The Turkey Baster Gang (gobble gobble)

[Oilyoilyoilgob]

Just starting a new thread on self insemination before our first one locks down!

39 pages of highs and lows and THE most supportive group you could wish for if you’re starting or on a self insemination journey.

💚✨ good luck ✨💚

Thanks @Oilyoilyoilgob and great news about your chart indicating ovulation! I am jealous you’re 8dpo- I would love to fast forward the 2ww a bit as only 1dpo here. But I guess if I did that I would miss Xmas (or what’s left of it anyway!). We just did our final SI for this cycle and I am keeping everything crossed we get lucky this cycle. That would be the best Xmas gift. My period is due on New Year’s Day so think I’m gonna year on New Year’s Eve so if it’s negative I can think it’s a new year and a fresh start tomorrow rather than beginning a whole new year on a BFN. Feel like that
Would set an unlucky tone for 2021- stupidly superstitious I know!

Gratitude for 3 things sounds brilliant! I might try that to boost positivity over next few months. Know what you mean about irrational jealousy. My SIL is 3 months pregnant or nearly and she made a totally inoccuous comment in family group chat after tier 4 news was announced and said- well it seems like a great Christmas to be pregnant as I’m not going to miss out on much now.
In my head I was like oh fuck off preggers mcsmuggy. Which is really mean and unfair of me! She doesn’t know at all we’ve been trying.
I do think those types of feelings are totally normal and understandable even if we feel like crazy ladys for feeling them!

*test on New Year’s Eve that should say!

@Birchybirch that’s so positive you’ve spoken to doc and they’ve put your referral in hope you get contacted by clinic quickly.
And best of luck for this cycle!

I went with a slower syringe speed today and will do that going forward! Hope it makes the difference!

That is definitely a positive of covid- not having to do embarrassing appointments face to face. Got to try and find the silver linings where we can eh??

I just saw this from the window in my office. I am going to take it as a sign of hope and better days to come! 🌈 🌈

@eloiseislost gorgeous! Definitely a sign

I’m with @Oilyoilyoilgob and @Birchybirch in that I can no longer keep up with this thread 😂

But just wanted to say that I love how almost all of us are in tww and will be testing similar time - it seems like cycles can sync up even over mumsnet 😂😂

I’m 6dpo today - I’ve been doing really well up until now to distract myself and keep my mind off ttc this cycle but the last two days have finally been much quieter at work and so it’s easier to focus back on it now. Decided not to test unless I miss my period (it’s due on the 27th) - let’s see if I keep my word!

@Birchybirch that’s fantastic news! I’m really pleased that you’ve had a great chat with your gp and things will move forward.
That’s reminded me my GP didn’t ring me and I didn’t chase it up either 🤭

@Makingnumber2 omg I’m laughing at the smug comments lol! Oh I’ve been very irritated by them all. When Laura Whitmore came out I did an actual proper eye roll 😬 think more so because they both scream for privacy (like loads of celebs) then she’s in paper every day with her preggo photo shoot. Honestly I was like ‘oh just piss off, yawn’ maybe that’s because I dislike the celebs that pick and choose when they want to be private though 🤔 anyways I think I just have to own that I’m always going have these feelings about pregnancy posts 😅

I don’t really think about my tww, yes there’s the hope there but I try not to get obsessed, what will be will be in regards to getting the pregnancy jackpot, I do wish I could apply that thought process to every other area of my life. I think I can very contentedly worry/tick over stuff going on in the present that I don’t think too much about if I’m pregnant or not. At least until my period comes!

Awww @eloiseislost I love a double rainbow! We saw one at the tip a couple of weeks ago, it was nice as so many of us stopped to look at it. A bonding moment for us all. Hopefully yes, a sign that good things are to come. Everyone is in my thoughts for the upcoming few days and weeks 🍀🤞🏻🙏🏻

@eloiseislost omg beautiful! And lovely view you have from your office there.

@Birchybirch congratulations on your referral, that’s really great news. It must feel so positive to be making progress.

Period DD for me here 😬. Nothing so far 🤞🏻, but I know there’s a lonnnng way to go. Weird thing is I’ve been having this really painful stitch-like cramp just on one side (left) since last night. At first I thought it must be period cramps, but it’s only on one side. Anyone else had this? Also a bit gassy/ constipated (sorry tmi!) so I guess it could be that...? It’s freaking me out, as quite painful.

@Bizawit great news no AF yet! Without wanting to sow false hope, one of my earliest symptoms with #1 was sharp pains on one side only very soon after I had my BFP at 11DPO- sent me into a spiral of anxiety that it was sign of an ectopic pregnancy. Had pains on and off like that for a good few weeks. Really hope it is a bfp-when are you testing?

@Makingnumber2 ahh thanks so much for sharing your experience. Looking for all the false hope I can get over here 😂. That’s interesting that your pains lasted a few weeks. My friend was suggesting it could be implantation pains, but I’m 14dpo so was assuming too late for that..
I think I’m going to avoid testing- as silly as it sounds I don’t want to ruin chirstmas. Soo I think I will wait and IF af doesn’t come, test after Christmas 🤞🏻.

That’s a very restrained and eminently sensible plan! I am in awe of your restraint. I think you’re right though- you don’t want to dampen Xmas by testing and it being BFN.
I really really hope AF stays away and it’s a BFP to extend the Christmas joy a little longer when you do decide to test

@Oilyoilyoilgob I’m so jealous of your facial and massage. We are heading back into level 5 here on Thursday and I can’t get an appointment for love or money.

It’s mad that so many of us are in the two week wait at the same time. I’m refusing to test and I’m going to try not to symptom spot as I’ve driven myself mental the last two cycles googling every twinge!

Fingers crossed 2021 brings loads of baby dust

@Makingnumber2 well let’s see if I actually manage stick to it 😂 , but that’s the plan. Thanks so much for the well wishes ❤️. Have you started your 2ww yet?

@Nej1983 oh no - what’s level 5? 😱

Level 5 is full lockdown country wide.
No inter county travel from midnight on 26th
Only 2 house hold can visit from dec 26th No visitors to the house at all from Jan 1st
Pubs restaurants beauticians & hairdressers etc closed from 3pm Xmas Eve

GOOD MORNING.

I received a text message at 07.24 this morning from my surgery confirming a referral was made to the waitlist at my local hospital’s fertility unit but due to CoVid19 do not follow up directly with them until three months have passed for an appointment LETTER.

Tbh this is was the best Christmas present, under these circumstances l, that I could have wished for in 2020.

Thank you @MrsKin90MrsKin90 for giving me the push to chase and the lovely words as always.

At least I know I’m officially on the waiting list and, even though I’m anticipating a long wait, I’m officially on my way for assisted conception, hooray.

I’ve seen on this board that some people have waited almost two years since their initial referral to been given a treatment date. I’m going to use this long time to start seriously on my diet, well being and mental health.
I need to start with giving up sugar and trying to regulate my periods...!!!

Thank you @eloiseislost I feel better and felt like a horrible person with tunnel vision especially knowing how over stretched the NHS is at the moment. Please do, especially stay safe as you work within the health service, you all do such a wonderful job and i know we(me) like to moan about the wait times for most things on the NHS at least we have the opportunity to receive treatment free at point of use.
Hopefully this month is the one for you, fingers crossed.

Thank you again fir Such kind and encouraging words and I wish all the baby dust to all you wonderful people on this board.

I think I’ve rambled on far too much this early in the morning and as today is the start of my Christmas break, may I take this opportunity to wish you all a Merry Christmas, and lots and lots of baby dust in 2021.

May we all stay safe and sane

@primrosechill

Nothing has really worked for me with vaginismus mainly due the shame and unwillingness to admit I had a problem. I do have an incident as well from when I was 19 that has also affected me and I didn’t really equate the two but I have consulted an online sexual therapist and that was one thing unconsciously contributing to my issues. I have tried, tentatively dilating but tbh I’m really scared when I see the little thing and it’s tiny! But whilst I have such a long wait I’ll be dilating or trying and at least when I eventually get around to using my little syringe, I’ll get more comfortable.
Botox and a vaginismus camp, especially the latter really appeal to me though. Do you have anymore more information on the camp?

Your husband definitely has better results than mine his morphology count is 1 and I suspect that was being generous?!
He also has high white cells due to the inflammation around his varicocele but his gp is so uninterested in it and just shrugs most of it off and say ‘let your wife’s gp refer you as they can recommend things for you, that we can not’.

Hope everything went well in your quest for baby making and baby dust to you and Merry Christmas.

Eeeek @Nej1983 that all sounds a bit rubbish! Are you in the ROI? I dread to think what the situation will be here inEngland when they move us up to Tier 5! Tier 4 feels bad enough. I hope you still have a lovely Christmas despite restrictions.
@Bizawit yes I’m on either 2 or 3dpo as cAnt quite pin point exact day of ovulation this month as I had sharp cramps ongoing across 2 days rather than my usual 1. Christmas is proving a good distraction though and I’m going to try not to symptom spot and drive myself mad this time (inevitably I will crack and start though

@ComebackQueen what brilliant news for you in time for Christmas! You must be so happy
And it’s great you’re seeing any waiting time as an opportunity to sort diet and wellbeing out. Wishing you all the best with it!

@Nej1983 that’s crap ☹️ I saw the announcement live, have links to Ireland so husband visiting his mum will be out for a while longer. We managed to get over in sept thank goodness. I’m hoping tier 5 won’t last too long for you. He did say though re inter county travel that you can travel back to your place of residence after Stephens day, so like my mum in law staying at sil, she can stay beyond 26th. Just in case you’re visiting somewhere or having visitors, you’ll have a bit more leeway 😊
The treatment was really needed, I had 90mins I’d switch off and actively did the mindfulness I’d been practising on my apps.

I did think afterwards about if I had the teeniest chance of being pg but to be honest with how I’m feeling I had to put me and my mental health first. It felt good to be selfish for once!

@ComebackQueen what fantastic news for you, especially this week-what a Christmas present! Well done you for taking this time before it to focus on yourself 😊 delighted for you.

@MrsKin90 did you have your spa day yesterday? If so i hope it was amazing and gorgeous and relaxing 😍

I’ve just been watching bbc news about a couple married for 63 years who have just managed to see each other as the wife is in a care home. Then a care home story which did a surprise family member choir and Christmas message video for the residents. I’m crying loads today, I feel really emotional. If you can see the stories online it’s worth a watch, just lovely and uplifting (and emotional!) xx

@Birchybirch and @ComebackQueen hooray for your referrals being made 😊 it's good to know you're on the path for some help and hopefully the wait isn't too long or you get BFPs whilst you're waiting! I work for the NHS and moan about it all the time 😂 it isn't perfect!

@primrosechill 6dpo already! The next few days will hopefully fly by in a flurry of food and wrapping paper and it'll be almost time to test before you know it! Goodluck with not testing, but no beating yourself up if you give in. You're only human!

@Nej1983 tier 5 😬 what a lovely thing to look forward to over the Christmas period.

@Oilyoilyoilgob I'm glad you enjoyed your massage and had a lovely relaxing time! I did go for my spa day 😊 I don't relax when I have a proper massage because I'm too highly strung, so I had a facial and used the sauna and jacuzzi and had a nice swim. I always get a therapist that wants to talk to me for the whole hour and I'm never brave enough to ask them stfu so it wasn't a mindful time. 😂 And this morning my whole face is one red rash 😱 I know facials bring out blemishes over the few days after you have them, but this is crazy! so I do wonder if I've had some sort of reaction to the sugar scrub.
I'm sure any potential eggo would be fine anyway as they're so protected so don't worry about that! I just made sure to drink lots of water to stay cool and hydrated. 🤷

For everyone in the tww - goodluck and fingers crossed!! 😊 hopefully Christmas provides a good distraction and helps it go quickly.

10dpo for me today. Nothing to report! Other than I am absolutely shattered. That's not tww related, but felt I should share 😂 I slept really well so can only think I had too much of a fun day yesterday and need a day off to recover! 🥱😴

@MrsKin90 I’m so glad you went-but sorry to read about your rash! Have you been using any ahas/glycolic/retinoids/salicylic products? They can make your skin sensitised. Also a good therapist should never talk during a treatment, it’s our clients time, not ours 😉

I’m so so happy that you went for the saunas and a swim, I hope you feel rejuvenated and it’s great you had some time for yourself! Treatments and spa days can cause an energy slump, so keep looking after yourself!

I’m 9dpo, it seems like a lot of us are in sync!

I’ve bought a few alcohol free koppabergs, don’t normally drink cider but I like the odd one to give me a break from cordial and decaf tea.

I’m PRAYING at least one of us gets a 2020 conception 😄🤞🏻

Xx

@Birchybirch

Sorry for prying but my text specifically from my surgery asks me to wait three months before following up. Are you in London by any chance? The discrepancy between even receiving a letter is bemusing.

I don’t know if my surgery are just being overly cautious knowing how stretched the NHS is or that’s genuinely the hospitals wait time for sending out a letter.

Also, so many questions but reading some online reviews on our fertility clinic they don’t get involved in IUI/IVF so is this just an appointment for fact finding and then my GP will then be asked to refer elsewhere?

I read somewhere that someone with vaginismus was referred straight to the imperial trust fertility clinic and didn’t need to go via a local hospital which inevitably delays the process.
Now I’m super confused, note to self, stop bloody googling it.

@ComebackQueen hi, no I'm in Manchester, so maybe it's a bit different up here (ha, isn't it always!?) I hate that though, depending on where you live, depends on the timescales/levels of care people receive. Proper postcode lottery!

The doc did say that normally they didn't want to know until it had been 12m, but for us SI-ers he'd push the referral through now at 6m as we're already having to do things somewhat differently to "normal". Before I mentioned SI he was going to have me booked in for bloods in the next month or two, but that would have been in the surgery, rather than at a specialist fertility clinic.

It could be that I get the letter, and I'm part of a veeeeery long queue as the doctors are referring people too easily, or maybe not. Will see what it says - apparently I'm to phone again if I've not heard by the end of Jan x

Someone has just announced their pregnancy to me and I'm torn between a dead feeling inside and crying my eyes out. I've know this person my whole life and they've told me early and in person because they're lovely and this is their second.
Does anyone have anything inspiringly helpful to say? Maybe I just need to cry it out? I'll definitely feel better about it tomorrow won't I? I currently have a very dramatic "I can't go on" feeling which is very over the top I know 😩

Oh no @MrsKin90 this may not be any consolation but this too shall pass.

Your friend is lovely and just know you’ll be announcing something special soon.

To make you feel better about your friend telling you, here is the complete opposite end.

I don’t have many friends since university I have one friend in the true sense of the word only.

Said friend who was struggling with infertility told me everything and I mean everything about her inability to sustain a pregnancy. I held her hand through three miscarriages and emotionally and financially invested in her. I was silly enough to pay for her to have spa days, massages, got a mutual friend to give her heavily discounted reiki.

Because of the multiple miscarriages she was told by GP she had to do ivf.

When I asked her about a year later how she was progressing with ivf, after her just being really distant with me and no longer meeting up or being how she was - she said she’s not doing ivf and leaving it to God.

I noticed she no longer had snap or IG stories up that I could see, so assumed at our age (very late 30s) she had given up that.
She didn’t want to meet up because she was busy with her family. Also I only had IG because my niece set me up and I am not really too familiar with it besides knowing how to upload a pic.

Something wasn’t adding up so my niece who’s 21 has IG and my friends profile was public, she searches her name and there’s a story, but from my phone it’s nothing.
We view it from hers and it’s nothing besides her showing food but that set off my feeling she’s definitely avoiding me.
My niece the social media stalker that she is, looks at pictures she was tagged into IG and there’s pics of her and a bump at various meet ups and baby showers.

I think said friend must have realised that my niece has seen her story because a few weeks later she texts she’s pregnant and due in a few weeks.

When I tell you the bitterness, resentment and hurt I felt, you’ll never believe.

I still hate her to this day, not because she got her baby but because I was only a friend when I was in the late 30s barren club and once she got her baby, she was finally able to live the life with her other friends as a yummy mummy.