Post Pill TTC Party

[TheDaydreamBelievers]

Come one, come all ! A thread for those TTC after coming off hormonal contraceptive pills.

Discussions typically include:

• Baffling temp charts
• Absent or oddly timed EWCM
• Whacky cycle lengths
• AF gone AWOL (current high score is 141 days post pill)

@PumpkinEverything I don't want to ruin anything but I have heard about seven seas prolonging cycles. I came off it after a few weeks after reading the this. Of course it doesn't happen to everyone. I have read you are better off taking the tablets separately, so I take folic acid and vitamin separately. I notice a lot of prenatal vitamins have iron in so wonder if it is that that plays havoc with the cycles, though don't quote me on that 🤣
I have been with my husband nearly 11 years, 3 of them married. We decided to go on one last big holiday (before kids) to Thailand in October 2019 and then wait 6 month's after due to Zika. We had booked a holiday in Europe this year to be Zika safe (which of course didn't happen). I think we put the kids of death of additional holidays before kids by saying one last big holiday 🙈🤣. We only started trying in August due to monitoring the COVID situation. Currently 5dpo and trying to hold off for another week before I take a test

@PumpkinEverything woohoo! Congrats on your ovulation. you still have time to get DTD... you will likely ovulate today or tomorrow .

I'm on CD11 and all pretty quiet on my front... I have stopped taking my B-Complex in the hope that I will ovulate within the next week. It worked last month, so fingers crossed!

@Trying4one - hold in there, exciting that your in your TWW though!!

We were very lucky as we managed to go on holiday to New York in February, just before Coronavirus got really bad. I was planning a year on fun holidays (with the intention of TTC towards the end of this year). Now i'm just praying the list the lockdown in Swansea so I can go on holiday in the Gower later this month...

*they lift the lockdown.

@Trying4one ah! It’s so frustrating. I’m vegetarian so I’ve always taken a multivitamin anyway, but they mentioned on the label not to take whilst pregnant so I thought I would swap to something more suitable. What are you taking at the moment?
Baby dust to you for this month! I’m going to need to find something to distract myself during the wait otherwise I’ll be too tempted to test

@Kay00 fingers crossed for you 🤞 I had a week away in Snowdonia a few weeks ago. It was a nice break away but I am seriously missing a holiday by a pool in a hot country.
I have no idea where this year has gone and I feel like I have barely done or achieved anything 🤷 here we are approaching Christmas again (which due to COVID will also be uneventful)

@Kay00 I took a screenshot of your vitamins last night haha. So I can give them a try if needs be. Do you start taking them again immediately after you ovulate, or when will you restart again?
So frustrating with the lockdown! We managed a sneaky trip to sorrento a month ago that I booked very last minute. I was so thankful for a break and some sun! We’re due to go to Donegal from NI in two weeks time for our first wedding anniversary and they’re currently in a local lockdown so I feel your pain of waiting!

@PumpkinEverything I take vitabiotics folic acid and nutribioticals vitamin d3 (both bought from Amazon after checking reviews). I think it works out cheaper buying them individually as well as the price goes up if you mention it is pregnancy related 🙄
I am working in the week but thinking of doing cross stitch again at the weekend to give me something to do in this terrible weather 😂

@PumpkinEverything I know I wish they would make people aware of the potential problems of taking the pill instead of just making the main focus of preventing pregnancy! Sounds good about getting the peak, there is still time though!

@Trying4one also in the TWW over here 7DPO not lot going to be honest, a few AF type cramps yesterday but nothing other than that, going to try hold off on testing until AF is due.

We haven’t managed to get away at all this year & probably won’t for a while with COVID and being in a local lockdown!

Hi girls! My two cents is that I think it's the vit Bs in the multi vits that tend to extend cycles. But I keep getting the impression that it's extending the LP to ladies who tend to have quite short ones, so maybe not a bad thing overall?

I'm 14DPO and no AF yet but my temp dropped to the coverline today. My LP was 11 days last cycle so it's a bit frustrating that it keeps changing month on month - FF always tells me off for having an irregular LP!

Hello again ladies,
I posted on here the other day and @MintGreenLife kindly gave me some feedback when I was getting confused about ovulation days.
This is today, first time I have seen a peak but my temp has gone up slightly today and dropped yest - shouldn't I of been expecting it to go down today? Does this mean that ovulation day is today or tomorrow? Tried googling but getting confused when it says you will get a peak a certain amount of time before actual ovulation?
Any decoding and advice on DTD timing (we did yesterday) will be much appreciated?
Also I promise to try and keep up on here more with everyone else's stuff as aware I have only asked questions so far! x

Would help if I posted the pics!

@Juno231 I think it mainly those with short cycles though I have seen a few wen complain that their 30 day cycle was extended to over 40 and that was enough to scare me 😂 of course plenty of women have no issues at all with them.
Oh no so you don't know when AF is due?
@Sarahp2308 not a lot going on here eithere. Felt a few twinges yesterday and had a metallic taste earlier on this week but just ignoring them as I know if is too early for pregnancy symptoms. Don't want to get my hopes up. I plan on testing on 11/12dpo and if nothing then I will wait to see if AF shows up on 14dpo (cd28)

@Juno231 I think you are right... its the B-Vitamins that extend the cycle. I was having a really long follicular phase followed by a short luteal phase. The B Vits can extend everything (Including ovulation) so I stop taking them CD10+ until I ovulate (and this helped bring ovulation forward) then take them again from day fater ovulation to extend luteal phase - and it worked.

@PumpkinEverything I would advise getting Vit B6 100mg + Vit B12 500ug but maybe try to get a B-complex without the Vit-C. It seems to have a lot of Vit C (which dyes my week a luminous orange - haha!) but I don't need any extra Vit C as I eat lots of fruit and I read somewhere that too much Vit C can make your uterus too acidic for implantation. So I have bought a different B-Complex for the TWW that excludes Vit C. Complicated I know... but they do seem to be very successful in extending my LP!

@CharWils Looks like you bare having your peak today - I imagine if you keep testing today then your OPKS will get darker throughout the day. So you will likely ovulate tonight or tomorrow. Get DTD if you can!!

@CharWils how much did your temp go up by? You don't have to have a dip for ovulation, I've seen plenty of charts where OD was on an upward curve - so long as there's a bigger rise the following day.

@Kay00 @Juno231

Thanks both, it only went up by .20 odd today but it could mean that it will go up more tomorrow?

Where I haven't seen a peak yet apart from today it's all very new!

How would I know which day to mark on my chart as ovulation day today or tomorrow? Is there a key thing that will tell?

@Trying4one I’m trying not to symptom spot, it is hard though! I’m really trying to put it to the back of my mind for now because sometimes I think I imagine symptoms 🤣

I have just tested again now and it's gone back down again

Can that happen within the space of a hour?

Welcome @PumpkinEverything glad to see you've joined in and found the thread helpful so far :) this is our second one, and looks like we won't be far off needing to set up a third thread as we are at almost 800 messages already!

@CharWils what app do you use to record your chart? Your app should add your crosshairs/coverline once you've had three higher temps. Like other's have said above, as you've got your peak today you should ovulate in the next 12-24 hours, I think sometimes the guidelines are 12-36 hours though, so any time between today and the next day or so. Exciting!

I'm CD23 now, FF has left my crosshairs in on CD16 for ovulation, but I'm still getting EWCM...just like last cycle urgh. My OPKs aren't really getting any darker. I had sharp twinges in my lower left side at 8pm last night, so I thought I may have ovulated, but my temp only went up a tiny bit and more EWCM this morn. Wish I knew what all my EWCM means!

@Juno231 how does it feel to be moved out? Have you had to move out your place because of renting it out? Guessing your purchase hasn't gone through quite yet then? If so hope it doesn't take too much longer! x

@CharWils yeah I think so, although maybe your pee was are diluted this time? I think that's helpful in a way as you know your peak was today, so should ovulate later today or tomorrow :)

Thanks @MintGreenLife helpful as always

Maybe however I know they say to leave it 4 hours between each test, but I drink about 4.5 litres of water a day so wanted to try again before it gets too diluted!

Will temp and test again tomorrow and see what it's saying then.

I use femometer, cover line for last cycle was 36.4 but it doesn't show one for this one yest as temps have been all over the place so far.

Temps were really easy to see a pattern last month, saw a clear drop in temp and then rise around cd20 but only got to see a high of 53% on opk. I tried backdating on FF like you suggested but still find this one much more user friendly so will try and stick with this for now.

This is also CD23 for me after 2 periods (I think unless one was a very late withdrawal bleed) coming off the pill. How long have you been of for and have you seen peaks previously?

There are so many things to think about aren't there, never would of gone on the pill if I knew all of this! X

@CharWils no probs :) in my experience a coverline isn't added until you have three higher temps, so hopefully it will be added in the next few days.

I've been off the pill six months now. I've only had one actual positive OPK in all that time, and a few darker ones but not quite positives, but some cycles I gave up testing about half way through as gets you down when it's endless negatives. Urgh me too - I firmly believe the pill royally messed me up. I developed IBS on it, and the pill is linked to IBS and other gut issues, and I think my IBS is most likely why my cycle hasn't recovered. After chatting to a few others about it I've decided to cut out dairy, gluten, sugar and alcohol for three months to try and let my body heal, am taking Agnus Castus too, praying it helps as am not going to enjoy these next few months which such a boring diet ha x

@CharWils FF would populate the chart with OD for you - I wouldn't trust the femometer one though for what it's worth! Let's see your chart in the next few days and it should hopefully be clear what day you ovulated. I assume your reading went down because you only had a 1 h hold btw.

@MintGreenLife it's a bit stressful being moved out yet not in our home tbh - as everything is either in storage or fairly inaccessible (/I have no clue where things are!) as we're tight for space at FILs. I think I'll feel better after the weekend when I'll have had time to sort my stuff out a bit more. We complete on the 30th this month but decided that if we found a tenant that wanted to move in earlier we'd go for it as at the time we were getting worried our move might coincide with another lockdown, and that we'd end up with an empty flat and two mortgages to pay. So we'd rather be safe than sorry!

I'm really sorry you're still getting EWCM/unclear OPKs. It sounds super frustrating. Is going private an option? I feel like you'd just need something like Letrozole to get your ovulation going and you got be knocked up in no time!

@Sarahp2308 I think my body is playing mind tricks on me 😂