The 2ww Symptom Spotting continues....

[Bucky2007]

Hey girls as we are about to get thrown out of our thread I have started a new one so we can continue manically looking for EWCM, sore (.)(.)s and orange feet whilst chanting 'in with love, out with BFNs'.

Come on over/in

bucky if you can read this...you should be resting your eyes!! I too am blind as a bat, but I wear contact lenses as my eyesight is so bad I need NASA technology to make frames thin enough to fit into a pair of normal frames. so I'm going without until i can afford them.

Where do you live? I'm going to send a trained monkey round so you can dictate (from your chaise longue like Barbara Cartland) as it types onto MN for you.

dg I understand what addicts feel now...despite having to screw my entire face up to see one word at a time, I am still peeking at MN. My glasses don't come for a week...don't know what I am going to do. I should have gone to specsavers . Hopefully after a weeekend of not reading/using the computer they will be a bit more rested. YEAH RIGHT

Let's hope they don't get posted back to the optician because then I really am b*ggered.

Bucky you shouldn't be on here you are damaging your eyes [finger pointing emoticon] hehehehe I know how it feels I too am practically blind but am the same as DG and wear contact lenses for the very same reason. Yet I still stumble downstairs in the morning to take a look at MN without my lenses in with my face practically on the screen.

DG you and I can obviously read minds I too am praying that AF has gone for a good while. Although I did give myself a telling off this morning. I had a dream last night that I went to the scan and was told that there was a little bud in there. I had to have stearn words with myself because I have pretty much convinced myself that by some miracle I must be PG but I will only be dissapointed when I get there and there is no little bud. I mean I did miss the boat with the BD'ing around Ov, I got DP two days before ovulation (the time I cried coz he asked if we were done yet) and once a day after Ov. Also I have had an AF all be it a short stay and I have absolutely no symptoms.

Be prepared ladies I will be wallowing on here on Tuesday night when the Doc confirms that there is no pregnancy.

At least you'll know one way or another pixie but I wish you lots of luck for Tuesday. Are they looking for anything in particular with the scan, or is it because your last cycle was so long?

We'll be here, Pixie and we'll have the hollow ready for you to wallow. That's what we're here for.

My AF has finished early too, Cycle Buddy! Now feeling some strange cosmic link with you and am treating it as a good sign for a November BFP for both of us!

DG I had loads of those symptoms this month too. I really hope you're pg, but I don't know if you are. Do you also feel like you're going mad like I did before AF came? DH had to tell me to calm the f**k down, as his hints weren't working He loves me really, but it was driving him mad watching me tie myself in knots. Am sitting on my hands until the weekend around him now.

The scan is to check that the endo hasn't spread to my ovaries causing chocolates cysts (which could stop me ovulating from one of my ovaries) and to see if there is evidence of Adnemyosis, my new consultant is skeptical about me having it as its normally found in post menopausal women apparently.

Thanks for the support guys I know I'm setting myself up for a fall but I'm in the desperatly clinging to any hope corner.

Excitable I think you and I must have a connection if both of our AF's have stopped early. Its great having a cycle buddy, hopfully we'll get that BFP in Novemeber together and then we can moan about our PG symptoms together on the ante natal threads (not that we'd be moaning much as we will be so pleased) x

DG am still hoping for you (and praying and keeping everything crossed)

Pixie - would it help if you took us all in your pocket with you to your scan like hogwarts did when she went to the doctors? We'll hold your hand too if you just put it in your pocket!

We'll all be thinking about you on Tuesday now.

Ahh thank you I think I may well just do that. Thats a really good idea . Poor Hogwarts I haven't looked at her thread for a little while last I heard she re arranged the scan.

Hi all, I hve been having withdrawal symptoms again, this time because I couldn't get to a computer for a couple of days!!
I need my daily MN fix!!

Well I told you I was having cramps, they got quite bad today, not majorly but enough to want to take a paracetamol.
It was just on my right hand side though.
You guys have talked about ovulation pains being in one particular side?
I am on CD21 though
Although, DG you ovulated about this time, didn't you?

Have to go buy a decent opk now, cos I am just so unsure.
Have sent DH away though. He was in the pub, meant to be for a quick pint, 2 hours later and I send him a text saying DH!
He comes home to tell me how two girls (women, married ones with children, granted) have been fawning over him all night. I am on here, so he will just go back, yeah?
NO!
I sent him back in the end cos I didn't want to be around him, but he is being selfish right?
I never get to go out (don't like the pub in question, or those who frequent it) but it is ok for him to spend his Friday nights there?? chatting up women??
Cos the little wife is at home babysitting whilst he has a larf?

DG I'm up early cos wanted to see whether you'd tested yet or not!!!! Have everything crossed for you right at the mo (although may pop back to bed for a bit as is my day off and am really rather tired).

Like most of you, I too am blind as a bat! Tried the whole contacts thing but just don't get on with them (apparently my eyes have an 'odd' prescription so you can't get contacts that match it so will always be a bit blurry

Fairy sounds very much like DH is being a bit unreasonable - I've got nothing against my DH admiring other women but to go back to somewhere so he can flirt more not sure I'd be all that keen on that.

Agree with what people said on the Oct thread - you should take some time for yourself.

Oh, and yes, it is entirely possible that you could be ov'ing on cd21 - the pains sound about right!

Right, have waffled, am back off to bed now (have really bad af cramps although am only on cd28 and don't think af is due just yet). Have to admit to being very unrestrained and got a bfn last night. Unsurprising really as only 11dpo .

Fairysnuff I had to come onto this thread to see your why you were I have to say if that were my DH I would have been livid. I have a really insecure streak so probably would have been tearing my hair out. I hope he has thoughts about it today and treats you like a princess to make up.

I'm glad to have found this thread though, may I join you here as I'm just in the 2 WW.

Of Course you may join us here, all are welcome

Funnily enough, I was not too bothered by the flirting, DH just loves to do it and can't beleve that it is happening to him. He seems to think himself average looking, so is surprsed when he is flirted with.
He always tells me though cos he is so excited.

Once he realised that I was mad, he wanted to do the right thing and stay home, but I felt I was stopping his fun so he could sit and watch me type, so sent him back, but with a flea in his ear.

He didn't come home until 1 am and slept on the couch!!
Said it was so his snoring wouldn't wake me. Prob right enough, I would have been angry by his boozy fumes anyway!

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I'm sorry ladies...BFN.

So rather than thinking, 'oh okay, hurry up AF so we can try again next month' I'm thinking 'hmm, maybe all that EWCM was me ACTUALLY ovulating...maybe the on the opk two weeks ago picked up a LH surge that never actually produced an egg...maybe dh's swimmers from tuesday night will have lasted through to thursday's actual egg hatching'

maybe i'm completely crazy. but we certainly didn't conceive anything two weeks ago coz it would be a bfp by now wouldn't it?

this will sink in. i will be sad for a few hours. then i will try and get on with the weekend.

FS i don't know what I'd think of my DH if he was in the pub flirting when I was ovulating. I'd find it very hard not to be , start a row and sulk for the whole weekend, thus ensuring no bd'ing got done. I hope he does his very best to make it up to you!

picknmix hope your cramps aren't to do with TEW

shreksmissus good luck, hope AF doens't show up for you!

Morning, still blind as a bat here, but resting eyes does seem to have helped as I can go about 10-15mins without it becoming blurry/double now. I am soo proud at my restraint yesterday although a little mortified that I had to take a sickie from work over something so pathetic. You don't realise how much you need your eyes until they go all broken

Anyway, to the important stuff...dg , it seems so weird. You really have a handle on how everything works and those CBD OPKs are 99% accurate so you definitely had a surge at CD21. It would be a bit weird if no egg was despatched at the same time. Maybe the swimmers just didn't attach? They don't always. Mine haven't! Unfortunately we can't project manage the programme on this one..when its ready to happen it will I guess. I am still sure you won't be waiting long though, but that doesn't stop it being fustrating. Besides, it could still be too early for your BFP, some people don't get one for months! So all is not lost till TEW turns up.

Fairysnuff, my DP only wishes he had a DH like you. I don't know if I would ever be so reasonable. I would add though that your approach is the best, because there is nothing more likely to make a man do something he shouldn't than turning into a complete biatch like I would.

Hello to everyone else, I had wondered where you all got to

DG really sorry to hear about the bfn, but its still not over yet - need I mention the 'may be clutching at straws' thread from a few months ago?

Flippin hormones, eh? I'm sure there should be a much easier way of doing all this rather than having the agony of a 2ww each month. Have to say I'm finding taking my temps quite therapeutic as it gives me something proactive to do each morning and has shown that my body appears to be working ok.

Bucky pleased to hear the resting of your eyes seems to help a little

Right am off shopping in Brighton now - wish me well as I prepare to do battle with the saturday crowds!!!!

bucky glad the rest did you some good
If AF turns up in the next few days I will know that we just didn't get the egg (despite lots of bd'ing), be pleased that I actually produced an egg and be pleased that my cycle is shorter than last time.

Until then, though, I'm still toying with the idea (just posted a new thread about it) that my EWCM all this week was the real egg-hatching. In which case, will have to wait ANOTHER two weeks for AF/testing time...which means my cycles are definitely getting longer making it less likely that i'm producing good eggs.

This TTC is so confusing, I wish i was one of those ladies who had a 28-30 day cycle and wasn't made to hang arond like a twat for 7 weeks only to get AF at the end of it.

I know I should go to the doc, but everytime I book an appointment something happens to make me feel stupid for going (like AF turns up), so I cancel.

digitalgirl if you get to CD40 this time, I would go to the docs! You never know they might say something your not expecting?

Well I am now 4dpo, just have the growing tits I had last month and they are a bit tender, but obviously as I had this last month I would say it is not a symptom. Still early days though. Two weeks IS ages...when you are waiting. Another 9 days to go....arrghhhhhhh.

Wish I was going shopping in Brighton PicknMix its Watford for me...not very glamourous!

yep, will also be dragging DH along to docs too.

Just remembered I've got a full body massage booked tomorrow . Which is what i had two days before AF arrived last time. Hopefully it'll bring it on again.

2 weeks IS a long time.

Very quick post... will read the rest of the posts later just wanted to say sorry to hear about your BFN DG it could could still be too early to test they say you should get an accurate result by 18 DPO sooo if AF hasn't arrived by next Saturday then I think you should do another HPT then. Hope you don't feel too crappy as until AF shows her face then there are soooo many if's but's and could be's. Big

PS keep BDing x

thanks pixie I'm off out tonight, might have a glass of champers to see my friend off (she's emigrating) but still hoping.

got metal mouth, my body is playing a cruel trick on me this week. brown cm last friday, 48hr bug on monday, disappearing cervix ewcm, sore nips, ewcm (again), reappearing cervix, now metal mouth.

I'm ignoring all cramps I've had/am having, as I had loads of cramps last cycle which meant nothing.

Just popped on for a quick flick through, DG so to hear it was a BFN - as others have said it may not be a definite no yet, lets hope.

Well, yesterday morning there still was no sign of AF, so rushed and got a test, feeling quite hopeful. However that was a BFN, and now AF started this morning. Have had to accept that bigger boobs, tingling nipples, nausea etc really do mean very little in my case. Felt a bit miserable, but on to the next cycle i suppose! Have heard talk of EPO, pineapple juice etc being benefical - i need to read up on why, but want to try everything i can. May go for OPKs this month as well, although i have come on more or less at the right time, which probably means that we did it at the right time, but that it just didn't work!

Sorry to be whingy (sp?) today, hope everyone else is ok - lets hope someone gets some good news soon!!

Hey Madoldbird you are not whingey! Nothing compared to me, I am having a crisis today. It has occurred to me recently that without drinking, which I am trying not to do obviously I have NO interests or hobbies. All my socialising included drinking, networking, meeting the girls for shopping and wine, drinks after work, going to the pub with DP and out for dinner with wine. Now I am ttc and trying not to drink I am a social pariah and its really getting me down. My friends have stopped calling because they know if we go out they will all be glugging the wine and I will be there with my sparkling water, and they don't know I am ttc so it makes it worse. I can't tell them, I've moved around alot in my life, I have never lived anywhere for more than five years, so I don't have many close friends. The ones I do have are spread out all over the place, like Miami! The friends I have now are not the kind of friends I would tell something so personal to! Anyway, sorry to bend everyone's ear, I just feel pathetic today.

I would take up a hobbie but all the things I can think of that I would like to try are not really ttc friendly, like horseriding, climbing, spinning and running seriously. I went to watch the rugby last night and succumbed to three G&Ts so I feel pretty pants about that too . Really sorry everyone, I don't mean to be so down in the mouth, just feel really sad . I am really of DP as well as he has loads of friends now because of his motorbike. Geez I better stop before I go on all day...What will I be like when pg!!