Post Pill TTC – Party Harder

[TheHotelCalifornia]

Roll up, roll up, it’s time for a new thread for the ladies who are experiencing the highs and lows (mainly the lows…) of coming off the pill and TTC! Here you’ll find stories of delayed ovulation, crazy long follicular phases, crazy short follicular phases, light AFs, short luteal phases, long luteal phases, confusing temp charts and blindingly white OPKs, to name a few. This our 4th thread (I think!) and we've had a few ladies get their BFP recently which is so exciting! Join us, won’t you?

Welcome back:

@mintgreenlife
@juno231
@kay00
@sperr
@mrsmacmc
@chinchilly
@curcurbita
@tillybabs
@ams19
@moocher90
@trying4one
@flowerbudd
@pumpkineverything
@tatty1987
@mancmama39
@elsie2021
@danielle2012
@spencer22
@charwils
@ftm94
@lobster8
@musicaljojo

Apologies if I’ve forgotten anyone, please tag them!

@crabette I am pretty sure you count it from the full day of proper flow - so if you do come up today it will be CD1 today. That is what I did this month, ignored the spotting and put CD1 as when the flow was enough to need a pad

@Kay00 @MintGreenLife I also had no idea about dairy. I have fat free Greek yoghurt everyday for breakfast!!! And low fat cheese all the time 🤦‍♀️

@MancMama39 that is an amazing post. Just goes to show doesnt it. And now I bet the 14 months was worth it to have your son! It's like I said before @mintgreenlife right now this all feels totally cruel, unfair and makes no sense. When you hold your little baby in your arms you will be so so glad for all these BFNs, periods and tears because it brought you to your little baby who you will appreciate even more ❤

Thanks @AMS19.

Weirdly, I have nothing this morning, and I did put a pad on just incase last night, and it's bone dry.

Also, my temp is back up to 36.5, after yesterday's crash down to 36.19 🤷🏻‍♀️

I do have a little bit of very light cramping, but wasn't actually expecting AF til Monday or Tuesday, so not quite sure what's going on.

Spotting isn't really normal for me unless it's leading straight into AF.

@crabette it could be an implantation dip with spotting... very possible if you think you're 7/8DPO ??

I had a good night's sleep (for once) and had a decent 4 x hours before I took my temp.

Alarm goes off 6am, my arm pokes out from under the duvet, turns off alarm (I don't move) and picks up thermometer. I shove it in under right side of tongue. 36.16. I then stick it in under left side of tongue 36.27. Best of three I put it back under right side and get 36.28! Thinking my 1st must have been a mis-read I put it back on left and get 36.35! What? So back under right side and get 36.37!! At this point I move... to put all these temps into a note on my phone. I take it one more time and its 36.28 again.... all within 10 mins. Why can't it stay nice and consistent? Which temperature do I use? 😕

Morning ladies. My AF came today so this is cycle 2 and a 28 day cycle as opposed to 34 days last month.

I’ve ordered OPKs to start testing from amazon. They link with the Premom App. I have no idea what I’m doing but will work it out 😂

@AMS19 ah ok you count from the first full flow day? Tbh I think mine will be in full flow day 1 by the looks of it 🙈

Welcome @LauraT94

@MintGreenLife sorry to hear you aren’t feeling too good. It’s pretty crap when people around you are getting pregnant. Keep your head up.

On the plus side, it seems you have pinpointed your issue and can hopefully get treatment for us on the NHS. I have my fingers crossed for you xx

@crabette I had similar. The smallest bit of spotting yesterday and loads of AG cramping and bloatedness. But today nothing. Temp is still up and no AF. I keep waking up and 4-5am which is killing me! At least I managed to get back to sleep today. I'm now 11DPO (per FF, 10DPO on the others) so if she doesn't come today I'm happy with my LP length. Due Tuesday

@Kay00 I swear mine do that. I only take 1 now and go with that otherwise it stressing me out which one to take 😂😂😂

@tillybabs yeah so if you've woken up with it today is likely to be CD1. If you have a small bit of spotting thr night before I dont think you count that as CD1. 28 days is perfect! OPKs are easy with premom. I started doing mine once a day from CD7 but didn't get anything until CD12, peaked CD13 and it was back to zero on CD14!

@MintGreenLife just into my first month 'proper' of trying for no 2... so ready for another 14 months (shorter? longer?) of emotional turmoil. Pushing 40 (next year eeeeeeek). But it will be worth it if we get there!

At least it's Friday all!!!

@MancMama39 I’m also turning 40 next year! I’m 40 in Jan eek 😬😬

I’m not a mum yet myself. I’m on CD2

@AMS19 ah ok. So I better be prepared for no readings then 😕. It’s a good thing they aren’t expensive then

@Kay00 - I never really thought about an implantation dip? I have kind of written myself off this month, feeling light cramps associated with period. But did a quick google and - maybe? See what happens today / tomorrow! I feel like it's more likely AF though, and just possibly my cycles are re-setting to 28 days-ish.

@AMS19 Sounds promising for you?! Would you test before Tuesday if you're 10/11DPO? Hope you don't get AF today, but you're right, at least if you do your luteal is good!

@Tillybabs Yep, get prepped for lots of no readings! 😕 I actually had no readings all cycle - sometimes you can 'miss' a positive if you're only testing once per day. Some folk's readings last a few days, mine are away in a few hours so I'd need to test a couple of times per day to catch it. I think most apps suggest testing from CD10ish through to ovulation. I also try to only take one reading as I find the confusion stressful, I always just go with the first, as in my head the later ones you're becoming more and more awake so must be warming up 😂 No idea how scientific that is!

@crabette I ruled myself out when I got my BFN on Wednesday. I was 9DPO then and used a FRER and there wasn't even a hint of a line. So I think I'm out. I know it was early but would have expected something. But the longer AF holds off the better (but not beyond Wednesday as that will be 28 days 😂😂)

@AMS19 I don't think the dairy thing is a big issue, but generally for fertility full fat dairy is what's recommended. Aww that's so nice. For a few months now I've got myself into a head space where I dearn't even think that getting pregnant/having a baby could even be a reality, I just ca't see it happening, but maybe I need to be more positive and have faith that it will happen.

@Kay00 if you have to retake your temp. I believe it's suggested that you should wait about 5 minutes before retaking, as think the previous temp can influence the temperature of your thermometer, so you need to let it cool back down again, which is probably why you got all the confusing temps. I only ever take mine once and just go from that, apart from on one occasion where I got a super out of whack reading so did have to retake.

@Tillybabs thanks :) I had gone into a bit of a hole, but it's nice to be back on here and get so much support!

@MancMama39 hopefully you will fall quickly this time around :)

@MintGreenLife Ahh! I didn't know that! Thanks. I'll take that into consideration tomorrow then haha! If my temp was really 36.16 then that's below my cover line, so I assume that means AF is on her way

Thanks @MintGreenLife I'll definitely keep that in mind for next cycle. And I totally get why you feel deflated but I do think it will happen for you, just might take a bit longer. Keep doing all you can, you're doing amazing!

@crabette ok thanks for the tips. Do you tend to do your reading later in the day or morning?

I’ve started taking vitamins including coenzyme 10. Not sure if anyone else has heard of that one.

@Kay00 how many DPO are you?

Thanks @AMS19 that's really sweet :) I guess it can just be upsetting when you've thrown everything at it and it's not made an ounce of difference, but I suppose without me doing everything I've done I wouldn't have discovered the issue with my thyroid and may have carried on trying for ages none the wiser, so it's good I've figured this out and can hopefully move forward with it all x

@AMS19 I'm never sure how the FRER tests work - are they not only like 60% effective or something? I'm sure I read that if you get a negative and AF is late you should test again. I know once you've ruled yourself out mentally though you maybe just know yourself, I'm feeling very much like I'm out too.

@Tillybabs I think you're supposed to do afternoon? Meant to be somewhere between 2pm and 8pm I think. So this month I'm going to try and do 2pm, 5pm, 8pm, on days I think it's close. Will need to be drinking tons of water 😂

@MintGreenLife nice to see you back! I've been down as well lately, and finding TTC a bit pointless. It doesn't help that my friend is due next week and started TTC after me :( I'm happy for her but it keeps reminding me of how crap it's gone for me TTC wise in comparison. This is her second baby and I always envisaged us being on mat leave together for the first one (OH wasn't on board with TTC back then) and now I've missed the boat for this one too. Sigh.

CD11 or 9 today. Nothing happening just yet but I haven't been paying much attention to things. Attaching my chart just for the fun of it :)

@crabette this is from Amazon:

In laboratory testing, First Response Early Results Pregnancy Test detected hormone levels consistent with pregnancy in 76% of women 6 days before the day of missed period, in 96% of women 5 days before the day of missed period, and in >99% of women 4 or fewer days before the day of missed period.

I was 9DPO on Wednesday when I tested. AF due next Wednesday. So maybe it was a little early? Tbh, I feel like I'm out. I'm definitely expecting AF to arrive any moment, I feel pretty rubbish today. Almost hungover but haven't drunk anything. So think it is all PMS related! When I saw the spotting yesterday I think she had arrived then but has held off for now

My temp dipped again today so I am probably out too! No AF yet but yest did get a spot of EwCm with one spot of tinged blood in it but didn’t look fresh more light brown colour. No Ewcm today and my cm is more lotiony. Not sure what is going on tbh but just be thankful for a decent period now.

@crabette sorry AF due Tuesday not Wednesday!

@Juno231 sorry to hear you're feeling down as well. That's really tough about your friend. I had similar thoughts with my SIL, especially as we are moving to be closer to them. You never know, both you and I may still have small children at the same time as your friend/my SIL. Sounds like you're probably in a similar headspace to me, as DTD feels fairly pointless at the mo and I just can't invisage this happening for us.

I've attached my chart too, also just for the fun of it ☺️ I'm starting to feel like maybe I have actually fallen into a more regular cycle post pill, and that the late ovulation and short LP is my 'regular' cycle, caused by my thyroid issue, as last cycle I ovulated on CD25 and started getting daily EWCM around the same time. So am hoping I will ovulate in the next few days. We haven't been great at DTD so far this cycle, but with my super late ovulation starting anywhere before CD20 seems pointless anyway! X