make it. Practice, practice, practice. That's all you can do. I felt so undeserving of my role because I knew I wasn't good enough but here I am, doing alright at it. Self doubt is normal but as long as you appear confident, then that's what people will see. They won't hear the voices in your head. I think go for it. You might surprise yourself. Plus not everyone wants to recruit an egomaniac. You might be the perfect fit for someone.

Good luck to your DP with the interview. Temporary is better than nothing and looks really good on a CV that initiative was taken to find work during this very difficult time.

Yeah, that's usually my logic when cutting my fabric pieces. You can make something bigger but not smaller. Hopefully it works out! Also, in the image, can you see how the neckline meets the centre front at 90 degrees? Line D is 90 degrees to the centre front and the neckline follows line D and stops at 90 degrees.

😂😂 you must be with child, it's the only explanation! I have seen lots of people saying they had cold like symptoms in the TWW before their BFP, so it could well be! I don't have any symptoms yet but like you I've had cycles with lots of symptoms and cycles with none, neither have ended with BFP!

We don't have any toys, that little vibrator thing was the only one we had and after that terrifying incident we threw it out and haven't bought anymore since! Haha I think a sibling seeing toys would be a bit embarrassing but it would be horrendous if a parent saw it 😱😱. When I left my ex I moved in with my Mum whilst looking for a flat, before moving in I threw away my toys as I couldn't bare the risk of her finding them!

Big load 😂😂 haha well the only reasonable conclusion is your baby hungry vagina has sucked it all up!

"Gave birth to your vibrator" Hahahaha 😂😂😂😂 Omg that's hilarious 😂😂. Unfortunately it was terrifying at the time, I just had visions of DP and I sat in the A&E waiting room with everyone wondering where the vibrating noise was coming from!! 🤦😂😂.

Oh no hahaha! How old was she at the time? Did she say anything to you? I bought DP some crotchless pants (for me to wear!) a couple of years ago but they've just lived in his draw! Maybe I could secretly put them on, on Valentine's Day 😉.

Haha we've become menstrual cycle experts! It's nice to have a few symptoms to monitor to guage a picture of what's going on. Yes you're probably right, it's probably just left over EWCM that's slowly made its way down!

Aww that's lovely you got your perfect proposal but a shame it wasn't with your DH. Your DH asked you a few times? Did you say no first time?! You could get the ring resized or get a ring resizer from Amazon. My ring is too big so I have to wear a ring resizer with it, it's like a rubbery spiral thing that sits on the inside of the ring. Would you like the ring more if it fit properly? Or could you ask the jeweller for your money back and choose a different one? DP doesn't want me to get the ring permanently resized, he seems to think my fingers are gonna swell when pregnant, don't know how big he thinks I'm gonna get?!

Did you suffer from anorexia or were you naturally very thin? Boobs that touch your knees, haha oh dear!

Oooh you went to the Google campus that's cool! What was it like? Wine tour also sounds good, I would have liked that 😂. There were some cheaper hotels nearby but the place my Dad and brother have booked is all inclusive so they'll spend a lot of their time in that one hotel. I'm hoping if it gets cancelled due to covid they'll get their money back and rebook somewhere else cheaper.

I saw some other kids playing around with skateboards so I thought I'd have a go. My parents got me a small one but I regularly fell off so gave up!

I think when the kids are young I will have to devote myself to them, I'm not expecting to have the same life as pre kids. However when they're teenagers and become more independent then I'll be able to spend more time on me and DP. That's roughly the plan but I think it will largely depend on what the kids are like. What do you think the best approach is?

Ah I get it now, thanks for the image! I watched your sleeves video! You make it look so easy 😂 I'll give it a go and try and make my own sleeve 😱.

I wish I wasn't 3DPO, then the symptoms would seem less stupid. Woke up again to sneezing, sniffles and a drippy nose 🤧 after struggling to sleep last night once again. My left leg (and arm???) was really crampy, the cramp felt like it was radiating down from my hips into my whole leg. So annoying. Also, I'm not usually anxious around this time in my cycle but my heart has been hammering away for some reason. This is going to be a looong TWW. How are you at 5DPO? Any symptoms yet?

I got my crosshairs today. A bit surprised that my temp went up by 0.2 since it usually rises much slower than that. Not too happy that my coverline is at 36.3. It makes my FP temps look static. Might have to bring back that random drop to add to some character to my chart. I remember last cycle you got a dip at 5DPO, anything similar happen today?

I wouldn't know how to face my parents if they ever saw my sex toys. In my culture, I'm not sure it's something that's accepted, so they might be very shocked. But I can't believe you threw away your toys! I guess fingers work just as well 😏 but I've never actually been able to get my fingers to work down there 🤔 I've taken my vibrator on holiday with me before. I still remember, DH and I were just about to enter security and my whole suitcase started buzzing. I was so paranoid it would start buzzing in the plane itself, thankfully it didn't 😅

I feel like A&E staff have probably seen it all! You'd probably just be another girl with a vibrator stuck up herself and they wouldn't even blink twice. Treating you would probably be a welcome respite to some of the drunkards they probably have to deal with. But definitely the awkward bit would be you buzzing in the waiting room! 😂😂😂 I'd be so embarrassed too. So does that mean no more foreplay? (Usually I like to just skip to the good bit)

My sister must have been 13/14 at the time. It's only in recent times that she's mentioned it 😂😂 I think you should put on those panties! It'll be a nice change to the monotony that's lockdown. Plus, spicing things up is always fun. Get his blood flowing. Maybe tease him a bit - he can look but he can't touch. 😉

Haha yeah, DH asked a few times. It wasn't ever a serious proposal, like getting on one knee. He just wanted to find out if I was ready to marry him yet and the answer was always no - until it was yes! The ring is about 5 sizes too big for me and there are limits to how many sizes down a ring can go. The jeweller measured my finger and everything and then gave me something that didn't fit and I didn't ask for. But the fit makes no difference to me because I won't ever like the ring. And it's too late to get our money back. We bought it in Greece from someone DH knew and the guy just took the piss and offloaded a random ring onto us. We couldn't be bothered with the drama so kept it. Now it's sat in my jewellery box, unloved, unwanted and unlooked-at.

Haha even if your fingers do swell you could just take it off and wear it on a chain until after your pregnancy. Plus you're not going to be pregnant forever, so you might as well have something that fits! What's 9 months x2 compared to the rest of your life?

I think I was just really skinny. Like literally stick thin. My mum even accused me of bulimia once 🤷‍♀️ But now I have a healthy body for my age. What did you look like as a teenager?

The Google campus was great. It was huge. The bikes were free, so you could just grab one and cycle around. It was on a weekend, so quite empty but it was a lovely experience. I saw black squirrels too!

I think there must be some covid guarantees in place where getting money back is possible. But I really do hope they don't find a way to fleece them. £1200 is a lot of money to lose! Would you family still go if they could, despite covid?

If I'm honest, I have no idea what the best approach is. The good thing is I'm not looking to climb the career ladder, I'm quite happy with where I am longterm. So as long as I can maintain my current position and salary then it might work. Maybe once they start school full time, I can then focus on my career a bit more and move on to the next stage. Working from home will help a lot even though it'll be harder with kids! Would you work from home with kids??

Did you manage to refine your pattern?

Wahey! Look at that temp rise 🤩 things are looking up 😀🤞. That's interesting you're having all those symptoms, cold like symptoms are definitely a sign of pregnancy. I just want to fast forward a week so we can find out!!

My temp did go down a bit this morning, well remembered that it went down last cycle at 5DPO! Hoping to see a good rise tomorrow! Told you you'd want that low temp back in your chart 😉

Omg that must have been embarrassing at the airport! Did the security staff notice it was vibrating? 😂😂

Haha yeh A&E staff have probably seen many shocking and funny things, like people getting things stuck up their bum 😂😂. We don't tend to do foreplay much, most of DTD is baby making, so we get to the main event!

That's funny your sister knew what had happened but didn't say anything for years 😂. Yep I might have to put those panties on soon 😉.

Oh no that's really sad about your engagement ring ☹️, maybe your DH will get you another one on a future anniversary or maybe if you renew your vows. Did you get a sparkly wedding ring or a solid band? Yeh good point, I may look into getting my engagement ring resized when things go back to normal.

How did you feel being really thin as a teenager? What age did your boobs grow? Just wondering if you were really thin with big boobs 😂. My body was kinda average, not too thin, not too fat. I gained a bit of weight at 16, to about a size 12 but then lost it at 18 when I was a size 6-8.

Black squirrel's 😲 I didn't know they existed! That's cool!

Yeh if restrictions allow they will go ahead with the holiday, so we'll just have to way up the risks and costs nearer the time. Hopefully the holiday won't go ahead and they'll get their money back. Everyone's gonna want a holiday after this is over so I think prices will probably go up!

You've done amazing already in your career, you don't need to climb any higher. It's great you've got to a position where you've got a well paid job that you enjoy. Hmmm I think working from home with kids could be quite difficult, it would depend how old they were and if they went to school or nursery.

Haven't had a chance to make any amendments on the pattern yet, been so busy today. Got a high workload and angry customers chasing me so I'm gonna have to go back to work now ☹️.

How's your day been?

Meh, I doubt the "symptoms" mean anything. Could just be because my room is cold in the morning or just a general symptom of ovulation. It's the dead leg that is mostly annoying. How are you feeling about this cycle? You're almost in your implantation window!

Ah, that 5DPO dip could be a pattern for you now! Maybe something to do with the secondary estrogen surge in the middle of your LP. It would be better if it was an implantation dip though 😅 I'm feeling quite optimistic, shall we go for the random symptom randomiser this cycle?

So I'm going to generate a random number with google and whatever we get will correlate to a symptom from this list.

unCliche - #15 - Backaches!! 😂
ButterscotchBabe - #36 - Lightheadedness! 😁

I'll take that 😂😂

Haha no, thankfully. We were at the area where you dispose of liquids so I was able to switch the vibrator off and reposition it inside my suitcase. Phew! If it was during security, I think I'd die!

DH definitely plans to get me a new one for our 10 year wedding anniversary or vow renewal. I don't mind so much not having an engagement ring as I'm very simple when it comes to jewelry. My wedding band is a skinny solid white gold and I like how understated it is. I don't notice it half the time. What's your engagement ring like?

I don't know, I feel like, if you're skinny, people will comment. If you're chubby, people will comment. I felt ok, I suppose. It wasn't until my early 20s that I started putting on weight. My cup size went from C > DD > E > FF > GG > H. At some points I was still quite skinny so I looked very top heavy and hated it! Now I'm a bit chubbier so it doesn't look as bad. Plus I lost some boob with my weight loss which was a welcome change! Wooow how did you manage to lose the weight at 18? Did you go on a diet? It's probably easier when you're younger. Now our slow metabolism makes everything but gaining weight harder.

I didn't know they existed either. It was such an amazing thing to see. They look so cool.

That's the problem with lockdown. Loads of people will rush to book holidays that there won't be any off-peak times during the year.

Haha I think I've just about done a little more than the bare minimum. I have some high flying peers in my industry. But I'm comfortable with where I am for now. Would you consider getting a live-in nanny/au pair to make things easier?

Oh sounds like a stressful day at work. Hopefully it's nothing too serious? Sucks you have to work late today.

My day was chill. Helped a friend out this evening with a mentoring session for a lady who was trying to get into engineering. I think she's a bit older than me but I think she's very brave pursuing a major career change. I wouldn't change careers complete now but I like teaching so might consider going into that just before retirement. Do you have a retirement plan?

Haven't slept well, I think it's because of the rubbish day I had yesterday. I was quite stressed from work so went out for a walk in a local national park at lunchtime. This off the lead dog ran at me and jumped up with its muddy paws, so my clothes were then muddy for the rest of the walk. I was livid with the woman for not having her out of control dog on a lead, her response "well he's a puppy, maybe you should walk somewhere else" 🤬🤬🤬

Haven't taken my temp yet, hoping if I can just lay still for the next few hours it will be okay to take at normal time! How's your leg? It sounds like it could be sciatica?

Omg 50 symptoms, that's a long list 😂. I don't mind light headedness, glad I didn't get backache as I already get that most days! Wouldn't mind a bit of nausea, not too much but just enough to help the diet along 😂😂.

Haha that was lucky, I was just imagining the suitcase on the conveyer belt about to go through the scan buzzing away 😂😂.

Aww your wedding ring sounds sleek and elegant 😊. My engagement ring is a halo design, so it's got a diamond in the middle with smaller diamonds around it. I don't wear it at home as I kept bashing it on things and one of the diamonds has dented inwards slightly 😕. Do you think you could sell your engagement ring? I don't think you need to keep it if you don't like it and it will never fit.

Yes that's true people will judge no matter your size! Omg your cup size is H 😲😲 wow mines a B or C depending what weight I am. You could have done some modelling with natural boobs that big, although it might not have helped your career 😂. Yeh I went on a calorie restricted diet and sometimes had fasting days, I wish I had the willpower now that I had back then!

Wouldn't be able to afford a live in nanny, also you'd need quite a big house otherwise it would feel like you don't have any alone time without the nanny there.

I have a very difficult customer which I've discovered maybe doing fraudulent activity, which is probably why he's getting shitty with me but I get the feeling my boss doesn't want to know, he'd rather I wasn't bringing him problems!

Yeh that must be difficult doing a major career change right when you should be at the height of your career. I guess if she can afford to then lockdown is a good time to do it. Haha I haven't really thought about retirement, too far away 😂. I'd like to retire early but it will depend if we've paid off our mortgage (that we don't have yet!). How about you?

Have you thought about when you might test? I'll probably do my usual, cheapie at 9DPO and FRER at 10DPO, that's if I make it to 10DPO without af!

Managed to go back to sleep for a bit, temp has gone back up 😊

Phew! Good you got a temp reading. You're in a crucial stage of your cycle now 😄 If you got a coverline, where would you think it would be? I think around 36.5. Would that be usual for you? Glad to see it rising too. Do you feel the B-Complex is helping or have you stopped taking it because of the chest pain?

Woooow! What an inconsiderate lady! Can't believe she didn't even have the decency to apologise. I completely get why you're annoyed! You must have been so cold, wet and muddy! 😡 I hope you feel better today and are a little less stressed?

I googled sciatica as I've seen it mentioned and apparently the pain goes right down into your leg and toes. Mine sort of radiates down from my groin area and where my upper and inner thigh meets my groin is where all my pain is concentrated! It was terrible last night, I struggled to sleep too 😭 So did some googling and the symptoms match up with an ovarian cyst 😭😭 It's on the side I ovulated from so maybe one of my cysts decided to be naughty 😭😭 Fortunately, it's not as bad this morning! But I still ended up waking up early, but not as early as you! can't believe how rubbish my sleep has been getting!!

Do you get backache from ovulation and AF? Or just bad posture from working at a desk all day? I wouldn't mind the backache, as long as it wasn't terrible and I could still go about my day. Oh no! How could you want nausea! I hate throwing up 🤮 I hate feeling like I'm about to throw up 🤮 I'd rather swallow my vomit than bring it all up 🤮🤮 I threw up on mine and DH's first date. He didn't know and he kissed me 😂😂🤮 Good times 😂😂😂

Aww my first engagement ring was a halo too. Absolutely gorgeous but it can be quite top heavy and rotate around a lot. Yeah, good idea not wearing it at home. It'd be even worse to lose a diamond! Especially when washing the dishes 😱 We considered selling the ring, I even put it on eBay and someone offered £1000 for it, but that's half of what was paid for it so it wasn't worth it.

I'm not a H anymore! I have loads of big bras that don't fit me 😭 Really nice ones too! I bought this bra a few months ago. But it doesn't look as nice on me as it does on the smaller girls 😭 Hehe I did consider lingerie modelling. Not sure how my friends, family and lovers would have felt about it though.

When I was trying to lose weight for my wedding, I did some intermittent fasting, not sure if worked or not as I got a personal trainer soon after but I don't think I could fast for a whole day. Sounds like very strong willpower! I'm guessing you didn't build any muscle? I really liked the strength that came with working out. I looked toned. Now I'm all soft again. Ugh I see my body from just a few months ago and I want it 🤤

Yeah that's true actually. I've read some posts on here where women are complaining that the nanny is always there. You'd probably need a mansion to feel like you can get away from them and have some family time.

😱 Is there someone else, other than your boss, that you can report them to? Just be careful it doesn't backfire on you. Maybe if you can collate some hard evidence so you have leverage.

She's been studying at the Open University for 6 years!!! That is some dedication. I haven't thought much about retirement too but I really like the prospect of doing something more relaxing in my old age. Maybe if I became a lecturer at a university, it wouldn't be too stressful. Handling adults must be better than handling children! DH definitely wants us to over pay on our mortgage each month, which will eat so much into my savings. I like savings 😭

I think waiting until 14DPO has never steered me wrong because AF always manages start before then. So I'll probably wait for a missed AF. Although FF says I can test at 12DPO, so maybe then.

Have you ever seen baby peppers? My plants have flowered and peppers are starting to grow 😍😍

There's a big difference in your LP temps compared to your FP temps 😀 and I'm sure that line will get higher! Yep I'm still taking the B vitamins, I found the 100mg ones made my chest a bit jittery so I cut them in half and now I take 50mg every other day and the lower dose complex inbetween. Overall my temp looks generally higher than from previous cycles so it could well be due to the B6! I'm also eating 2/3 Brazil nuts each day, apparently the selenium is good for building womb lining so helps with implantation. They're a bit dry on their own so I melted some chocolate and made chocolate coated Brazil nuts 😊. Might be worth a try?

I've calmed down about the dog situation now but kept thinking of things I wish I'd said, I was so angry at the time, DP said I came across too aggressive 😕. I'm just fed up of inconsiderate dog owners.

The sciatic nerve starts in the bum, so normally the pain would start there and can radiate down the leg. I'm quite sensitive to sciatic pain, if DP spanks my bum (even lightly) it sets it off. If the pain is in your groin then it's probably not sciatica, sounds like it could be an issue with your ovary. Glad the pain has reduced, hopefully it's nothing serious.

I think my backache is due to sitting at a desk all day as I get it throughout my cycle. I try and lie down for a bit at lunchtime to give my back a break! Backache is quite uncomfortable, enjoy it whilst you don't have it, as you'll probably get it in your 3rd trimester. I'm dreading that stage of pregnancy as my back already aches without carrying a heavy lump on the front!

I wouldn't want proper nausea, just a little queasy! Yes vomiting and dry heaving is the worst. Oh no haha, howcome you threw up? Were you ill?

You could try selling the ring to a jewellers? Not much point at the moment but maybe in the future.

Ooh that bra is very sexy! I reckon it would look great with bigger boobs! I think it doesn't look as good on the girl in the picture, the inner straps that go over the top of the boob would definitely look better if there was more of the boob to sit on.

Yeh fasting is great for fast weight loss but it doesn't encourage muscle growth, so you just end up quite thin. To have a sexy toned body it's best to eat protein and work out! I have a soft body now which I don't like but it's difficult to do much in lockdown. Gyms are gonna be packed when they reopen!

Yeh I'm gathering some more evidence now, my boss responded fairly positively, which I was surprised about as normally I get the impression he's fed up of me bringing him problems 😂.

Overpaying on your mortgage will save you money in the long run, as the quicker you pay it back, the less interest you pay. I'm hoping we can get a less than 25 year mortgage, then we can perhaps change to working part time when we're older and go on lots of holidays! A lecturer could be a good role, don't teach kids, that will be too stressful 😂.

😍😍 That's exciting you've got new peppers growing! Are they spicey or the bell pepper type? I don't think I've seen growing peppers before!

Yes, it's strange that my FP temps were a lot lower this cycle. Usually just before ovulation they are at about 36.4 and usually rise 0.4 throughout my LP but I've gone from 36.25 just before ovulation to 36.65 today which is a 0.4 rise in just 4 days. I'm impressed! Could be the agnus castus balancing out my hormones.

50mg of B6 is still enough to make a big difference and your temps really do look much higher than previous months so you may end up having your highest temps ever this cycle. I've literally heard about brazil nuts and selenium just this week, that's funny! I might give it a go, especially with some white chocolate, yum! Have you heard about pineapple also helping with implantation?

I think you were well within your right to be angry and angry doesn't have to be synonymous with aggressive, it's not like you punched her dog. You were probably caught by surprise having your personal space invaded and then made wet and muddy. Anger is 100% a valid response! 😡

I think I spoke to soon as my upper leg has been so achy for the whole day 😭 On the image, highlighted in red is sort of where the pain is. Around the inside and the back of my upper thigh. Nothing in my bum. I've never had it before and can't imagine why it would hurt all of a sudden. If I was in implantation territory that I could blame it on that but I've had it since 2dpo so it must be ovulation related. How come you get sciatic pain? Did you suffer an injury in the past?

Hahaha it's a long, crazy story. I was suffering from major indigestion as my food from earlier hadn't settled in my stomach. I'd also just wet myself and was sat there soaked through in my own urine so my anxiety was through the roof. I felt sick and anxious to my stomach and I could feel the sick coming so I asked DH for some water and while he was gone, I literally threw up and had to swallow it back down. Some went on my top though and I was so paranoid for the rest of the night. Can't believe how crazy the story is. I'd have to tell you it from the beginning 🙈

Jewellers are even worse. I think I was quoted £80 for the silver and a few hundred for the diamond 😂😂 no thanks.

It is a nice bra, but it looks weird having so much boob encased within it. It doesn't look sexy at all 😭 I'll send you a pic on insta. Do you ever buy nice lingerie?

It would be better to buy some workout equipment for your home so you could work out from home instead. I did a lot in the garden over the summer, which was fun. I'd love to create a home gym too at the new house. Do you have any weights at home? Better than going to a packed gym.

Ah that's good! Glad he wasn't annoyed with you. At least you have someone senior dealing with it now 👍

They're bell peppers. They take forever to ripen though. I only managed to grow a single pepper last year and from the seeds I salvaged, only two plants grew 😪

I think we could be finishing with the house before the month is up!! Eeeeeee!!! We booked a 2nd viewing for next week to start measuring spaces for furniture!!

Ah yes it could be the Agnus Castus, you'll have to see if your temps show more of a variation in your next cycle as well, unless of course you get a BFP!

Haha yes I have heard about pineapple but I don't like it so I won't be trying that one 😂.

Hmm that's strange with the location of the pain, if it was caused by your ovary I would expect you to still have pain in your lower stomach. If it's just in the legs that would lead me to think either a muscle injury, cramp or a nerve issue. There's lots of nerves and big arteries in the upper thigh so there could be a whole range of causes. Have you looked up side effects of Agnus Castus and B vitamins? Is there anything else you've changed recently?

I'm not sure why I get sciatic pain, I first noticed it a couple of years ago and it's slowly got worse. It maybe linked to my lower back pain but I'm not sure.

Gosh that sounds awful, howcome you wet yourself? Were you unable to hold it in? You'll have to tell me the full story one day!

The bra looks different on you, on the model the triangle straps are half way down her chest but on you they meet at the collarbone, so it doesn't have the same look. It seems like with a bigger cup size they've made the straps meet higher up. I see you've kept the label on, are you planning on returning it?

We do have some weights but they never get used 😂 last year I tried buying some kettle bells but everywhere was sold out. Your body pic looks great, I'm sure it wouldn't take too long to get back to that. You look quite slender and toned, were you exercising at the time? I have some weight loss pics from many years ago, I'll see if I can dig them out!

Oh no I hope you manage to get more than one bell pepper this year!

Yay not much longer left!! Have you already thought about where you want to place furniture?

I am a bit surprised that with all the supplements I'm taking, I haven't messed up my cycle 😂 I haven't had any adverse effects either, thank goodness 😅Well, minus this leg cramp. Just checked side effects for agnus castus and b-complex and there's nothing there that would affect my nervous system. I still think the pain is ovary related as the cyst can indirectly affect other areas on the body.

I read that pregnancy can exacerbate sciatica so you may have to deal with it for 9 months. Sounds like a horrible thing to deal with for so long. How would you sleep? 😱Have you started practising sleeping on your side for pregnancy? I can only sleep on my front 😭😭

🙈🙈🙈 My bladder was full and I didn't make it to the toilet in time. Which in turn caused my anxiety that made me spew my guts 😂 Trust mine and DH's relationship to start with such dramatic flair. So very me 😂😂 Poor guy had no clue what had been happening with me.

I guess they've done that for support. Fat straps is something else I have to live with. So annoying! Plus bigger bras are expensive. I'd love to just walk into Primark and buy a £10 bra 🙁I've taken the label off now. I'm going to keep it but haven't really had many chances to wear it because of lockdown.

I actually bought some weights from the Czech Republic during the first lockdown because in the UK people were selling the lightest of weights for a fortune. I bought extra and sold them on eBay to capitalise on the crazy prices 😁😁Yeah, the time the pic was taken I was still working out. I never managed to stop my belly from folding when sitting down but it was the skinniest I'd been in ages. Now I'm chubby again. Do you have space at home to work out? DH wants to buy a treadmill and I'm so annoyed because I know he won't use it and it'll take up so much needed space. Is your DP the type to buy things just to neglect them?

I've tried to plan out the furniture on the floor plan website but I think I'll have to wait and see how things fit when we move our furniture in.

Another rise this morning 😊, feeling positive about this cycle, not for a BFP but I reckon I'm gonna get a better luteal phase. The B vitamins must be working! How's your temp doing? I bet it's another good rise!

7DPO so implantation could have happened by now but I don't have any symptoms!

How are you feeling today? Have you still got the leg pain?

Oh no, as much as I want a baby, I'm really not looking forward to pregnancy 😂. Sciatica can be very uncomfortable, it's ranges from a dull ache to a strong ache, normally I'll take painkillers which could be a problem when pregnant. I already sleep on my side, infact I can only sleep on my side, so luckily that won't be a problem. Ah yes sleeping on your front won't be possible from the second trimester. I think you can get pregnancy pillows that allow you to partially lie on your front with a hole for the baby bump.

Oh dear lol, how long did it take you to tell him what had happened that night?

That's annoying having to pay more for bigger bras, it's not like you chose to have bigger boobs! I guess there's ups and downs to big and small boobs, having big boobs can make you feel more feminine and sexy. I think we all want what we haven't got 😂😂.

Haha good business thinking! I think to stop the belly folding you need quite low body fat, which is harder for women and not great for conceiving. No we don't have space in the house, each room is fairly full with furniture. We do have a large garden but that's not so helpful in the winter 😂. Oh no, yeh treadmills take up a lot of space. Could he get an indoor bike instead? That would use up less space and probably cheaper. Haha no DP doesn't do that, it's probably more me that buys things and then neglects them 😂😂.

It's so exciting creating a home and being your own you'll get to decorate and design it exactly how you want!

I thought you might be interested in the below post, it's about sleep issues causing infertility.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/infertility/4155169-Sleep-issues-Infertility

Yay! Go temps go! Glad it's progressing so well for you! Fingers crossed for a longer LP and highest temps ever! Just checked your overlay chart and these are your highest temps at 7DPO so far! How exciting! My temp did exactly what it did last cycle. At 5DPO it flattened and I have a flat temp today as well. It might start going up from tomorrow. I'm thinking secondary estrogen surge keeping my temps down?

Oooooo imagine if you have a little bean in there right now searching for the perfect spot to snuggle into!!! Hopefully over the next few days, your temps will shoot up 📈 I know charts can't show or predict pregnancy so early on but it'll be really interesting to see what happens.

I'm feeling a bit bleh this morning. Have a bit of a headache. I've been having them on and off over the last few days. Quite tired too so feeling a bit groggy. My leg is much better! I asked DH to give me a massage last night and he decided to unleash the strength of a thousand oxen onto it, nearly took my skin off - but it must have worked! I guess the pain was muscular 🤷‍♀️ symptom spotting isn't fun when there's a logical explanation 😢😂 I'll need to remember to do my progesterone test tomorrow too!

If I get a BFP this cycle, I want to buy this box and put the HPT inside it and give it to DH on Valentine's Day. It's such an overdone thing to do but I think Valentine's Day would be the least suspicious time to do it because people generally exchange gifts then (although the box shape might be a dead giveaway. I'll have to choose another shape.) Would you tell your DP straight away if you got a BFP or wait until Val's Day?

I remember when my mum was pregnant with my siblings. Excess saliva was one of her symptoms. She used to carry around a bottle to spit in 🤢 I really hope I don't get that!! Do you remember any of your mums symptoms through her pregnancies?

I could sleep on my side if I tried. I seem to go through cycles where my sleeping position changes. I used to sleep on my side quite a lot but for some reason, I prefer my front now and can't sleep on my side anymore. But those pregnancy pillow sound like a dream! I'll take two please!

I can't remember tbh, it couldn't have been too long after we started dating. The full story is now one of those stories you tell amongst friends and laugh your head off. I wish it was my most embarrassing story too, but I've had worse happen to me. What's the most embarrassing thing to ever happen to you?

The funny thing is, I have the biggest boobs in my family (so far, as my little cousin seems to be catching up) I think it's from the paternal side of me. My sisters and I have different dads and they're both flat chested. Is there a feature that all your family members have inherited? In my family, it's our lack of a bum and waist. We're not a very shapely family - we're all very boxy 📦😂

He has an exercise bike too! He doesn't use it. That's why I'm even more annoyed 😠 If we created an outdoor gym, that would be great because then the equipment would have a dedicated space. I want to buy this. We have a hot tub too so I'd be looking to put it inside something like this. Then at least we'd have a gym area for fitness and relaxation (obviously I won't be using the hot tub as I don't go inside water). Since you have a big garden, you could erect an outdoor building. It might be cold in winter without any insulation but a cool environment is great when you're working out ❄️🥶

😱😱 What! Sleep can affect fertility. That's crazy! The body has to be a perfect system or else, it seems, if something is out of balance, it can impact other areas of the body 😱 Gosh, there seems to be 1001 reasons for infertility and pinpointing it must be impossible. Can't believe 10 years of bad sleep caused this!! But she finally got her happily ever after. Hopefully my LP-induced insomnia is mostly caused by anxiety and not me waking up a million times in the night 😱

I forgot to mention, my boobs have started getting sore I think. I had pain that was not quite there at 3DPO. Then yesterday I moved and they felt almost not pain-free. Now today they feel a bit sore but not sore enough for me to 100% say they feel sore. Tomorrow is 6DPO so if the pain becomes more obvious, then my sore boobs will be right on schedule. If not, then I'm taking it as a symptom! 😂

That's interesting your temps have done the same as last time, they're still fairly high so maybe the progesterone just rises slowly at this stage? I wonder if anything different will happen this time, maybe an implantation dip or even higher temps. What is the highest your temp has been? I think it was higher than 36.8?

Haha that would be nice but I've had a very symptomless TWW so far, which in a way is easier, if I was having symptoms I'd start getting hope!

Glad your leg has gone! You'll have to ask for massages more often! Shame it's been replaced with a headache though, I wonder if you're battling a mild virus, do you still have cold symptoms?

Ooh yes the progesterone test, that will be really interesting to see what it comes back with! Gosh time has gone quick, it doesn't seem that long ago that you were trying to get a label for it.

Aww that's a cute idea! Based on your dates I think you'd have to buy the box before finding out? Unless you did a test before 14DPO. I'd probably tell DP straight away, I don't think I'd be able to keep it secret!

Oh dear haha, I've not heard of that symptom before! I can't remember what symptoms my Mum had, she may not have said, so probably nothing significant. Symptoms can vary so much between women and between pregnancies, so there's good chance you won't get the excess saliva.

Oh no, dare I ask what worse things have happened?? Hmm I'm struggling to think, lots of embarrassing things have happened but mostly when drunk. There was plenty of occasions in my early 20s when I'd be wearing something skimpy on a night out, get really drunk and then fall over and end up flashing everyone!

Do both your sisters have the same Dad? I'm guessing their Dad is your Step Dad? If so, do you get on with him? There aren't that many women in my family to compare myself with as I only have brothers, my Mum's body is quite straight and skinny whereas I'm an hourglass, my waist is slim and my bum is huge, my shoulders are a similar width to my hips. I'll send you some pics on Instagram.

Ah if he doesn't use the exercise bike then that's a good reason not to buy a treadmill! How does he feel about an outdoor gym? That summerhouse is lovely! Although I'd worry it might get big spiders hiding in it 😬🕷️. That's awesome you have a hot tub but I know you can't enjoy it, getting a hot tub is definitely a house goal for me! Make sure your DH doesn't use the hot tub too much as it's bad for sperm. I think at the moment it's best to just save as much as possible so we can buy our own house, then we can start thinking about buying some cool things for it 😊.

Yeh it's pretty scary how many things can stop you getting pregnant but then humans have been reproducing for 1000s of years, so I don't know how they did it before 😂. If you keep having problems sleeping it might be worth getting a sleep test done.

Aww it sounds like your boobs are doing a similar thing to normal but that's just due to your progesterone levels, which will be high whether you're pregnant or not 🙂.

Ahh glad your leg pain has gone, I hope your leg is still there! 😂😂😂😂

Hahaha! The way DH was going I was almost certain I'd lose a leg in the process 😂😂😂

Yeah, my highest temp so far has been 36.88. I'm hoping to get into the 37s. Or is that unrealistic 😁😁 Yours is definitely on it's way there. I think you'll see about 36.85 tomorrow. Then 36.9 then 37, then BFP! Next week is going to be full of so much apprehension with both of us due AF and potentially testing! I'm glad it's Friday tomorrow. Then we'll have the weekend, which always flies by. Then it'll be next week!!

No the cold symptoms were always in the morning, for the first few days after ovulation, I'd wake up sneezing then I'd feel fine for the rest of the day. But apparently progesterone suppresses your immune system or something? So that could be it. Stupid cycle. I started getting shooting pains on the surface of my boobs today 😱 They're horrible! Cramping quite a bit too! I love symptom spotting 😂😂

Time has definitely flown by! Before you know it, it'll be March, and things will start happening with you at the fertility clinic. But I really hope you get your BFP before then. To give you some hope this lady got a BFP with a 8-9 day LP and this lady got pregnant with low progesterone!

I'll definitely test days before Valentine's Day and order it on Prime so it arrives the next day. But l'll struggle to keep it to myself too! If I did, I'd keep hinting at him 😂 DH's family will be here in April to help with the new house and I'd be around 12 weeks by then (if pregnant) which means we can tell them face to face! I just hope travel is still allowed by then.

Ah you didn't notice any symptoms while she was pregnant with your younger brothers? I really do hope so, it seems like a horrible symptom to have. Any sign of that lightheadedness yet? 😁

🙈🙈🙈 it involves me pooping myself in some else's house but that's not even the worst of it! I still cringe thinking about it. Omggg! 🙈 Hopefully you were wearing granny knickers during some of those falls! Definitely better than a thong 😂😂

Yeah, my step-dad is my dad. I don't see him as anything else. It's a long story but I only found out when I was 13 that he wasn't my dad because I found my birth certificate. My God! So many stories to tell you. We'd have to have a proper chat one day. Your figure looks great! I'd love a defined waist! And your arse does not even look big. You're a shapely woman, which means everything must look good on you!! You're so lucky!

I'm sure he'd be fine with an outdoor gym. As long as we can put some heating in there and spider-proof it 😄 Oh no, we don't like dead sperm! I'd have to limit his use when we're TTC then! Hopefully no. 2 comes easier than no.1. I literally want DH to sneeze on me and knock me up. You're right. Getting the house first is the key thing to do then you can put in and take out as many thing as want. If you don't go through with the IVF (because of your impending BFP) how many months away are you from having the deposit you need?

How was your DP's job interview btw?

I literally ask DH daily how people get pregnant. It just seems so easy for everyone else 😭 Like can they teach me??? 😂😂 I'm a pretty good sleeper, at least before TTC. I just think I get really nervous and stressed and it affects my ability to fall or stay asleep.

Tomorrow I enter implantation territory!! Eeeeee! I hope you start getting symptoms too so that we can be crazy together. I feel so silly feeling everything that probably isn't there 😂 so I neeeeed you to join me!!

Haha!!

A temp in the 37s is realistic but maybe not compared to your FP temps, that would be a huge jump, not impossible though! 36.88 is pretty impressive, I don't think mines reached 36.8 yet, so my next milestones are to reach 36.8 temp and a LP lasting 12 days. I had one cycle of 11 days a few months ago, all the rest have been 8 or 9 days.

I've not heard of progesterone suppressing immune system but that would probably make sense as pregnant ladies immune systems are lowered, probably to stop their bodies from killing the baby. Do you know when you'll get the results from the progesterone test?

Shooting pains on your boobs 😱 I didn't know that was possible lol. Aww it sucks you always get quite bad symptoms with your boobs! Interestingly my nipples are a little sore if I rub or lightly squeeze them but the rest of my boobs are fine.

We just DTD and it hurt my right ovary, the one I've ovulated from, I think normally the ovulation pain has gone by this point. Hopefully it's my corpus luteum alive and thriving!

Thanks for sharing those charts, I am pretty surprised they managed to get pregnant with such low progesterone. I didn't think it was possible with LPs of 8/9 days.

Aww that would be lovely to give them the news face to face in your new home. I think there will be some restrictions still in place in April but who knows what at the moment! If you can't see them, will you keep it a secret for longer or tell them over the phone?

I don't recall her having any symptoms when pregnant, so either she didn't have any or she just didn't tell me. I'm surprised you remember your Mum having symptoms as you would have still been quite young? No lightheadedness yet 😂 any back ache?

Omg that sounds terrible! Haha no I was wearing thongs at the time! 🤦

Wow that must of been really difficult for you to find out at 13, howcome your Mum didn't tell you? Yes it would be lovely to meet you, we'll have to do a day trip at some point when things go back to normal!

Aww thank you, I don't like my chunky monkey legs, I'd much prefer your slender legs!

Lots of people have either got pregnant easy the 1st time and then struggled 2nd time or it took ages the first time and then they got pregnant with the 2nd whilst still breastfeeding. So hopefully we'll be the type that gets pregnant easily the 2nd time!

It's probably gonna be another year until we've got the deposit we need, especially as DP hasn't been putting anything in the pot the last couple of months, knowing his employment was coming to an end. His interview went okay thanks, it was more around finding what role could suit his skills. So he doesn't know what he'll be doing yet but it's something to do with covid. I'm a bit nervous about him getting involved as it puts him at higher risk of catching it. He has a proper interview next week for a permanent role in the civil service, so fingers crossed that goes well!

Haha yeh I want to know what the secret is! Maybe we're putting it in the wrong hole 😂😂😂

Yay you'll be joining me in the implantation zone ⚠️⚠️. C'mon symptoms, reveal yourself!!

Big temp drop this morning, so it's either really good news or really bad news... My money's on the latter 😭😭

Morning! I feel like I've woken up in good spirits! I definitely feel more awake than I did yesterday!

Oh gosh, your temps could really mean anything. If you had a longer LP, I'd be inclined to say it was an implantation dip - and it still could be! But this could really go either way! I hoooooope it's BFP related and not AF! I really want us to have some good luck already! I've even asked the universe for us to get pregnant at the same time so neither of us go through it alone 😢 I guess at this stage, predicting a BFP will depend on how you're feeling. Any new symptoms? If not, tomorrow will give us all the answers - hopefully your temp will go back up.

My temps don't seem to be moving much 🤷‍♀️ Maybe with lower FP temps comes lower LP temps. 36.69 this morning. I woke up to no sore boobs! 😱😱😱 A bit sneezy as well and felt like my throat was a bit raw. I can now feel the soreness seeping into my boobs though but it's very mild for now. And I feel a bit crampy, I think? Maybe it's in my head.

The website where I got the progesterone test from said 3-4 days but could be longer as they have a lot of covid tests to process. I guess by the time I get my results back, I'd either have a BFP or BFN. If it's a BFN then I'll go to my GP with the results if they're bad.

I'm really excited that your nipples are sore!!! 😂😂😂 Are they still sore today?? Do the rest of your boobs hurt? Is this a new symptom for you??

Oooooo pain from DTD?! That sounds promising! Now I can't wait for test week! Do you feel pregnant? Whatever that feels like... 😂

I guess it's not impossible to conceive with a short LP, just more difficult. You just need to hope you implant really early and then after that, I think it'll be fine. That's why I'm not as concerned about my LP anymore. I'll take 11 days 😅 So I don't think you should worry too much about your LP, the low progesterone would be more concerning (if that's what we have.)

The ideal situation would be to tell them face to face but if we can't we wouldn't want to keep it from them so we'd tell them over the phone. Maybe send a card with the scan photo or something. But I would reeeally love to see them! It's my sister's and mum's birthday in April so if we're all gathering, I could tell everyone then. How would you reveal the news to your family? Would you gather everyone together?

Well, when my dad came into my life, I was 5 and my little 5 year old brain assumed that he was my dad and that was that. Maybe my mum didn't want to confuse me. I don't know. But he's the best dad in the world and I wouldn't trade him for anything.

A day trip sounds great. Is there anywhere in particular you'd like to visit? I like Bath. I've been before but haven't had a chance to do proper sight seeing.

Yeah, I was 5/6 and 9/10 when my mum was pregnant with my sisters so I can remember some things, I think mostly from when I was 10 though. What's your earliest childhood memory? I can still remember in 1997 when I was 5 and Tony Blair came to visit my school. When I was 3 and my nursery made me and my cousin kiss each other for our birthdays 😂 My Mr Blobby cake and blow up doll during my 3rd birthday party.

Your legs may not even be chunky. You probably just think they are!

I hope we get pregnant easily the second time. I can't be doing this every month with a young child to look after. We'd barely have the time to DTD!

Ok, a year isn't too far away, have you started looking at properties online? Oh gosh, a covid role. Would he have to come in contact with people with covid? Sounds risky, let's hope the permanent role comes through for him, that would definitely be safer. Fingers crossed🤞🤞

The way things are going, we probably are putting it in the wrong hole. With all these random nooks and crannies who knows where it's meant to go 😂😂😂

This morning, I was thinking about how I used to make online friends all the time as a kid, especially on MSN and Habbo Hotel then it just stopped being the thing to do. But in our old age it's so hard to make friends that I'm actually glad our paths crossed!

Just sent off my progesterone test. The finger prick tool hurt like a bitch! 😂😂 Not sure what I was expecting but it wasn't that! 4/10 do not recommend.

Yay maybe you got some better sleep! Temp is looking good, you can see the improvement with this one and the previous one, compared with the older two cycles 😊. Surprised the side temp labels haven't moved up, you're at the top of the page 😂.

I don't normally get a significant temp drop until af starts and I get spotting a day before that. I don't have any spotting yet so fingers crossed it will hold out a few more days. Tomorrow will be the deciding factor, if temp goes down again then it's all over for me this cycle. If it goes up then that's an implantation sign!

That's a big change for you not to have sore boobs at 6DPO!! If they're still not sore tomorrow then that could definitely be a sign! Most of my boobs don't hurt it's only the nipples that are a bit sore when rubbed. I did notice it last cycle but it was so mild it wasn't really worth mentioning, maybe it's my progesterone levels increasing very slowly! Interestingly my throat was sore this morning
too and I've been sneezing more the last few days! I really want tomorrow morning to hurry up so I can take my temp!!

Yeh when DTD it felt like my ovary was inflamed, how it normally feels straight after ovulation, unusual to have that at 7DPO. Do you think you'll DTD anymore in this TWW? I find my sex drive is lower after ovulation 😂. I don't feel any different, no cramps yet but it's getting very close to crunch time for me, so they could start at any moment.

Have you done your progesterone test? How does it work, is it a blood test?

If we manage to get pregnant without fertility help, do you think we should still see someone to get progesterone prescribed? With my history I think I would worry that I might lose it due to low progesterone levels 😕.

I hope you do get to see them all in April, it's felt quite lonely and boring the past 6 months, I can't imagine how difficult it must be for people living alone. It's DP's birthday and my Dad's 50th in April so I could tell the family then. I couldn't gather everyone together as our family is quite split up, I'd have to tell them separately. Our due dates would be in October which means we'd be in our 3rd trimester through the summer 🥵🥵.

Aww that's lovely you have a great relationship with your Dad. Have you ever met your birth father? DP doesn't know his Dad, he left their Mum when DP and his brother were young. He found out his Dad actually worked at the same NHS trust he was working at but he didn't want to make contact.

Yeh Bath or Bristol would be good, Bristol maybe easier as it's just along the M4 for you and the M5 for us but Bath is probably nicer. I went to Bath briefly many years ago, it's a pretty place, I've always wanted to see the Roman baths!

Ah there's a similar age gap between you and your sister's and me and my brother's! Howcome Tony Blair visited your school? Bit early for a blow up doll at 3?? 😂😂 Did you like Mr Blobby? I found him creepy 😂. My first memory is of me as a baby crawling towards a box of chocolates that were left on the living room floor. My Mum picked them up just before I managed to get to them, I was so upset! I don't remember much else at that age, having chocolates taken away must have been very traumatic 😂😂.

I think the council are looking for people to help out at testing and vaccinating centers, yeh I hope the office job works out!

Haha yeh I remember MSN and we used to have AOL, don't know what happened to that! Yes maybe it was meant to be! 😊

Oh no, finger prick tests aren't very nice! Did you manage to get enough blood first time?